[tcollier91]

Can someone link me the specific redline fluid that is recommended?

[K8_M235i]

Originally Posted by tcollier91

Can someone link me the specific redline fluid that is recommended?

https://www.bimmerworld.com/Red-Line...uid-Quart.html

[tgmsocal]

I spoke with Rogue today regarding what would be needed for another group buy. They said minimum 10 orders to make it worth it.

Please send me a PM if you are interested in getting another group buy going (aka, you're interested in buying one of these SSKs). I know it will take a bit to put together but I'm bummed I missed out on this (I actually bought my car just after all this went through).

[lkynes23]

Originally Posted by tgmsocal

I spoke with Rogue today regarding what would be needed for another group buy. They said minimum 10 orders to make it worth it.

Please send me a PM if you are interested in getting another group buy going (aka, you're interested in buying one of these SSKs). I know it will take a bit to put together but I'm bummed I missed out on this (I actually bought my car just after all this went through).

I'm in for the next group buy on the short shifter.

Ever since putting one in on my E39 540i, the 228i has felt like a rowing machine.

[Tomskeed]

I just installed the short shifter and transmission mounts on my M235i. It went pretty smoothly, although that internal rubber boot is a pain. I managed to do it without removing any exhaust hangers (other than the hanger on the transmission mount).

Does anyone using the short shifter have the M Performance knob and alcantara boot? With there being less slack in the boot, the base plate for the boot pops out whenever I shift into Reverse. I figured I would see if anyone had a fix before seeing what I can do to free up some slack in the boot. Other than that, the shifts are MUCH shorter and more direct!

[K8_M235i]

Originally Posted by Tomskeed

I just installed the short shifter and transmission mounts on my M235i. It went pretty smoothly, although that internal rubber boot is a pain. I managed to do it without removing any exhaust hangers (other than the hanger on the transmission mount).

Does anyone using the short shifter have the M Performance knob and alcantara boot? With there being less slack in the boot, the base plate for the boot pops out whenever I shift into Reverse. I figured I would see if anyone had a fix before seeing what I can do to free up some slack in the boot. Other than that, the shifts are MUCH shorted and more direct.

The internal rubber boot is an absolute pain. It's much much easier the second time you do one. I would make sure the knob is seated all the way. At one point I had this combo and I didn't have any issues.

[MLJR235]

Originally Posted by Tomskeed

I just installed the short shifter and transmission mounts on my M235i. It went pretty smoothly, although that internal rubber boot is a pain. I managed to do it without removing any exhaust hangers (other than the hanger on the transmission mount).

Does anyone using the short shifter have the M Performance knob and alcantara boot? With there being less slack in the boot, the base plate for the boot pops out whenever I shift into Reverse. I figured I would see if anyone had a fix before seeing what I can do to free up some slack in the boot. Other than that, the shifts are MUCH shorter and more direct!

To add to what K8 said and add a suggestion. Try your new ssk with the oem knob, if you still have it.

I had the M Perf "short" knob+ Rogue SSK and I found that the OEM knob was best performer for everyday driving.

Call me crazy but the shorter m perf. knob seemed to require more force. I assume that is due to it being physically shorter hence you have less leverage vs the longer stock one??

[Tomskeed]

Originally Posted by MLJR235

To add to what K8 said and add a suggestion. Try your new ssk with the oem knob, if you still have it.

I had the M Perf "short" knob+ Rogue SSK and I found that the OEM knob was best performer for everyday driving.

Call me crazy but the shorter m perf. knob seemed to require more force. I assume that is due to it being physically shorter hence you have less leverage vs the longer stock one??

It's definitely seated right against the larger portion of the shifter arm; I might remove the screw securing the arm to the lever, and see if it will slide down a bit.

I was going to swap back to the factory knob to see if it had the same issue, but I like the M Performance knob and boot a lot!

[MLJR235]

Originally Posted by Tomskeed

It's definitely seated right against the larger portion of the shifter arm; I might remove the screw securing the arm to the lever, and see if it will slide down a bit.

I was going to swap back to the factory knob to see if it had the same issue, but I like the M Performance knob and boot a lot!

I reread what you said and while the boot did stretch when I had it, it never popped off. Not sure I can provide any further assistance or ideas other than you're sure the "S" bend on the actual shifting mechanism was not reversed. I know it has to go in a very particular way but I doubt you wouldn't notice if it was wrong. I mean it would probably seat all wonky and off center or something ... Wish I could be more help

[Tomskeed]

Originally Posted by MLJR235

I reread what you said and while the boot did stretch when I had it, it never popped off. Not sure I can provide any further assistance or ideas other than you're sure the "S" bend on the actual shifting mechanism was not reversed. I know it has to go in a very particular way but I doubt you wouldn't notice if it was wrong. I mean it would probably seat all wonky and off center or something ... Wish I could be more help

That was my first though, but the S bend is in the same configuration as the stock shifter (with the top portion of the shifter moving towards the back of the car). If it were reversed, it would make the issue more severe.

