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after a lot of trial and error (and bending my other fender) finally got the lca+ts combo and caster bushings installed (had to replace 10mm spacer with 5mm and raise height twice) to minimise rubbing. front does feel much grippier and responsive now but quite a headache to sort out the rubbing issues lol. kinda wish I just went with camber plates haha
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Bringing this thread back from the grave here. As many have found, fitting these LCAs can cause quite a headache for the ones lower than stock. Most of the forum posts are here on 2addicts, and I do know that the front fenders on the F22 are tighter than the F30, but I was wondering if you or anyone in here may know what I should expect when I install LCAs to my F30 (haven't gotten a reply on F30Post). I'm considering the F8X TSs as well, but some have reported still having clearance issues once installed, so I'm unsure if worth the investment (as I can add them myself later without another alignment, if needed). I'm also contemplating having the shop raise my front end 1/4-1/2" up front to help mitigate potential rubbing. If you or anyone else could chime in on their expectations, it would be greatly appreciated. I would love to hear "don't worry about it" too, hahaha. My wheels are 18x8.5et38 wrapped with 245/40 PS4S (1.2% smaller than OE) [IMG] View post on imgur.com [/IMG]EDIT: I had the ride height raised about half an inch and the LCAs fit inside without a problem.
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Curious - I've read the thread and it appears there was a complete kit for this and that vendor is no longer actively posting?
So - is there one vendor that offers all the parts as a kit to do this? |
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So I have my car in the shop as I write this and I just got off the phone with them. While they haven't reported any issues as far as rubbing goes, my foreman was concerned with the extension of the tie rod ends and that they are very close to the end of adjustment to compensate for all the toe these add.
My question is, has anyone here ran into any issues with their tie rods in conjuncture with this upgrade? I have done some searching across the board and I can't seem to find anyone even hinting at their tie rod arms not successfully accommodating the excess toe compensation. Thanks in advance. (post is in another thread as well) Edit: Called Turner Motorsport and spoke to Doug. He says they've installed these to countless cars and never had a problem getting it aligned, or had knowledge of problems related to tie rod ends reported later.
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The threaded rod that we use is typically cut from mild steel. I would imagine that this is weaker than most bolts used in automotive. A 1/2" rod would have 1/2" insertion and a 3/8" rod would have 3/8". That is typically the height of the associated nut. |
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Assuming the materials that are threaded are roughly equivalent in strength, 6 complete threads is normally the minimum for standard threads, for example M12x1.5 or M12x1.75, but 8 threads for a less common ultra fine thread such as M12x1.25.
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"Install new front control arms. INSTALLED CUSTOMER SUPPLIED FRONT LOWER CONTROL ARMS. UPON INSTALL TECH NOTED THAT TIE ROD ENDS ARE AT MAX ADJUSTMENT. ADVISE CUSTOMER THAT TIE RODS ARE UNSAFE FOR DAILY DRIVING, THREADED ENDS ARE ONLY CAPTURED BY CLAMPING SECTION OF OUTER TIE ROD END. CUSTOMER DECLINED FURTHER REPAIRS OR REPLACEMENT PARTS AND REQUESTED CAR BE DELIVERED AS IS."
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I had my KW's raised up to max height (only another 1/2" up) because I wanted to be sure it'd be good under compression at LRP and I didn't have a single instance of rub. I'm running the 18x8.5 ET38 SM-10s with 245/40-18 PS4S, good to know I have room if I choose to upsize to 255s. The arms make a fantastic difference on track, the bushings and extra camber really help out a ton. Very happy with the mod, even without the tension arms.
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The LCA/TS mod absolutely send more vibes and feedback through the steering column. Between that and coilovers I get wheel movement/feedback from almost everything, probably more than most would want, lol. This is why most people buy M cars, "feel", and I can see how one person driving an M2, then an M235 would be suggesting a "numbness" from the M235, it's exactly what BMW intended on doing.
We're lucky to have the flexibility to do this, it's a great mod for the F22/F30 crowd!
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I had some rattling/knocking over bumps which largely went away after alignment. After alignment I still get a few noises but nowhere near as much
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From memory I used 12.2mm and 6.3mm, which replicated the positioning of the stock bushing. Was a tight fit.
I also used a 2mm spacer for the LCA. OD 30mm stainless steel. No knocking experienced whatsoever. Also a bit of a Meh!!! mod. Not the vast improvement others before me made out. The tighter M bushings made the most difference IMO. |
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I just love the look of some negative camber. Would just adding the M4 LCA on its own be ok? My car has a tiny knock at 55k miles which to me indicates worn bushings and soon will need to replace. Any possible adverse effects to consider? I noticed some comments on rubbing. A bit of info: my car is 100% stock. Only looking to upgrade the stock 18" wheels to 18" wheels that are 8.5"front, 9.5" rear with 235 & 255 tires respectively. |
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