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C&D 2020 Porsche 718 GT4 Review
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-the-numbers/
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GT4 looks awesome, and that C/D praised the hell out of the car, so its likely to be very good, although the gearing still worries me, as I would also want a car for street use. Currently thinking of getting the GTS4.0 or CPO 991.2 CT/CS in a year or so but that would require getting rid of 2 cars for one so not really sure, will have to test drive to make a decision.
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Don't get me wrong I think this is a fantastic car but C&D's love affair with Porsche is getting to be a little too much IMO. I think it's the first time I've ever seen them not list a low for a vehicle despite admitting the following;
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An M car is expected to carry over all the BMW features with luxury, unless you get to, what is it, the GTS where the door handles are replaced with straps? It'll be stiffer, sure, but they are pretty far from pure track cars (which is where their GTS model comes along).
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Not sure I agree with that take as you can option up a GT4 with all the luxury features of other Porsches (you can coat the interior in leather or alcantara). There are far more luxury options to choose than what is available for a typical M car. The reality is that the GT4 will not be any different than M or AMG cars in that a good portion of buyers will not be tracking them. I think it's fair to criticize C&D for moving the goalposts here not that it should take away from what appears to be a great little car.
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We have a 718 Boxster 2.0t and would consider the GTS 4.0 for more creature comforts instead of a more track focused car in the GT4. However at those prices, I think I’d rather have a 991.2 or a 992 Cab.
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I knew that was coming. The excuse king
The driver of the new GT4 was the driver of record at the Ring more then anyone else in the top 50 performing cars. Can you even believe what you type? Wow 7:28 was nothing more then a Porsche claim from many months ago, you cannot possibly claim that a legitimate time. It was said to get guys like you salivating but when push comes to shove they fell short. As we went back and forth before in very similar discussion, 7:34 is the time that’s official and it remain so, regardless of what fantasies you conjure up.
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The guy who wheeled the new Porsche is a master of Nürburgring using Ring timing. The official list don’t lie. Your excuses fall flat on it face, yet again.
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Well porsche is not stupid, offering those features=profit.
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Yes Porsche dealer play games but not all dealers are the same and not all buyers are rich speculators.
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You know Porsche could have easily had a ‘factory’ driver do a run anytime they chose, and it’s been quite some time since they claimed it could do a 4 second faster lap but it never happened. In fact, makers often try to get suitable laps using drivers of their choosing but fail to hit the number they want and we often don’t hear about them, the company couldn’t match or better the listed time. Oh well. You really know how to make an argument.
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For discussions sake, lets use a speed of 140mph running down the final mile at the Ring, 4 seconds works out to a bit over 800 feet. Far from a photo finish and a quite substantial amount of time and distance, especially in track timing. Most accept the fact that 4 seconds at Nürburgring is a big difference, even when claimed by a manufacturer that cant match or better the time they claimed it would.
As to the Corvette comment, you and I had a discussion months ago where you said the 992 times would beat the new C8 and I disagreed. We mutually agreed to let the OFFICIAL numbers do the talking when they started running them. Well they did and the C8 edged out the 992 in two tracks(2-0 and counting) thus far and you immediately started making excuse after excuse just as you are now. It’s obviously your M.O. and it can’t be changed. I’m a man of my word and would have accepted it if the Corvette didn’t beat the Porsche and would have said as much, you on the other hand cannot, just as you’re doing now. It’s really pretty sad.
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