[gaijin]

Yes, I did seriously take the 228i into account while shopping. The difference between a well-equipped 228i and M235i was minimal in dollar sense in the big skim that I decided to go with I6 turbo power plant.

[scrape1]

Originally Posted by shark715

I know I'm going to get a lot of flak for this, and I mean no disrespect to 228 owners, but I have to say that the 228 is a fine car except for the exhaust note being the same as the boring 328xi loaner I get each time I take my X5 50i in for service. There's just nothing like that sweet sound of a BMW straight six this side of my Porsche flat 6 with sport exhaust. Given that I'm getting the car fully optioned, as several others have pointed out the upcharge to get the 235 engine is not that great.

The exhaust note is indeed nutless. I keep waiting for somebody to make an exhaust for it that will at least make it passable.

[335BOY]

IMO there is no way to make a 4 sound good.

[mmmmm235i]

Originally Posted by gaijin

Yes, I did seriously take the 228i into account while shopping. The difference between a well-equipped 228i and M235i was minimal in dollar sense in the big skim that I decided to go with I6 turbo power plant.

This was my point exactly. There is nothing like the silky smoothness of that BMW I6, add a nice twin scroll turbo and its perfect. You are going to love it.

[gaijin]

[gaijin]

We're now proud owners of MG/CR M235i!

Posted good news.

http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1082904

We really appreciate everyone that participated in this missive. Your opinions mattered and solidified our decision in the ordering of a model pretty much sight unseen.

[jwr0721]

If you're the kind of person who wants the best, get the M235. If you can settle for "good enough" get the 238.

[mvallido]

Originally Posted by gaijin

Yes, I did seriously take the 228i into account while shopping. The difference between a well-equipped 228i and M235i was minimal in dollar sense in the big skim that I decided to go with I6 turbo power plant.

You made the right choice.

[midwest 340xi 6sp]

Originally Posted by jwr0721

If you're the kind of person who wants the best, get the M235. If you can settle for "good enough" get the 238.

I disagree with this completely...I'll bet for most 228i owners, the 228 is far more than a "good enough" decision. It best met their needs, their budgets, their passions etc..

They didnt "settle" for anything.

I could have spent $78k on an M4 if I wanted...Faster, sexier, sleeker than my M235. I choose the M235 instead and for all the reasons many of the 228i owners bought their cars over the 235..

[Supernaut]

Originally Posted by jwr0721

If you're the kind of person who wants the best, get the M235. If you can settle for "good enough" get the 238.

I think that's off base. I debated the lighter, better balanced car versus the faster car. I also struggled with the auto versus manual decision. Both decisions involved compromise in either direction. Kudos to BMW for making it a tough choice.

[chaswyck1]

Originally Posted by jwr0721

If you're the kind of person who wants the best, get the M235. If you can settle for "good enough" get the 238.

Ridiculous! So why didn't you get an M3 or an M4 instead of "settling" for an M235? My question to you is just as ridiculous as your statement to the OP. (Lest anyone misunderstand, I'm being facetious here)

[pazzo]

I test drove both the MSport 228ix and M235i today. I didn't flog them too much, but the M235i was quicker, but also had some understeer in a tight corner where the 228i felt more nimble and planted. Some of which is attributed to weight like in my 328i but also the xdrive probably helped also, both fitted with 18"s, but the M235i had michelin PS.

The M235's traction control kicked in sooner and the rear stepped out more easily. Fun!
Both were wonderful, and I would be happy with either. Both had their +/-'s.

The 228ix had non-staggered (square) tires. 225/40's I believe.
I have a question for the 228i owners, both Msport and ones equipped with Track package.

Are the 228i MSports and the 228i with track package equipped with non-staggered tires?

[bimmerfile]

Originally Posted by chaswyck@yahoo.com

Ridiculous! So why didn't you get an M3 or an M4 instead of "settling" for an M235? My question to you is just as ridiculous as your statement to the OP.

+1

[DYoung]

Yes, my 228i with MSport and track packages came with 225/40's in the front and 245/35's in the rear. The front wheels are 18x7.5 and the rears are 18x8.

Originally Posted by pazzo

The 228ix had non-staggered (square) tires. 225/40's I believe.
I have a question for the 228i owners, both Msport and ones equipped with Track package.

Are the 228i MSports and the 228i with track package equipped with non-staggered tires?

[chaswyck1]

Originally Posted by pazzo

I test drove both the MSport 228ix and M235i today. I didn't flog them too much, but the M235i was quicker, but also had some understeer in a tight corner where the 228i felt more nimble and planted. Some of which is attributed to weight like in my 328i but also the xdrive probably helped also, both fitted with 18"s, but the M235i had michelin PS.

