[AUSf22]

Most likely will make the change to the LCI M2 in a few years time, not quite there financially at the moment. Hopefully the prices come down a bit when I'm ready to purchase

[MikeVictor]

We should get this thread merged with the M2 thread I reckon...

[den525]

Originally Posted by Alpine*

And if this is true, they will be up sh1t creek without a paddle. Just look at carsales, there are a couple almost brand new M4s there loaded, waaaaay above what an M2 can or will ever be, for $145k ish. Chase a bit of a discount, add on roads and it's like maybe $15k more than that MAYBE M2 figure.

Aside from the fact I am disappointed in the lack of individual options, the price gap between the old M3 to a 1M was circa $50,000 and now it's potentially only $20-30k. If you are ok with the size variance and can afford a few more $ per month the bigger car seems ATM to me to be the smarter car........ Now how much was azure black with Sakhir interior again...........

Can't really compare it to a 2nd hand one...

M3 base price before ORC is 140k and M4 150k. That's before LCT as well... So M3/M4 you're looking at $160k-$170k.

OBVIOUSLY this is also before discounts, which applies to M2 as well.

Ps. 1M cost $120k-$130k driveaway brand new.

[Alpine*]

Originally Posted by den525

Can't really compare it to a 2nd hand one...

M3 base price before ORC is 140k and M4 150k. That's before LCT as well... So M3/M4 you're looking at $160k-$170k.

OBVIOUSLY this is also before discounts, which applies to M2 as well.

Ps. 1M cost $120k-$130k driveaway brand new.

You can compare a car that has 150ks on it to a new lesser model, many people do.

Guarantee you will get a bigger discount on an M3 or 4. An M3 base MY16 car is loaded with most of. The kit you could want, full leather, hud, LED headlights circa $15k of options in the new base price. You will get a new M3 for $140k drive away easy.

Re the 1M, clearly you never bought one new, they were $99,900 + option and on roads. Most were circa $112 to $118 drive away, metalic paint being the most expensive of the 4-5 options that were available.

[den525]

Originally Posted by Alpine*

You can compare a car that has 150ks on it to a new lesser model, many people do.

Guarantee you will get a bigger discount on an M3 or 4. An M3 base MY16 car is loaded with most of. The kit you could want, full leather, hud, LED headlights circa $15k of options in the new base price. You will get a new M3 for $140k drive away easy.

Re the 1M, clearly you never bought one new, they were $99,900 + option and on roads. Most were circa $112 to $118 drive away, metalic paint being the most expensive of the 4-5 options that were available.

Ok... The new base price is $140k... So it's $140k driveaway as well?

Plus I have a 1M in my household lol

[Alpine*]

Originally Posted by den525

Ok... The new base price is $140k... So it's $140k driveaway as well?

Plus I have a 1M in my household lol

I have qtes at $140 drive away on an M3.

I bought two new 1Ms, yeh I know their pricing, just sayin.

[BMWRX]

True story, M3's are being offered at $140k drive away. I got offered that after a less than inspiring M235i test drive.

[05C4R]

Originally Posted by den525

Plus I have a 1M in my household lol

then they saw you coming


m3/m4 are a very attractive option, so much faster then a 1M, actually crazy fast, they have full leather dash with deviated stitching and carbon inserts, cameras all over the thing, carbon roof, i could go on

i agree with Alpine

[WAY]

Originally Posted by den525

Ok... The new base price is $140k... So it's $140k driveaway as well?

Plus I have a 1M in my household lol

Depends on what state you're in and when you are buying. For example QLD is $2.4k cheaper than Victoria. Also currently there are factory bonuses on 3 series so it reduces the price of the car. If you order a car now the dealer will not be able to factor that bonus into account as they wont know what will be offered in 3 months time when the car turns up. The reason why BMW has bonuses is because they are so far down Merc this year that they are trying to win a bit more market share. With the recent price reduction and everything else, this will not continue into the future. So if you want a M3, buy one now that is on the floor. MY16 LCI cars have started turning up and there are some available.

