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      05-10-2016, 08:27 PM   #1
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N20 Intakes, What do you have!

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Curious to know what everyones rolling just deciding between Injen or AFE.

AWE Ruled out as ive been interested for awhile ive been waiting for the exhaust to get both Exhaust & Intake same time but theyve been taking to long and wanting to purchase the intake itself being told they've run out.

Brands like Gruppe M etc don't have anything for N20 that im aware of, out of curiosity Is there anybody else with Carbon ones?
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Intake for N20 are a disadvantage and not improvement
Get a Dry Droo-in filter from AFE or a BMC filter
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Intake for N20 are a disadvantage and not improvement
Get a Dry Droo-in filter from AFE or a BMC filter
howso?!
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howso?!
Proven data that on the N20 engine the intakes provide no performance gain at all infact it will hurt performance. Intakes for N20 are only for cosmetic and sound.

On the N55 is a different story

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Proven data that on the N20 engine the intakes provide no performance gain at all infact it will hurt performance. Intakes for N20 are only for cosmetic and sound.

On the N55 is a different story

Good luck
Are there any threads or anything on this?
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There seems to be no performance benefit for an intake without a tune (Stage 2). I am not aware of any such product for the N20 and the likelihood of one for the N26 is even more remote, sadly.
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There seems to be no performance benefit for an intake without a tune (Stage 2). I am not aware of any such product for the N20 and the likelihood of one for the N26 is even more remote, sadly.
confused with the whole N26 thing, my 228i has N20 and so does every other on in Australia and other guys in America?

But here are the intakes for N20;
http://www.topgearsolutions.com/afe-...-328i-n20.html

http://www.topgearsolutions.com/inje...-328i-f30.html
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AFE Stage 2 Cold Air Intake System PRO 5R Oil 51-12212, 2012-2016 BMW 320i / 328i / 428i F30 / F32

This Stage-2 cold air intake system resulted in 11 max horsepower, 15 lbs. x ft. torque and out-flowed the factory intake by 38% on the 2012-2014 BMW 328i (F30) N20 Turbo.

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Injen Short Ram Intake (Polished) SP1122P, 2013-2016 BMW 328i / 428i (N20 /N26) F30 / F32 *Free Shipping*

In testing performed by Injen at their R & D facility the 328i Short Ram system made 9.6 hp and 21.54 ft. lbs of torque!
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AFE Stage 2 Cold Air Intake System PRO 5R Oil 51-12212, 2012-2016 BMW 320i / 328i / 428i F30 / F32

This Stage-2 cold air intake system resulted in 11 max horsepower, 15 lbs. x ft. torque and out-flowed the factory intake by 38% on the 2012-2014 BMW 328i (F30) N20 Turbo.

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Injen Short Ram Intake (Polished) SP1122P, 2013-2016 BMW 328i / 428i (N20 /N26) F30 / F32 *Free Shipping*

In testing performed by Injen at their R & D facility the 328i Short Ram system made 9.6 hp and 21.54 ft. lbs of torque!
Those figures are within the range of normal deviance between tests. As pointed out earlier in the thread, the stock intake on the N20 with a good filter is more than adequate.

Aesthetically, they are an improvement.
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There seems to be no performance benefit for an intake without a tune (Stage 2). I am not aware of any such product for the N20 and the likelihood of one for the N26 is even more remote, sadly.
confused with the whole N26 thing, my 228i has N20 and so does every other on in Australia and other guys in America?

But here are the intakes for N20;
http://www.topgearsolutions.com/afe-...-328i-n20.html

http://www.topgearsolutions.com/inje...-328i-f30.html
There are intakes, no doubt, but no tunes to adapt N20/N26 engine output for them. No earthly point in doing one without a tune.

The N26 is a SULEV (Super Ultra Low Emission Vehicle) version of the N20. Its power output is very close to that of the N20 but its stricter emissions protocols, plus the laws of several US states in which the N26 and not the N20, is the default engine for the 228i make it unpopular as a tuner platform. I am grateful that there are at least Stage 1 products for the N26 and am very happy with my tuned N26 228's output but I am a little sad that I have no more headroom for tuning this engine without either buying iffy, untested products or making the car street-illegal in California.
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Those figures are within the range of normal deviance between tests. As pointed out earlier in the thread, the stock intake on the N20 with a good filter is more than adequate.

Aesthetically, they are an improvement.
Ah thanks. Guess i shall look into some filter options!

Have any recommendations man?
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Ah thanks. Guess i shall look into some filter options!

Have any recommendations man?
I went with K&N as I found a great deal, but BMS makes a great paper filter that flows and I know many forum members are running one of these two.
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I went with K&N as I found a great deal, but BMS makes a great paper filter that flows and I know many forum members are running one of these two.
Hey thanks for the response, Man im on their now about to purchase some after reading their description BUT I CANT FIND ONE FOR F22?!?!?

http://burgertuning.com/drop_in_repl...r_filters.html
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I went with K&N as I found a great deal, but BMS makes a great paper filter that flows and I know many forum members are running one of these two.
Nevermind thanks for your help i sorted it all out, will get one from local K&N dealer!

Thanks so much man!
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I went with K&N as I found a great deal, but BMS makes a great paper filter that flows and I know many forum members are running one of these two.
Performance improvements aside, how noticeable is the change in sound using the K&N drop in over the stock filter? Can you describe it?
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Performance improvements aside, how noticeable is the change in sound using the K&N drop in over the stock filter? Can you describe it?
I don't know how I would describe it, more "woosh" as the engine revs. The turbo spool is also louder. Normal driving there is no difference, but when I plant my foot, I can hear the engine "breathing". HTH
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The intakes on the n20/n26 don't do anything for performance unless you upgrade your turbo and I'm not 100% on that since I'm not planning on doing so. The sound is pretty great if you have a thing for hearing your turbo spool almost all the time if you're in sport mode lol. I have the injen intake and the "woosh" sound like OpenAir had said above is all I can describe. When the pressure is relieved off the throttle is quite loud as well. It's been on my n20 for at least 4 months and I still can't get enough.
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The intakes on the n20/n26 don't do anything for performance unless you upgrade your turbo and I'm not 100% on that since I'm not planning on doing so. The sound is pretty great if you have a thing for hearing your turbo spool almost all the time if you're in sport mode lol. I have the injen intake and the "woosh" sound like OpenAir had said above is all I can describe. When the pressure is relieved off the throttle is quite loud as well. It's been on my n20 for at least 4 months and I still can't get enough.
You think you could record a video by any chance? Not sure whether i want to buy intake or not now after these responses please i really hope the woosh is alot louder as mine now in sport with tune is nice already i would love for it to be even louder.
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You think you could record a video by any chance? Not sure whether i want to buy intake or not now after these responses please i really hope the woosh is alot louder as mine now in sport with tune is nice already i would love for it to be even louder.
The volume with an aftermarket intake will be MUCH louder than the stock with a better filter...If cosmetics and sound are what you want, then pull the trigger...just don't expect to drop a tenth off your 0-60 times....
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Injen is by far the most popular N20 intake for us
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2Banger those 10HP 15TQ are at the crank lol which estimates to 0 at the wheels.
The best you can do if you live in heat-soak weather all year long is getting a Cold Air Intake or AFE Dry Drop-in filter or BMC (italian brand).
With or without a tune there are no gains on the N20/N26
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The best you can do if you live in heat-soak weather all year long is getting a Cold Air Intake or AFE Dry Drop-in filter or BMC (italian brand).
I do live in heat-soak weather all year long, so out of the two posted you'd say AFE would be better then?

The fact that its opened and not closed up is that a bad thing in my case?
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