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      06-09-2017, 07:38 AM   #1
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my father will buy a 228i 2015
I heard so many problems with the N20
can somebody tell me what is going on with this engine and should we buy the car?
only thing i heard was timing chain issue....
thanks
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      06-09-2017, 09:33 AM   #2
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Hi,
my father will buy a 228i 2015
I heard so many problems with the N20
can somebody tell me what is going on with this engine and should we buy the car?
only thing i heard was timing chain issue....
thanks
The N20 of that vintage is fine. Unless your father plans to tune the car to within a hair's width of its design tolerances, the motor is as reliable as any other BMW has made recently -- particularly after BMW addressed the two flaws it did have when it was first introduced in 2011: that timing chain, and the fuel pump.
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      06-09-2017, 10:17 AM   #3
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so your saying 2015 model don't have that problem anymore?
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      06-09-2017, 12:29 PM   #4
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Not to my knowledge ...

... and if it did, do you think I'd own one myself? (See my sig)
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ok yeah i see !!
i just heard so much horror stories on it !!
cause i own a N55 and there is nothing better then that in the industry !!
N20 cant compete with it
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If the car was built after January 2015 it should have the updated timing chain parts.
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Hi,
my father will buy a 228i 2015
I heard so many problems with the N20
can somebody tell me what is going on with this engine and should we buy the car?
only thing i heard was timing chain issue....
thanks
The timing chain was redesigned for the 2015 model year because of its problems. The 2012-14 models had recalls to address this issue along with the fuel pump. My 2015 hasn't missed a beat,though it only has 13K miles on it. My subjective opinion is that it is a wonderful engine. Torquey and powerful with good gas mileage. Go for it.
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      06-09-2017, 01:05 PM   #8
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it was build in 2014 the car
so is it bad?
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      06-09-2017, 01:15 PM   #9
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since you guys tell me that im scared...
the car was bought in august of 2014 and is a 2015 model !!
so i guess i need to ask the guy if he did the recalls????
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Unfortunately it's not a recall item.

Since he already has the car I would just get a warranty and not worry about it.

It's not like every pre 2015 has failed either
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      06-09-2017, 01:26 PM   #11
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but if the timing chain fails its freaking 20K thats a big risk
we have warranty for 14months left....it has 28K kilometers in miles its like 15K..
not sure now.......
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Yeah I understand the feeling

It would be worth getting an extended warranty IMHO.

Look at it this way, the warranty would cover more than just the motor.
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u cannot get a extended warranty on a used vehicule not sold by BMW
its a private sale
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There are aftermarket warranties you can purchase
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ok but what are my chances of having a timing issue of 20K repair cost on the N20 2014
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u cannot get a extended warranty on a used vehicule not sold by BMW
its a private sale
Not sure about Canada but in the US that is absolutely not the case. The original warranty transfers to the new owner, and the new owner can pay BMW to CPO the car through 75K or 100K any time before that original warranty lapses.
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      06-09-2017, 01:56 PM   #17
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No way to tell how likely it will happen. But from what I have seen IF it does it's a total engine replacement.

That goes for any car really, they are complex machines.
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BTW that 20k number is for a BMW dealer to put a brand new engine in.

You could probably get a used engine for less than 5k plus whatever the labor cost would be at an independent shop.
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Did BMW give an extended warranty for the N20 timing issue?
cause i remember for the N54 they had the fuel pump for 7years total
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I would talk to BMW

I haven't seen anything for the n20 timing chain though.
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Did BMW give an extended warranty for the N20 timing issue?
cause i remember for the N54 they had the fuel pump for 7years total
no extended warranty
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      06-09-2017, 05:14 PM   #22
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2015 N26 here and no problems at all, even with fairly aggressive tuning. It's a great engine.
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