6-spd box fluid change at dealer

overcoil · 02-16-2017, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by delvec03

Hey guys! So I have a 228 and ordered MTF LT 5, but I believe my recommended oil is MTF LT 3. I can't find 3 anywhere online.

Should return the oil and try and get LT 3? Are there differences? What are they?

Thanks for the help!

-Chris

I'm going to look for my receipt frm dlr on 6-spd fluid change and see if the fluid #'s are listed.

Forgot, your working on a 228
Been a long day

Paisano · 02-28-2017, 06:17 PM

Had the gearbox fluid changed as well and noticed much smoother shifts.

matthibodeau · 03-20-2018, 11:58 AM

Paisano at how many KM's and what was the cost?

Hasser · 03-22-2018, 03:27 AM

my car is due its service now - so I think I will ask the dealer to do the gear box fluid change also now - after reading this.

cant hurt can it? (except the wallet that is)

main service, so plugs, filter and engine oil to change.

been quoted £450 here in the uk for the service. would need to add the gearbox fluid change on top of this.

car is march 2014 build so 4 years old now with 17k miles.

delvec03 · 03-22-2018, 07:10 AM

I've given it some thought and I'm going to do mine myself. you can find mtf-lt-3 online for $40/qt. I also snagged a magentiezed drain plug which should help with life of the transmission.

one day on the jacks and I can do my tire rotation at the same time. well worth it.

2015 228i manual, btw

overcoil · 03-22-2018, 07:48 AM

If you get an oil analysis kit for gearboxes - and ask the tech to grab a sample mid stream while emptying - you can kind of verify the service is actually being performed. And you get to analyze the gearbox.

SteveInfante · 03-22-2018, 11:41 AM

There has been some discussion about LT3 versus LT5. LT5 is recommended for both the P car PDK and the BMW DCT, both of which are manuals at the core. You can get LT5 Pentosin on Amazon pretty cheap. It holds 1.4L per the TIS. This is the route I'm going to go very soon. I'm also sending a sample in with my engine oil into Blackstone as well.

delvec03 · 03-22-2018, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveInfante

There has been some discussion about LT3 versus LT5. LT5 is recommended for both the P car PDK and the BMW DCT, both of which are manuals at the core. You can get LT5 Pentosin on Amazon pretty cheap. It holds 1.4L per the TIS. This is the route I'm going to go very soon. I'm also sending a sample in with my engine oil into Blackstone as well.

I've been mulling this for months. my transmission specifically says Lt-3 only. which made me pucker and not spring for the lt-5.

do you have any info on one over the other and why? I've seen that lt-5 is for 235 and lt-3 in my 228.

SteveInfante · 03-22-2018, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by delvec03

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveInfante

There has been some discussion about LT3 versus LT5. LT5 is recommended for both the P car PDK and the BMW DCT, both of which are manuals at the core. You can get LT5 Pentosin on Amazon pretty cheap. It holds 1.4L per the TIS. This is the route I'm going to go very soon. I'm also sending a sample in with my engine oil into Blackstone as well.

I've been mulling this for months. my transmission specifically says Lt-3 only. which made me pucker and not spring for the lt-5.

do you have any info on one over the other and why? I've seen that lt-5 is for 235 and lt-3 in my 228.

I believe there was discussion in the forums that the LT3 was originally for the M235 6MT as well and then it was changed to the LT5. My thoughts are if it was changed from 3-5 for that BMW manual of the same era then why not.

Hasser · 03-24-2018, 11:44 AM

what volume is required for a gearbox oil change?

delvec03 · 03-24-2018, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Hasser

what volume is required for a gearbox oil change?

been seeing 1.4 qts for manual.

Hasser · 03-24-2018, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by delvec03

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Originally Posted by Hasser

what volume is required for a gearbox oil change?

been seeing 1.4 qts for manual.

thanks. need to convert to litres

Hasser · 03-26-2018, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Hasser

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Originally Posted by delvec03

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Originally Posted by Hasser

what volume is required for a gearbox oil change?

been seeing 1.4 qts for manual.

thanks. need to convert to litres

1.32 litres.

MarcoZandrini · 03-26-2018, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by delvec03

Hey guys! So I have a 228 and ordered MTF LT 5, but I believe my recommended oil is MTF LT 3. I can't find 3 anywhere online.

Should return the oil and try and get LT 3? Are there differences? What are they?

Thanks for the help!

-Chris

Contact ZF USA.

Hasser · 04-05-2018, 12:43 PM

confirmed 1.2 litres for the 6MT gear box

6.5 litres for the engine oil.

MarcoZandrini · 04-12-2018, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by delvec03

Hey guys! So I have a 228 and ordered MTF LT 5, but I believe my recommended oil is MTF LT 3. I can't find 3 anywhere online.

Should return the oil and try and get LT 3? Are there differences? What are they?

Thanks for the help!