No worries! I appreciate input from others with the same product. I have a few things I'm going to try to correct it this weekend.

[sauceonside]

So my car is at a trusted BMW shop in Massachusetts right now having this installed. They just called and said there's a problem:

The entire shifter is leaning to the upper right in a way they say can't possibly be right, and is popping out the stock shifter boot out in 5th gear.

They suspect the wrong part was provided for the M240i that I have and requested, and are reaching out to Rogue now... Any ideas?

[Tomskeed]

Originally Posted by sauceonside

So my car is at a trusted BMW shop in Massachusetts right now having this installed. They just called and said there's a problem:

The entire shifter is leaning to the upper right in a way they say can't possibly be right, and is popping out the stock shifter boot out in 5th gear.

They suspect the wrong part was provided for the M240i that I have and requested, and are reaching out to Rogue now... Any ideas?

Hmm, I was wondering if this was the case for my M235i as well. After installing it over the weekend, it has noticeably moved forward (when it is in the even gears, it's basically even with where neutral used to be), causing the base of the shifter boot to pop out whenever I go into reverse. That being said, it's still not far enough forward in the odd gears for it to be outside the realm of possibility when changing the length of the shifts. I was looking at some options to correct it this weekend before chalking it up to potential manufacturer defect from it being a semi-custom component.

[sauceonside]

Originally Posted by Tomskeed

Hmm, I was wondering if this was the case for my M235i as well. After installing it over the weekend, it has noticeably moved forward (when it is in the even gears, it's basically even with where neutral used to be), causing the base of the shifter boot to pop out whenever I go into reverse. That being said, it's still not far enough forward in the odd gears for it to be outside the realm of possibility when changing the length of the shifts. I was looking at some options to correct it this weekend before chalking it up to potential manufacturer defect from it being a semi-custom component.

Agreed. Definitely sounds like we got bad parts. Just lost a couple hours in labor to put back the original one in, so I'm already down $250+ to accomplish nothing.

Rogue advised the shop to attempt to bend the carrier into a better position. They attempted with their press said it wouldn't budge, as it's a solid steel part that would require a very precise bend under extreme force. They don't want to torch it and have it become unusable or lose rigidity as well. Waiting to hear back from Rogue on this.

tl;dr: sounds like multiple of these are defective, and anyone who hasn't yet installed should approach with caution.

[K8_M235i]

@sauceonside Which shop did you go to in mass? I'm in Boston.

This is the first time I've heard of an issue with 20+ kits. Rogue stands by their products and will take care of you.

[sauceonside]

Originally Posted by K8_M235i

@sauceonside Which shop did you go to in mass? I'm in Boston.

This is the first time I've heard of an issue with 20+ kits. Rogue stands by their products and will take care of you.

Will send PM. Thanks K8!

[XutvJet]

Ahh, the joys of aftermarket parts. Stuff rarely fits right. I have read about fitment issues and excessive NVH with these shifters on the M2 forums.

[Sportstick]

Unfortunate...mine went in easily and seems to spec in all ways. No issues.

[K8_M235i]

Originally Posted by XutvJet

Ahh, the joys of aftermarket parts. Stuff rarely fits right. I have read about fitment issues and excessive NVH with these shifters on the M2 forums.

An issue with a kit fitting is very unusual, and it will be taken care of.

The Rogue shifters are designed to be just like an oem shifter construction wise. They shouldn't add any significant nvh if everything is done correctly. One main cause of nvh with bmw shifters regardless if stock or aftermarket is over tightening the trans mounts. They don't need much at all.

[WolfGTI]

I was on the first batch of these SSKs for the M240i - my shifter installed like it was there from factory, zero forcing or other issues, basically remove stock shifter and replace with the Rogue engineering shifter, it shifts smoothly and accurately. I am sure Rogue will sort it out as they are a quality operation.

[deathking]

Anyone install without issue from this recent batch? Was planning to bring to my mechanic this weekend and don't want to waste their time.

[Tomskeed]

Originally Posted by deathking

Anyone install without issue from this recent batch? Was planning to bring to my mechanic this weekend and don't want to waste their time.

The only issue I'm having is that the shifter seems to be slightly more forward than it should be. It drives and shifts well, but the base plate of my shift boot pops out if I put it in reverse.

I'm in communication with Rogue to see if they know what it could be. I wanted to confirm the correct orientation of the s bend in the lever arm, and exhaust all possible options before chalking it up to manufacturer defect. Even if that happens to be the case, that's the risk we run on custom products like this and I'm sure they'll make it right if it comes down to that!

[MLJR235]

This is quite the turn out of events.. You guys are all sure the shops are using all the new parts from Rogue right? They gave you back your old carrier and shifters?

Just throwing it out there as I know anything is possible. I wouldn't put it past a shop to just throw in the new shifter into an old carrier to save time because they look the same...Anyway, it would be a good idea to have them make sure the locking cup is correctly seated too.

I have had zero issues with fitment or function either but the location does move slightly vs stock resting location. If I remember right, it serves as en ergonomic placement.