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      07-04-2019, 12:35 PM   #265
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On a dedicated track car, you might choose slotted rotors. If you drive your car on the street, I'm not sure it matters.

Be sure and let us know how the new PFC08s work for you at Laguna Seca.
Sure, can not wait to go to the next track day with these racing pads for the first time! Will definitely report the results
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      07-04-2019, 12:39 PM   #266
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OE rotors will be fine with PFC-08, it's an endurance compound, not supposed to be super tough on rotors. I went from Pagid RSL-29 (yellows) to PFC-08s this year. Pedal control needs to be more finite with them, but they grab earlier. They'll work just fine at Laguna.
Yes I also debated betwee Ragid RSL-29 and PFC 08 and I eventually ordered PFC08. Guess I can not go wrong with either one of them and PFC08s have much better price.
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      07-30-2019, 11:04 PM   #267
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What’s the equivalent of carbotech xp10? There doesn’t seem to be a fitment for the m240. Ebc blue stuff? Ferodo 3000? I’m having a hard time getting information. Loved my XP10’s on my MINI and the M240 is basically being driven the same.
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      08-01-2019, 10:46 AM   #268
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What’s the equivalent of carbotech xp10? There doesn’t seem to be a fitment for the m240. Ebc blue stuff? Ferodo 3000? I’m having a hard time getting information. Loved my XP10’s on my MINI and the M240 is basically being driven the same.
Looks like XP10 has fade resistance up to 1650 F. If that data is correct, the only pad that I know of can match that kind of MOT is the new Ferodo DS3.12.

Most of our customers are happy with the RS29, PFC08, and DS1.11 for extended wear track pads.
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      08-02-2019, 03:23 PM   #269
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Hawk Performance HPS 5.0

I'm looking to replace my front stock brake pads with something slightly better and considering the Hawk Performance HPS 5.0. I'm not sure if they will fit my 2016 M235i.

The spreadsheet at the start of this thread does not show a part number for the fronts (is this intentional?), which appears to be HB765B.664.

The Hawk Performance website lists the 2014-2015 M235i but not 2016. Does anyone know if there was change for 2016 that would cause this? I wonder if this is just oversight on their part.

Thanks!
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      08-06-2019, 10:00 AM   #270
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Looks like XP10 has fade resistance up to 1650 F. If that data is correct, the only pad that I know of can match that kind of MOT is the new Ferodo DS3.12.

Most of our customers are happy with the RS29, PFC08, and DS1.11 for extended wear track pads.
Thank you for the info. I had a hard time finding a way of comparing info on different pad types. Hawk has a nice graph but I couldn’t find mu info ( understood it’s hard to compare mu between brands, but just as general information). I couldn’t seem to find anything on ferodo. Ebc Doesn’t seem to list info either. This thread is great, but it’s so big it’s impossible to read the whole thing .

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      08-06-2019, 10:45 AM   #271
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Thank you for the info. I had a hard time finding a way of comparing info on different pad types. Hawk gas a nice graph but I couldn’t find mu info ( understood it’s hard to compare mu between brands, but just as a general information). I couldn’t seem to find anything on ferodo. Ebc Doesn’t seem to list info either. This thread is great, but it’s so big it’s impossible to read the whole thing .
Here is Ferodo.
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Here is Ferodo.
Nice! Thank you
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      08-07-2019, 11:33 AM   #273
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Nice! Thank you
Shoot us a PM or email if you have more specific questions regarding Ferodo brake pads.
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      08-07-2019, 12:37 PM   #274
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just one more data point of EBC yellow on my M240i:

After ONE track day at laguna seca (seven 20 minute sessions), the pads are gone. I mean, from new (12mm) to 4mm left. still can drive home with them though

These pads are just NOT for track use on our cars (too heavy)

Now I'm trying to find a racing pad that still can be driven on the street, but it seems like a tough job.. (do not want my car to sound like a train every time i come to a stop)
As someone who just switched from OEMs to EBC yellows this is concerning... I got 2 track days and 18k miles out of my OEM pads before switching to EBC yellows last month. Haven't had the chance to take my car to Laguna since the switch,
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      08-18-2019, 10:43 PM   #275
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As someone who just switched from OEMs to EBC yellows this is concerning... I got 2 track days and 18k miles out of my OEM pads before switching to EBC yellows last month. Haven't had the chance to take my car to Laguna since the switch,
if you are a slower driver, the yellows will be fine for light track duty. Don't expect miracles, they fade like every other pad if you cook them.

Run PFC08 for track days, yellows on street and light stuff.
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if you are a slower driver, the yellows will be fine for light track duty. Don't expect miracles, they fade like every other pad if you cook them.

Run PFC08 for track days, yellows on street and light stuff.
Exactly. Best to have dedicated pads for track days and then back to street pads for normal driving.

It's quick and easy to swap out the pads in these cars. If you have dedicated wheels (with tires mounted) for track days, you can do the wheel swap and brake pad change all at the same time.
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      09-16-2019, 05:55 PM   #277
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I'm looking to replace my front stock brake pads with something slightly better and considering the Hawk Performance HPS 5.0. I'm not sure if they will fit my 2016 M235i.

The spreadsheet at the start of this thread does not show a part number for the fronts (is this intentional?), which appears to be HB765B.664.

The Hawk Performance website lists the 2014-2015 M235i but not 2016. Does anyone know if there was change for 2016 that would cause this? I wonder if this is just oversight on their part.

Thanks!
Update: Neither Hawk Performance nor the online supplier could confirm fit but I went ahead anyway. I had them installed today and they do fit. I updated the spreadsheet.
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I managed to crumble my PFC08s.
There were loose chunks so I threw them out as I wasn't confident using them again.




These cars really need some cooling if you are going to push the brakes hard, or at least remove the backing plates which I didn't do.

My local track is reasonably tough on brakes with three big braking zones in a ~66 second lap. I was running up to 20 minute sessions.

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Anybody have a good recommendation for street pads? Looking for low dust and better braking power when used spiritedly on good back roads/mountain roads. I’ve narrowed it down to Stoptech Sport and EBC Redstuff. Open to other suggestions as well.
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Anybody have a good recommendation for street pads? Looking for low dust and better braking power when used spiritedly on good back roads/mountain roads. I’ve narrowed it down to Stoptech Sport and EBC Redstuff. Open to other suggestions as well.
If you didn't take time to check the earlier pages, Porterfield R4-S & Stoptech Sport were suggested.
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If you didn't take time to check the earlier pages, Porterfield R4-S & Stoptech Sport were suggested.
Yep, sure did! Even considered the Carbotech 1521.
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Sure, can not wait to go to the next track day with these racing pads for the first time! Will definitely report the results
OK, time to report back about the PFC08 after two track days at Laguna and Sonoma. They are just awesome. No fade at all throughout all sessions. No visible clue of being worn at all after two days. You just can brake as hard as you dare not worrying about it giving up.

Cons:
* will destroy your tires easily
* still creating a lot of heat, kept colorizing my front calipers towards darker green
* very loud when hot on the street, like a dumping truck. I'm seriously less willing to drive it daily now.
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I managed to crumble my PFC08s.
There were loose chunks so I threw them out as I wasn't confident using them again.
wow, how many track days did you get before this?
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Cons: * will destroy your tires easily
That's because you're running too much pad for your tire. The two need to be reasonably matched for you to experience maximum braking effect.
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wow, how many track days did you get before this?
3 half days.
111 laps total.
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Cons: * will destroy your tires easily
That's because you're running too much pad for your tire. The two need to be reasonably matched for you to experience maximum braking effect.
That's true. I ran ps4s and re71r on these pads. Never felt too much tire
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