-Chris

https://www.eeuroparts.com/Parts/141...AaAlnoEALw_wcB

SteveInfante · 04-12-2018, 09:15 PM

This is going in tomorrow.

delvec03 · 04-13-2018, 06:44 AM

you'll be super happy you did it. swapped mine, did lt3, and it's worlds better that it's ever shifted! happy transmissions, happy driver!

Hasser · 04-17-2018, 04:47 AM

got some of this for the manual gear box fluid change.

hopefully the correct fluid.

as it does state for BMW cars.

any opinions?

SteveInfante · 04-18-2018, 04:30 PM

That looks like a good option as well.

SteveInfante · 04-24-2018, 07:42 PM

Here's what I got back from Blackstone on my 6MT oil sample. I had 71,321 miles on this fluid.

02-28-2017, 06:17 PM	#24
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Hasser Major 451 Rep 1,161 Posts Drives: 2014 F10 M5 Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Isle of Man iTrader: (0)	my car is due its service now - so I think I will ask the dealer to do the gear box fluid change also now - after reading this. cant hurt can it? (except the wallet that is) main service, so plugs, filter and engine oil to change. been quoted £450 here in the uk for the service. would need to add the gearbox fluid change on top of this. car is march 2014 build so 4 years old now with 17k miles. __________________ 2014 M5 1990 E30 318i Touring 1999 E38 728i -sold M235i - sold Activehybrid 5 - sold
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delvec03 First Lieutenant 91 Rep 353 Posts Drives: 228i Sport/ DSB Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: United States, DC iTrader: (0)	I've given it some thought and I'm going to do mine myself. you can find mtf-lt-3 online for $40/qt. I also snagged a magentiezed drain plug which should help with life of the transmission. one day on the jacks and I can do my tire rotation at the same time. well worth it. 2015 228i manual, btw
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overcoil Major General 3117 Rep 5,582 Posts Drives: M235i 6spd Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Mid-Atlantic iTrader: (0)	If you get an oil analysis kit for gearboxes - and ask the tech to grab a sample mid stream while emptying - you can kind of verify the service is actually being performed. And you get to analyze the gearbox.
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SteveInfante NewFinishColumbia/detailer 609 Rep 2,096 Posts Drives: 2015 F31 xDrive Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Columbia, SC iTrader: (0)	There has been some discussion about LT3 versus LT5. LT5 is recommended for both the P car PDK and the BMW DCT, both of which are manuals at the core. You can get LT5 Pentosin on Amazon pretty cheap. It holds 1.4L per the TIS. This is the route I'm going to go very soon. I'm also sending a sample in with my engine oil into Blackstone as well. Attached Images __________________ 328 F31 xDrive/OSM/Venetian Luxury Line/Cold Weather/Premium/Driving Assist/Nav/Tech "Golden Goose" 78' Honda CB400A project http://www.instagram.com/steve_inf31
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Hasser Major 451 Rep 1,161 Posts Drives: 2014 F10 M5 Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Isle of Man iTrader: (0)	what volume is required for a gearbox oil change? __________________ 2014 M5 1990 E30 318i Touring 1999 E38 728i -sold M235i - sold Activehybrid 5 - sold
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Hasser Major 451 Rep 1,161 Posts Drives: 2014 F10 M5 Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Isle of Man iTrader: (0)	confirmed 1.2 litres for the 6MT gear box 6.5 litres for the engine oil. __________________ 2014 M5 1990 E30 318i Touring 1999 E38 728i -sold M235i - sold Activehybrid 5 - sold
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04-13-2018, 06:44 AM	#40
delvec03 First Lieutenant 91 Rep 353 Posts Drives: 228i Sport/ DSB Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: United States, DC iTrader: (0)	you'll be super happy you did it. swapped mine, did lt3, and it's worlds better that it's ever shifted! happy transmissions, happy driver!
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Hasser Major 451 Rep 1,161 Posts Drives: 2014 F10 M5 Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Isle of Man iTrader: (0)	got some of this for the manual gear box fluid change. hopefully the correct fluid. as it does state for BMW cars. any opinions? Attached Images __________________ 2014 M5 1990 E30 318i Touring 1999 E38 728i -sold M235i - sold Activehybrid 5 - sold
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SteveInfante NewFinishColumbia/detailer 609 Rep 2,096 Posts Drives: 2015 F31 xDrive Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Columbia, SC iTrader: (0)	That looks like a good option as well. __________________ 328 F31 xDrive/OSM/Venetian Luxury Line/Cold Weather/Premium/Driving Assist/Nav/Tech "Golden Goose" 78' Honda CB400A project http://www.instagram.com/steve_inf31
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SteveInfante NewFinishColumbia/detailer 609 Rep 2,096 Posts Drives: 2015 F31 xDrive Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Columbia, SC iTrader: (0)	Here's what I got back from Blackstone on my 6MT oil sample. I had 71,321 miles on this fluid. Attached Images __________________ 328 F31 xDrive/OSM/Venetian Luxury Line/Cold Weather/Premium/Driving Assist/Nav/Tech "Golden Goose" 78' Honda CB400A project http://www.instagram.com/steve_inf31
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