[Alpine*]

Now.... Where did I put my crystal ball(s), never find it when I want one

[den525]

Originally Posted by beemer

then they saw you coming


m3/m4 are a very attractive option, so much faster then a 1M, actually crazy fast, they have full leather dash with deviated stitching and carbon inserts, cameras all over the thing, carbon roof, i could go on

i agree with Alpine

Huh?

[05C4R]

Originally Posted by den525

Huh?

that if you paid 130k for a 1M then the sales person would have taken you for a ride as they would have seen you.... ahh fuck it i'm too tired its all good

[den525]

Originally Posted by beemer

that if you paid 130k for a 1M then the sales person would have taken you for a ride as they would have seen you.... ahh fuck it i'm too tired its all good

Didn't pay 130k. But some did

[david.orr]

Originally Posted by den525

Ok... The new base price is $140k... So it's $140k driveaway as well?

Plus I have a 1M in my household lol

My 1M was $105k OTR. What did your flat mate pay for his?

[den525]

Originally Posted by 1M235i

My 1M was $105k OTR. What did your flat mate pay for his?

$119k.

but it's safe to assume you didn't buy yours at the start and more towards the end?

[Cpdbeemer]

Originally Posted by Alpine*

Now.... Where did I put my crystal ball(s), never find it when I want one

Steel balls are better.

[david.orr]

Originally Posted by den525

$119k.

but it's safe to assume you didn't buy yours at the start and more towards the end?

haha you do seem very confident of your views den i'm not the first 100 delivered but still early enuff. if you know the 1M supply back then and others like WAY Alpine etc would attest, dealers didn't have to give any discount nor had any difficulty selling all cars. The last Trivett VO sat on the floor for a while because they were asking for $130+ and I know the guy who finally bought it. my $105k was a special price but was still pretty on the mark for most people who paid $110ish. In case you haven't been a 1Addict regular, a good number of 1M owners paid less than $110k but then claimed otherwise when they were selling their cars. I have better than good memory

[den525]

Originally Posted by 1M235i

haha you do seem very confident of your views den i'm not the first 100 delivered but still early enuff. if you know the 1M supply back then and others like WAY Alpine etc would attest, dealers didn't have to give any discount nor had any difficulty selling all cars. The last Trivett VO sat on the floor for a while because they were asking for $130+ and I know the guy who finally bought it. my $105k was a special price but was still pretty on the mark for most people who paid $110ish. In case you haven't been a 1Addict regular, a good number of 1M owners paid less than $110k but then claimed otherwise when they were selling their cars. I have better than good memory

i guess my mate got ripped off lol

[david.orr]

Originally Posted by den525

i guess my mate got ripped off lol

i don't think so. irrespective of the variations in pricing, Oz 1M owners all had good deals relative to M3 pricing back then. no one should complain. would have been better deal if resale pricing followed US trending!

compared to 1M/M3 pricing, M2/M3/M4 relative pricing may see M3/M4 having the better deal this time. time would tell

[den525]

Originally Posted by 1M235i

i don't think so. irrespective of the variations in pricing, Oz 1M owners all had good deals relative to M3 pricing back then. no one should complain. would have been better deal if resale pricing followed US trending!

compared to 1M/M3 pricing, M2/M3/M4 relative pricing may see M3/M4 having the better deal this time. time would tell

That's true, but yea Australia don't seem to be following US' trend of 1M resale price skyrocketing. BUT it's not dropping as quickly as other cars eg. 135i or M3.

Apart from M2/M3/M4 relative pricing, I see a lot more competition in this segment compared with the 1M release. Mercedes didn't have a A45 AMG, and Audi didn't release the previous RS3 generation to Australia.

The closest thing back then was the TTRS.

Competition will force BMW to make deals across the board. Never thought I could get a M235i for cheaper than a A45... So yea lol