Debating to jump into an M2C

1LegitM235i · 08-14-2018, 01:59 PM

Over the weekend I have an opportunity drop a deposit for an M2C. It is still up for grabs and it's killing me if I should trade in my M235i. My dilemma is, jump on it now and lose out on the money I've put in on my M235i or just wait when my car is paid off and the M2C are less expensive and buy it then? In need of some words of wisdom and advice what I should do.

Sportstick · 08-14-2018, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 1LegitM235i

Over the weekend I have an opportunity drop a deposit for an M2C. It is still up for grabs and it's killing me if I should trade in my M235i. My dilemma is, jump on it now and lose out on the money I've put in on my M235i or just wait when my car is paid off and the M2C are less expensive and buy it then? In need of some words of wisdom and advice what I should do.

How bad/good are your roads? I don't recall yet reading an M2 review without the word "harsh".

Tony88 · 08-14-2018, 02:10 PM

My plan is pay off my M235, keep it for winter and buy a lightly used M2c in a couple years. I just think that'll be the smartest thing to do in my situation.

PLF69 · 08-14-2018, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 1LegitM235i

Over the weekend I have an opportunity drop a deposit for an M2C. It is still up for grabs and it's killing me if I should trade in my M235i. My dilemma is, jump on it now and lose out on the money I've put in on my M235i or just wait when my car is paid off and the M2C are less expensive and buy it then? In need of some words of wisdom and advice what I should do.

Well if you buy now, you will pay full premium because new model etc.

But from my observation of used M2's locally unless you don't really care about the configuration of the car it can be quite a challenge to find what you want in the used market so if this as value for you maybe buying new is better than looking at a car your supposed to love and always thinking about how you would like it even more in a different color..

dsmclone · 08-14-2018, 02:24 PM

New cars never make financial sense but if you have everything in order, pull the trigger.

BEM-S4 · 08-14-2018, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony88

My plan is pay off my M235, keep it for winter and buy a lightly used M2c in a couple years. I just think that'll be the smartest thing to do in my situation.

Too similar for me. My long term thoughts are keep the F23 then trade the X5 on an X3 M40 or whatever they're calling that thing.

WolfGTI · 08-14-2018, 02:45 PM

As much as I like the M2/M2C aggressive look, I'll keep my 240i because at this point straight line speed is about the same and the difference handling for a daily driver isn't enough for changing cars, in about in about 3 years I'll get a full M or a P car - with a 3rd pedal.

babaikram · 08-14-2018, 02:49 PM

Trading a car on finance to buy another finance would always lead to loss of money unless you are trading in for a much cheaper car. Trading in a car on finance to buy a used car on finance usually result into a less loss of money. So you should wait until you pay off your m235i.

However, buying a car is an emotional rather than financial issue. If you could really afford it, buy it. You only live once

hwntime · 08-14-2018, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by babaikram

Trading a car on finance to buy another finance would always lead to loss of money unless you are trading in for a much cheaper car. Trading in a car of finance to buy a used car on finance usually result into a less loss of money. So you should wait until you should pay off your m235i.

However, buying a car is an emotional rather than financial issue. If you could really afford it, buy it. You only live once

The exception is if you got a great deal and have equity in your financed car. This happens when you get a good deal on a used car and walk away from the deal in the plus.

bimmerfile · 08-14-2018, 03:32 PM

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Too similar for me. My long term thoughts are keep the F23 then trade the X5 on an X3 M40 or whatever they're calling that thing.

Keeping my '16 F23 'til the next gen 4er (G22) ragtop comes out. I need the extra back seat legroom for the growing grandkids.

tennisfreak · 08-14-2018, 03:44 PM

I'm debating the same thing.

If I have any more problems with my Dinan Stage 1 tune on my M240i, I think I will be trading in for an M2C.

babaikram · 08-14-2018, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by babaikram

Trading a car on finance to buy another finance would always lead to loss of money unless you are trading in for a much cheaper car. Trading in a car of finance to buy a used car on finance usually result into a less loss of money. So you should wait until you should pay off your m235i.

However, buying a car is an emotional rather than financial issue. If you could really afford it, buy it. You only live once

The exception is if you got a great deal and have equity in your financed car. This happens when you get a good deal on a used car and walk away from the deal in the plus.

That is correct especially if the financial deal on the first car is hire purchase. It is unusual for PCP deals (lease in US) to have equity except with hefty deposits or at the tail end of the deal

Luftwaffe1O1 · 08-14-2018, 04:03 PM

If financially its not a big burden id say go for it. Realistically it makes more sense to wait a little until the prices have settled etc. But hey you know your financial situation best, overall I think the M2C is definitely more punch than just the regular M2.

morphomeman · 08-14-2018, 04:10 PM

Almost every review of the M2 mentions the overly harsh ride. The most recent Motor Trend says to get an M240 instead, same handling, same speed, more comfort. For the long term as a DD, I would stick with the 235, and the finances of switching are way out of whack.
You can reserve the M2 for car porn.

