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      07-29-2019, 07:12 AM   #1
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HK sounds terrible help

Hey guys I just switched to a 2016 m235i from a 2013 335i.

The HK Logic 7 in the 335 was the best car stereo I have ever heard. I have analytical ears too.

The HK in the 235 sounds like garbage. Is this normal and is there anything I can do to make it sound more like the Logic 7 system?

I find the highs and bass too pronounced and the mids to be completely absent. The sound staging was also clearer on the 335's system too.

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Search is your friend - this thread contains everything you could want to know about upgrading the system.

https://www.2addicts.com/forums/show....php?t=1236238
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Search is your friend - this thread contains everything you could want to know about upgrading the system.

https://www.2addicts.com/forums/show....php?t=1236238
So my 335m had the Logic 7 system which I took to mean a processing algorithm that made the music sound really good on the hardware they picked out and implemented in the vehicle.

It appears in the m235 that there is no brand name processing engine. Is there anyway to make the system sound better other than just buying more expensive speakers?

Does anyone know the DAC chip or chips doing the Digital 2 Analog conversion in our cars?

Also is the blue tooth current revision with the Aptx for higher bit rate and fidelity?

Thanks
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So my 335m had the Logic 7 system which I took to mean a processing algorithm that made the music sound really good on the hardware they picked out and implemented in the vehicle.

It appears in the m235 that there is no brand name processing engine. Is there anyway to make the system sound better other than just buying more expensive speakers?

Does anyone know the DAC chip or chips doing the Digital 2 Analog conversion in our cars?

Also is the blue tooth current revision with the Aptx for higher bit rate and fidelity?

Thanks
HK in 2 = HiFi in 3 (for all intents and purposes)

You should have Aux-in port in your armrest, that's your answer. Get a dedicated music player with Flac, I have FiiO for example. BT is old school no help there.
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So my 335m had the Logic 7 system which I took to mean a processing algorithm that made the music sound really good on the hardware they picked out and implemented in the vehicle.

It appears in the m235 that there is no brand name processing engine. Is there anyway to make the system sound better other than just buying more expensive speakers?

Does anyone know the DAC chip or chips doing the Digital 2 Analog conversion in our cars?

Also is the blue tooth current revision with the Aptx for higher bit rate and fidelity?

Thanks
HK in 2 - HiFi in 3 (for all intents and purposes)

You should have Aux-in port in your armrest, that's your answer. Get a dedicated music player with Flac, I have FiiO for example. BT is old school no help there.
Sorry I didn't understand your first statement.

But yeah I thought about bypassing and getting a fiio with designer DAC chip and stuffing it full with bit rich high fidelity music files. I just love Spotify though. I stream that at 320 over cellular.
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Sorry I didn't understand your first statement.
The 2-series audio options are worse than those in the 3-series and beyond, so HK in a 2-series is more or less the same stuff you get in the no-cost HiFi system in the 3-series. You could try doing something like Astell&Kern XB10 to get AptX directly into Aux-In if your phone will support it.
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Sorry I didn't understand your first statement.
The 2-series audio options are worse than those in the 3-series and beyond, so HK in a 2-series is more or less the same stuff you get in the no-cost HiFi system in the 3-series.
Oh gotcha!

So i majorly downgraded :/
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Oh gotcha!

So i majorly downgraded :/
Yes. I have HK M235 and HiFi 328 Wagon and they're virtually identical. My upgrades for both have been identical as well. Bavsound speakers (including underseat), Audiotec Fisher amps, then JL amps, Focal woofer and custom box in trunk. Post upgrade all the gear in both cars is literally exactly the same, again HK to HiFi.

Again though check that A&K product if you can stream AptX that should get you what you need in the short term at least.
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Yes. I have HK M235 and HiFi 328 Wagon and they're virtually identical. My upgrades for both have been identical as well. Bavsound speakers (including underseat), Audiotec Fisher amps, then JL amps, Focal woofer and custom box in trunk. Post upgrade all the gear in both cars is literally exactly the same, again HK to HiFi.

Again though check that A&K product if you can stream AptX that should get you what you need in the short term at least.
Honestly I cant afford to re do the audio system and build up the motor. So we know which one will just have to wait...hahaha
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