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Pretty much the same numbers as the 2014 M235i they tested.
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For comparison this is the M235i Instrument test: Manual Zero to 60 mph: 4.9 sec Zero to 100 mph: 11.7 sec Zero to 130 mph: 20.7 sec Zero to 150 mph: 31.5 sec Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 5.8 sec Top gear, 30-50 mph: 6.8 sec Top gear, 50-70 mph: 6.0 sec Standing ¼-mile: 13.4 sec @ 106 mph Top speed (governor limited): 155 mph Braking, 70-0 mph: 153 ft Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.92 g Automatic Zero to 60 mph: 4.3 sec Zero to 100 mph: 10.8 sec Zero to 130 mph: 19.6 sec Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 5.1 sec Top gear, 30-50 mph: 2.6 sec Top gear, 50-70 mph: 3.1 sec Standing ¼-mile: 12.9 sec @ 109 mph Top speed (governor limited): 155 mph Braking, 70-0 mph: 153 ft Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.94 g |
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And just so I can feel better about my "slowly" M235 6MT , this is the best instrumented test of a M235 6MT thus far:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.6 sec Zero to 100 mph: 11.2 sec Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 5.5 sec Standing ¼-mile: 13.4 sec @ 107 mph Where the 6MT cars suffer the most is in 0-40mph performance. With an auto, you can build boost for the launch. With a manual, you can't. It's far easier to bog or roast the tires on launch with a 6MT. If all you care about are 1/4 mile time, then simply strap on a set of 8" wide slicks, rev up to 5000rpms, and do a quick clutch slip launch. The 6MT car will easily go upper 12s@108-109mph with added traction and ability to launch far harder to overcome the lack of an on-boost launch. Last edited by XutvJet; 10-05-2016 at 11:24 AM.. |
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10-05-2016, 01:25 PM | #31 |
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I wouldn't drive one but I must admit with the black grilles and wheels the white looked pretty awesome with the red interior. That said I think the black top helps a lot (at least if you don't love white cars).
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10-05-2016, 02:11 PM | #32 |
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If you're buying a new M240i, chances are, you can afford the M2. The price point difference between the two is a fairly weak argument to me
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It depends a lot on how you option the cars and how you plan to use them. If I were to spec out an m2, I'd add the exec package (because I like a backup camera) and DCT (because I prefer automatics). Okay, so I'm up to a car with an MSRP of around $57K. I did Euro delivery of my '15 M235 (with an 8AT and a backup camera, among other options) for just under $40K. So, right off the bat, for me, there would likely be a $17K difference. Someone might say, 'You could ED an M2 and shave off a couple thousand.' Maybe, maybe not. Even if that were possible, the difference would still be $14k. Would I get $14k more enjoyment out of an M2 than my car? Well, I haven't driven an M2 yet, but I doubt it. I don't track, and, from what I understand, in normal driving conditions there's not a huge difference in performance. |
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Maybe, just maybe, they found it boring aesthetically because they got your run of the mill white outside with black inside and aluminum trim. Every vehicle, no matter the manufacturer, would feel like sh*t with such a combination. I'm amazed people pay money for it. Clearly they do because every car in the inventory at every luxury maker's dealerships is equipped with these plain jane color combinations.
Personally, I would go with Estoril blue/brown or a white/black outside on red/brown interior. Top it off with some classy wood. Anyhow, this car looks impressive but a well-equipped ///M2 is just a few grand more. Only downside of the ///M2 is being forced to get the ugly cave-like black interior. |
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In my case, m2 would be my last BMW no doubt, unless there is a next gen RWD m2.
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Damn m240i or 440 with the MPPSK for me next year, not an easy choice. M2 hell of car, I would get it if they had more available like that.
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IMHO, such comparison review should be done with 2 cars driven back to back.
Most of things are very well said except that I really doubt m240 feel any lighter than m2 under whatever chassis load, if my back to back driving experience of 235 and m2 is any indication. Light is a close thing to agile and responsive, I thought C/D mistook it for comfort when exaggerating m240's daily driveability. Though I am biased of course.
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My "Indie" BMW tech, who's been BMW Master Certified for some time, truly thinks that the M235i/240i is a breed of an "M" car, to a degree. He simply said BMW doesn't make M models without them being special or different to some effect (unlike a 235i with M package, which is usually just cosmetic). He said this car is a "special breed, and we're lucky to even have the option to have such a model loaded this way from the factory (adaptive M suspension, Brembo brakes, yada yada yada)". Branding is a big part of it, and this is still the only BMW M***i model in existence (to the best of my knowledge) so it is unique in it's own way.. There is the 335i/435i with MSport package etc, but it's not the same thing, in his opinion. The fact that BMW branded the car with an M first, means something, somewhere on the line..
I told him that I don't like to speak "M" language with the car because I feel it's not a full on M model and I don't want to seem like a poser. His response was " that's foolish, but this is the only model of it's kind, and it's going to get some push back from the M community". He owns two e46 M3's one is a vert for his wife and the other is a prepped track car, fwiw.. So many opinions.. I'm taking my badges off of the back, sick of explaining this shit to everyone around my neck of the woods (rare BMW sightings lol). D
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i second the suggestion of you driving them both back-to-back |
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