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      09-02-2015, 03:00 PM   #1
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Timetable for BMW 230i, M240i, M2 LCI updates and new engines

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Why would the M2 come as an LCI model? Am I missing something? LCI models will get a B series engine. M2 gets the N series engine -- hence, not LCI... or CarPlay, or OLED lights. Granted, my 335is had the N54 engine with LCI parts, but it was for all purposes, just another e92.
Engines and LCI are two totally different things. They often coincide, but there's no dependency either way.

So, to clarify:

2016 M2 - not LCI

2017 230i and M240i - not LCI, just new engines, plus whatever parts BMW adds across the board for the new model year (in this case wifi hotspot)

2018 230i and M240i - LCI with engines introduced a year earlier.

2018 M2 will get new LCI design features in the places that it shares with regular 2 Series cars. Whether it will also be called LCI, is unknown - BMW is very inconsistent in that regard when it comes to M cars.
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The difference in power between the M2 And M240i will be very slim hope the price difference will be slim too.
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Originally Posted by ynguldyn View Post
Engines and LCI are two totally different things. They often coincide, but there's no dependency either way.

So, to clarify:
- 2016 M2 - not LCI
- 2017 230i and M240i - not LCI, just new engines, plus whatever parts BMW adds across the board for the new model year (in this case wifi hotspot)
- 2018 230i and M240i - LCI with engines introduced a year earlier.
- 2018 M2 will get new LCI design features in the places that it shares with regular 2er cars. Whether it will also be called LCI, is unknown - BMW is very inconsistent in that regard when it comes to M cars.
Are the 2ers getting OLED as well? Or is that for the 4er and up?
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Originally Posted by hyperzulu View Post
Why would the M2 come as an LCI model? Am I missing something? LCI models will get a B series engine. M2 gets the N series engine -- hence, not LCI... or CarPlay, or OLED lights. Granted, my 335is had the N54 engine with LCI parts, but it was for all purposes, just another e92.
Engines and LCI are two totally different things. They often coincide, but there's no dependency either way.

So, to clarify:
- 2016 M2 - not LCI
- 2017 230i and M240i - not LCI, just new engines, plus whatever parts BMW adds across the board for the new model year (in this case wifi hotspot)
- 2018 230i and M240i - LCI with engines introduced a year earlier.
- 2018 M2 will get new LCI design features in the places that it shares with regular 2er cars. Whether it will also be called LCI, is unknown - BMW is very inconsistent in that regard when it comes to M cars.
Thanks for this clarification. I guess you haven't heard anything about the M2 Csl on your side yet?
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CarPlay shouldn't take years to implement... Mercedes, Audi, Volkswagen and a lot more already offer it. Shame on you BMW, shame on you.
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      09-02-2015, 05:03 PM   #7
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The difference in power between the M2 And M240i will be very slim hope the price difference will be slim too.
40hp is slim?
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Are the 2ers getting OLED as well? Or is that for the 4er and up?
It's unclear atm where OLED will go.
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The difference in power between the M2 And M240i will be very slim hope the price difference will be slim too.
40hp is slim?
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Are the 2ers getting OLED as well? Or is that for the 4er and up?
It's unclear atm where OLED will go.
That depend of what is the final output of the M2 let say 365hp versus a 335hp M240i that is even worst than the 35hp difference between the 1m and the 135i.
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40hp is slim?
Not to mention:

Brakes
DCT
Real suspension
Exhaust
Substantive motor/cooling changes
Wheels
Wider track/body
Etc, etc...

Basically the same list of shit that's different between a 3er and M3, 4er and M4, etc., etc...

I lived with a 235 for 17 months - the M2 is going to be a very very different experience...and I know that because I have driven the F80X M cars enough to know that firsthand.
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40hp is slim?
Not to mention:

Brakes
DCT
Real suspension
Exhaust
Substantive motor/cooling changes
Wheels
Wider track/body
Etc, etc...

Basically the same list of shit that's different between a 3er and M3, 4er and M4, etc., etc...

I lived with a 235 for 17 months - the M2 is going to be a very very different experience...and I know that because I have driven the F80X M cars enough to know that firsthand.
Not quite the same list of shit. Some of the things that the M3 and M4 have over their non-M counterparts include carbon fiber body panels, optional carbon ceramic brakes, optional M Performance exhausts, optional LED headlights, and unique seats. The M2 won't have any of these.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ynguldyn View Post
Engines and LCI are two totally different things. They often coincide, but there's no dependency either way.

So, to clarify:
- 2016 M2 - not LCI
- 2017 230i and M240i - not LCI, just new engines, plus whatever parts BMW adds across the board for the new model year (in this case wifi hotspot)
- 2018 230i and M240i - LCI with engines introduced a year earlier.
- 2018 M2 will get new LCI design features in the places that it shares with regular 2er cars. Whether it will also be called LCI, is unknown - BMW is very inconsistent in that regard when it comes to M cars.
Will the 2018 M2 be getting the B58 engine?
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2018 M2 will get new LCI design features in the places that it shares with regular 2er cars. Whether it will also be called LCI, is unknown - BMW is very inconsistent in that regard when it comes to M cars.
Humm...
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Are you going to announce the other edition? Or are you waiting?
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2018 M2 will get new LCI design features in the places that it shares with regular 2er cars. Whether it will also be called LCI, is unknown - BMW is very inconsistent in that regard when it comes to M cars.
Humm...
They will prob change the engine from the N55 to the B58 with the LCI. Looks like the M235i LCI will be 335 HP. With the M2 at 365 (30hp more) that's why I think the LCI will be the B58 and they will also add HP hopefully 385?
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Are you going to announce the other edition? Or are you waiting?
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Is N55 outdated? Just bought a f32 with n55
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Is N55 outdated? Just bought a f32 with n55
It's old but still great
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Is N55 outdated? Just bought a f32 with n55
It's old but still great
Feel kinda regret when i see this post. Apple carplay and wifi hotspot are coming.
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