M4 Convertible rhinoplasty available?

TonM3 · 06-18-2021, 12:14 PM

When it is time to replace my manual convertible M240 the only choice will be a convertible M4. While the profile is kind of OK in a Mustangy BMW way, the front is an abomination.

We see M2 aftermarket front bumpers for the F22, has someone come out with a less horrible replacement bumper for the M4? An F80 style aftermarket bumper would be great.

This is predicted on BMW making the manual available for the convertible as well.

I am posting it here because over on the M4 side there is pressure to pretend the front end is not that bad (it is) and that it doesn't ruin the car because it is fast (it still does).
Yes I have seen it in person, and while it is less ugly, it is still very very ugly.

dradernh · 06-18-2021, 12:43 PM

It shouldn't be too hard to park it so you don't have to look at the front end, except on rare occasions when that wouldn't work. I'd use those occasions as reminders to park somewhere else next time.

MikeT · 06-18-2021, 12:50 PM

Hate the grille... but, man, I just love Isle of Man Green. If the next M2 comes in that color, I'm going to be really tempted.

BEM-S4 · 06-18-2021, 12:50 PM

Someone in EU makes a conversion kit for a more traditional look, forget the name of the vendor though. Path of least resistance (and expense) is likely an EU front plate and call it a day.

EDIT: Actually think it's Prior Design, check them out not sure if planning or commercialized.

TonM3 · 06-18-2021, 12:52 PM

Imagine buying a car so ugly you have to plan around how not to look at it.

p912guy · 06-18-2021, 01:23 PM

Not that it's saying much, but I do think the M4 looks better than the M440 or 430. Regarding the M4 convertible, from what I've read, it won't be available as a basic M4 with a MT option as is available with a coupe, but only as the next level up and only with xDrive and AT. Even if you could get past the esthetics, and lack of MT, the M4 is HUGE and heavy.

dradernh · 06-18-2021, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TonM3

Imagine buying a car so ugly you have to plan around how not to look at it.

My point.

Why there's not going to be a Lexus owned by this household anytime soon.

TonM3 · 06-18-2021, 01:46 PM

Looks like I'll be searching for a gently used 2021 M240 convertible one day.

raddoc · 06-18-2021, 03:36 PM

Old college solution, the Double Bagger: one for car, the other over your head, just in case car's bag falls off!

freakystyly · 06-18-2021, 03:44 PM

Not sure how much it would cost to do a bumper facelift properly with all the parking sensors and active grille baloney going on now a days. Not to mention the paint matching. Of course when there's a will there's a way, and there will be a lot people looking for their fix.. hopefully for everyone else that has to look at it's sake.

MikeT · 06-18-2021, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by freakystyly

Not sure how much it would cost to do a bumper facelift properly with all the parking sensors and active grille baloney going on now a days. Not to mention the paint matching. Of course when there's a will there's a way, and there will be a lot people looking for their fix.. hopefully for everyone else that has to look at it's sake.

Great points. At this point, an aftermarket front ain't just a snap-off-snap-on fix. It's not a project that I'd personally want to take on.

At what point, if ever, does BMW turn tail, admit their mistake and replace it with something non-insane themselves? I guess that'll depend on their sales numbers...

dradernh · 06-18-2021, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeT

Great points. At this point, an aftermarket front ain't just a snap-off-snap-on fix. It's not a project that I'd personally want to take on.

At what point, if ever, does BMW turn tail, admit their mistake and replace it with something non-insane themselves? I guess that'll depend on their sales numbers...

Market-wise, the dominant market now is China, which is decidedly different than North America.

I predict that BMW will ascertain that no turning of tail nor admission of mistakes will be warranted, nor necessary, for them to meet their sales projections.

As always, stay tuned...

USA-RET · 06-19-2021, 08:14 AM

Just buy an Audi or Mercedes if you hate it that much.

It came as shock when I first saw it, but now I have warmed to it and actually like the look.

If a person is independently wealthy and can afford to have someone to fashion a whole new front end to a brand new car...the entire idea is pretty "wacky".

Lucky13 · 06-19-2021, 08:16 AM

I think it is selling well, might just be because of lack of BMW inventory at dealers but the M4’s they got in blew out. The looks have grown on me, in dark colors its not bad but its still way too big so I’d never buy one. If I wanted another convertible it would be a used M235/240 manual or auto Z4 because of size.

Sportstick · 06-19-2021, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by USA-RET

Just buy an Audi

There is nothing so bad to cause that.....

TonM3 · 06-19-2021, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by USA-RET

Just buy an Audi or Mercedes if you hate it that much.

It came as shock when I first saw it, but now I have warmed to it and actually like the look.

If a person is independently wealthy and can afford to have someone to fashion a whole new front end to a brand new car...the entire idea is pretty "wacky".

Please show me the convertible stick shift model by Mercedes or Audi.
if you're not going to bother to read what I posted why do you bother to respond?

stein_325i · 06-19-2021, 09:07 AM

Unfortunately you're stuck in a few different scenarios to find a convertible with a stick since BMW will no longer be offering a convertible with a manual.

1) Keep your M240.

2) Find a replacement M240 (likely will be difficult), or used F83 6MT (also rare).

3) Switch Brands to Porsche, Mazda, Ford, Chevy, etc.

peteyrx7 · 06-19-2021, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BEM-S4

Someone in EU makes a conversion kit for a more traditional look, forget the name of the vendor though. Path of least resistance (and expense) is likely an EU front plate and call it a day.

EDIT: Actually think it's Prior Design, check them out not sure if planning or commercialized.

Every time I buy a new car I insist that the dealer not drill the front bumper to install a plate. With new M3/M4, I'd ask how many plates they can fit up front. I'd have them make Swiss cheese out of it with drill holes to cover that front end.

MarcoZandrini · 06-19-2021, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by USA-RET

Just buy an Audi or Mercedes if you hate it that much.

Gott im Himmel!

TAZ007 · 06-19-2021, 10:23 AM

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder....I do not behold the schnoz on the new 3/4 series.

Uscray · 06-19-2021, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dradernh

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonM3

Imagine buying a car so ugly you have to plan around how not to look at it.

My point.

Why there's not going to be a Lexus owned by this household anytime soon.

At least the Lexus has top of the line reliability, resale value and smooth quiet ride.

Ron Jeffries · 06-19-2021, 11:32 AM

it's far less obvious in black.

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