2014 BMW M235i and 228i Pricing Guide (U.S.) [Updated Dec. 20] |
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12-12-2013, 10:57 AM | #112 |
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I had a 2002, 2003 and 2004 M3 E46 and the 2004 stickered for over $57K without Nav so actually these price out way below without considering inflation. Performance should be similar. I've looked for a used E46 for a year and most are either SMG or over 80,000 miles. The few I could find were convertibles or had many mods, they are really tough to find.
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12-12-2013, 11:02 AM | #113 |
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All BMW's have a max governed speed of 155 when equipped with the right options, recently though they've opened up the option to raise the governor to 300 kph, 186 mph for an extra charge on the F1x M cars, but so far, that's been the only exception.
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12-12-2013, 11:39 AM | #115 |
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Since the M235 most closely compares with an E46 M3 this is how my 2004 M3 priced out 10 years ago.
Base price with dest. $47,775 Metalic paint. 475 Cold weather pkg. 750 Premium pkg. 3,300 moonroof,power seat, nappa leather (that's all you got) adj seats/lumbar. 500 Xenon 700 Premium Sound (HK) 675 Aluminum int trim. 300 19" wheels. 1,750 Gas Guzzler tax. 1,000 yes it's right on the sticker and part of the invoice price total. 57,245 So Xenons are part of the M235 and apple to apple base price would be: M3 $49,775 vs $44,075 I included xenon and alum trim for M3 (standard on M235) Pricing doesn't look bad compared to other BMW pricing historically it just looks bad compared to domestic competition.
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Perhaps in their mind, being BMW's, the thought is that making the manual transmission a no cost option is a bit of a gift to us, since overall, that option is more expensive for them to produce. Still don't like the shift, but if that's the case, I can at least understand the thinking...
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Take into account that perhaps M cars are driven harder, tracked more often, etc., the potential for higher operational costs has to factor into the discussion one way or another.
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I feel the M235i is a solid offering at the price point. It's going to be faster than a e46 M3, possibly on par with the 1M, more fuel efficient than the past two previous M3's and more standard options from BMW than I can remember at the current price point. I optioned mine out to $51,100. Pretty much loaded besides two packages which saved $1,500 of useless features. If you want more bang for your buck, you need to look elsewhere. BMW's were never known to be the best bang for your buck type of cars. |
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Nice $5,000 more than my 2011 128i for exactly the same equipment and in exchange I get an uninspiring 4 banger turbo and a disconnected steering, no thanks I will pass and go check something else designed for a car enthusiast
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The 228 is just not worth it after adding all the Msport options. Basically pay an extra $4k and you have yourself a much better car. However, the M235i does come a bit pricey as well. I may have to go with the 2015 Golf R. They are posting some monster numbers on that car and will only be around $40k. We'll see what happens. My ultimate choice would be an M2, obviously have to wait and see what those numbers will show... |
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I take it you haven't driven an N20? Living in CO you'd have double the benefit that us flatlanders have. The steering is likely to be a legitimate complaint though.
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btw, 2.0t i4T engine is awesome. I have a 528i. def lovely engine, and it should be even better in much lighter chassis.
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I have, I cannot stand the diesel sound and I don't care for the power and torque delivery, love the linearity and sound of the N52 even if I probably lost 23 ponies when I moved here. The N20 is a good engine, it is just unexciting and uninspiring and I have a hard time paying more than 40K for something equipped with a 4 pot engine. The only reason I bought a BMW in the first place is gone, don't like the brand enough to pay so much money for something (probably - I would still give it a test drive before being that definitive) less special than my current car... Too bad, i think it looks good...
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I never said it was a good auto x car. I said when I drove it on an auto x "like" track it handled quite well. Unfortunately, they didn't give us the regular 435i to drive against it so I'll take your word for it although in the sharp turns coming out of a loop I didn't find it understeered unless you didn't hit the acceleration at the right time or if I let off the accelerator since it isn't like driving a rwd car. I was doing it wrong initially and the BMW driving instructor changed how I came out of the loop and it made a world of difference. It actually felt like it sucked me out of the corner.
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As for the R, current rumors seem to be that it will be here in the later half of next year. It's easy to remove the nannies with after market tuning, at least on the Mk6, and I'm sure they'll sort it out on the Mk7. I'm still curious to see what the Haldex ratio is on the Mk7. |
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