PLF69 · 08-14-2018, 04:50 PM

The M2 and now M2C seems to be a very different experience between someone who daily drives it or just uses it as a week-end car..

BEM-S4 · 08-14-2018, 05:00 PM

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Too similar for me. My long term thoughts are keep the F23 then trade the X5 on an X3 M40 or whatever they're calling that thing.

Keeping my '16 F23 'til the next gen 4er (G22) ragtop comes out. I need the extra back seat legroom for the growing grandkids.

Yep - if your needs change that makes a lot of sense. The F23 is a bit better performance wise but if you can't enjoy it with the grandchildren and that's a big part of the fun you then it's a good move.

Neophyte · 08-14-2018, 05:35 PM

Seeing that you still have more fun to squeeze out of the m235, just wait until they release an improved CS or CSL version.

XutvJet · 08-14-2018, 06:14 PM

I love my M235 but the M2C is bonkers and my dream 2 series. I'd order an M2C right now but most everyone will be paying a $10k+ mark up on these cars for at least the first year, just like they did on the first M2. If you can get one for MSRP, do it, but I'd think you'll be paying closer to $70K USD to get this car in 2018 and 2019. There's going to be a huge demand. The car is great but not worth $65-70K.

ianp622 · 08-14-2018, 09:09 PM

If you aren't married to the concept of a "true" M car, then you'll have a comparable driving experience by getting the LSD and a tune. Maybe the LCA swap if you're feeling adventurous. The M2C doesn't have the adaptive suspension which for me is a big drawback.

WolfGTI · 08-15-2018, 07:30 AM

Exactly - I have the LSD and tune, next up camber / caster adjustable plates and the LCA swap.

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If you aren't married to the concept of a "true" M car, then you'll have a comparable driving experience by getting the LSD and a tune. Maybe the LCA swap if you're feeling adventurous. The M2C doesn't have the adaptive suspension which for me is a big drawback.

Sportstick · 08-15-2018, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ianp622

If you aren't married to the concept of a "true" M car, then you'll have a comparable driving experience by getting the LSD and a tune. Maybe the LCA swap if you're feeling adventurous. The M2C doesn't have the adaptive suspension which for me is a big drawback.

I did the LCA swap as well with the kit from Turner. Best single mod I've done! Really makes the 2'er "slot car" fun! I don't think it's such an "adventurous" move...dealer did it for me easily and no issues.

Maynard · 08-15-2018, 08:05 AM

I think that, unless you are on track (or European quality roads) the non-M's have better real-world handling. They have more compliant suspensions, and can hold the road even when it isn't super smooth; even more so w/ the adaptive suspension. I'm also skeptical about the impending markup-fury, since the M2C is basically replacing the M2; it had seemed to me that they were starting to saturate the market with the M2's already, in part b/c of this very minimal increment in performance over the 240. Nonetheless, a very good sign that they are moving in the direction of lighter/tighter, rather than more luxurious and smooooth (ditto for the early reads on the new 3-series, but that may just be hype).

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Tony88 Private First Class 45 Rep 109 Posts Drives: M235ix Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Fairbanks, AK iTrader: (0)	My plan is pay off my M235, keep it for winter and buy a lightly used M2c in a couple years. I just think that'll be the smartest thing to do in my situation.
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Luftwaffe1O1 Lieutenant 230 Rep 555 Posts Drives: M235i, 2000 Z3 Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: San Diego, CA iTrader: (0)	If financially its not a big burden id say go for it. Realistically it makes more sense to wait a little until the prices have settled etc. But hey you know your financial situation best, overall I think the M2C is definitely more punch than just the regular M2. __________________
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Maynard Colonel 3848 Rep 2,873 Posts Drives: 228iX & M2C Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Upstate NY iTrader: (1)	I think that, unless you are on track (or European quality roads) the non-M's have better real-world handling. They have more compliant suspensions, and can hold the road even when it isn't super smooth; even more so w/ the adaptive suspension. I'm also skeptical about the impending markup-fury, since the M2C is basically replacing the M2; it had seemed to me that they were starting to saturate the market with the M2's already, in part b/c of this very minimal increment in performance over the 240. Nonetheless, a very good sign that they are moving in the direction of lighter/tighter, rather than more luxurious and smooooth (ditto for the early reads on the new 3-series, but that may just be hype).
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