The M235's traction control kicked in sooner and the rear stepped out more easily. Fun!
Both were wonderful, and I would be happy with either. Both had their +/-'s.

The 228ix had non-staggered (square) tires. 225/40's I believe.
I have a question for the 228i owners, both Msport and ones equipped with Track package.

Are the 228i MSports and the 228i with track package equipped with non-staggered tires?

228 with Track Package has staggered Michelin PSS tires. Great setup, great tires.

[pazzo]

Thanks Gents!

[mfourn20]

Originally Posted by pazzo

I test drove both the MSport 228ix and M235i today. I didn't flog them too much, but the M235i was quicker, but also had some understeer in a tight corner where the 228i felt more nimble and planted. Some of which is attributed to weight like in my 328i but also the xdrive probably helped also, both fitted with 18"s, but the M235i had michelin PS.

The M235's traction control kicked in sooner and the rear stepped out more easily. Fun!
Both were wonderful, and I would be happy with either. Both had their +/-'s.

The 228ix had non-staggered (square) tires. 225/40's I believe.
I have a question for the 228i owners, both Msport and ones equipped with Track package.

Are the 228i MSports and the 228i with track package equipped with non-staggered tires?

I have an M-Sport, non track package, came with staggered, summer only Bridgestone runflats....I'm missing them since I switched to my winter setup, but I'll be mounting Michelin PSS in the spring. My car is a lease and I plan on storing the run-flats and putting them back on when I return the car...they're ridiculously expensive.

[hans007]

Originally Posted by pazzo

I test drove both the MSport 228ix and M235i today. I didn't flog them too much, but the M235i was quicker, but also had some understeer in a tight corner where the 228i felt more nimble and planted. Some of which is attributed to weight like in my 328i but also the xdrive probably helped also, both fitted with 18"s, but the M235i had michelin PS.

The M235's traction control kicked in sooner and the rear stepped out more easily. Fun!
Both were wonderful, and I would be happy with either. Both had their +/-'s.

The 228ix had non-staggered (square) tires. 225/40's I believe.
I have a question for the 228i owners, both Msport and ones equipped with Track package.

Are the 228i MSports and the 228i with track package equipped with non-staggered tires?

keep in mind that 228i xdrive m-sport doesn't have a sport suspension, unless it has dynamic handling package adjustable suspension.

so its basically going to have a pretty soft suspension.

[jwr0721]

Originally Posted by chaswyck@yahoo.com

Ridiculous! So why didn't you get an M3 or an M4 instead of "settling" for an M235? My question to you is just as ridiculous as your statement to the OP. (Lest anyone misunderstand, I'm being facetious here)

I wasn't trying to start World War M3 (see what I did there?)

My point is the M235 is the best version of the 2 series. That's all.

And to answer your question- I didn't get an M3 or an M4 because they've become bloated. The 2 is the perfect size, and IMO, exactly what a BMW should be.

[bimmerfile]

[QUOTE=jwr0721;17285103]............................
My point is the M235 is the best version of the 2 series. That's all.

..............QUOTE]

You mean that, in YOUR OPINION, the M235 is the best version of the 2 series.

There are other opinions:
http://jalopnik.com/the-bmw-228i-is-...buy-1662847106

[pazzo]

[/QUOTE]You mean that, in YOUR OPINION, the M235 is the best version of the 2 series.

There are other opinions:
http://jalopnik.com/the-bmw-228i-is-...buy-1662847106[/QUOTE]


That's just it. It's subjective and dependent on your situation. In stock form, Msport 228i/M235...
If you'll be driving boulevard/straight line driving then yes the M235i is better in a straight line with better acceleration, better sound etc.
If you're driving spirited through the hills/mountains on tight twisty roads, 15mph corners and such, the 228i will work just as well, if not better.

Get the car that best suits your needs/requirements and be happy that there are mods to improve it further.

[Sportstick]

Originally Posted by jwr0721

My point is the M235 is the best version of the 2 series. That's all.

The point is false. The reason is conflating one's own subjective feelings with objective reality. There are objective measures which separate the two cars....speed, weight, fuel consumption, handling, price, etc. How each of us puts those elements into our own personal calculator to create our own subjective best varies and each is as valid as the next. There is no point to attempting to force your own personal assessment from subjective to objective...those who already feel the same will continue, and those who don't, will not. Nothing gained, except becoming seen as a source of dogma.