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      02-19-2017, 10:00 PM   #1
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The brake pad thread

Welcome to the brake pad thread for all bmw m performance brakes, "Blue Calipers"
Many cars including the newer x40's can use the pads listed in this thread.

Thank you for reading through the posts before making a recommendation or asking a question. If you used some advice from this thread, give it a like, or some rep.

As of 4/1/17:
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Please add pads and part numbers you find that are not included in this list.
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These are the ones I found:

Race:
Pagid RS29
PFC08 (I believe the 991 Cup comes with these)
Porterfield R4

Hybrid (street/track):
EBC Yellow stuff

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Stoptech sport
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can you gather the part numbers and where you found them, etc?


Will a 228i with M-sport brakes work on a m235?
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can you gather the part numbers and where you found them, etc?


Will a 228i with M-sport brakes work on a m235?
These are some links to the R4 and R4s but couldn't find much about part n#s

http://www.hpashop.com/Porterfield-R...x-standard.htm

http://www.hpashop.com/Porterfield-R...x-standard.htm

I believe the m-sport brakes are the same, option on the 228 and standard on the M-235
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If our sponsors would like to chime in on this thread, I will update the list with your site.
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m235 Front and Rear Pads are same as these other cars according to EBC:



Make Model Submodel Engine
BMW E90 325i N52 3.0L
BMW E90 325xi N52 3.0L
BMW E90 328i N52 3.0L
BMW E90 328xi N52 3.0L
BMW E90 330i N52 3.0L
BMW E90 330xi N52 3.0L
BMW E90 335d M57 3.0L
BMW E90 335i N54 3.0L
BMW E90 335i N55 3.0L
BMW E90 335xi N54 3.0L
BMW E90 335xi N55 3.0L
BMW E91 325xi N52 3.0L
BMW E91 328i N52 3.0L
BMW E91 328xi N52 3.0L
BMW E92 328i N52 3.0L
BMW E92 328xi N52 3.0L
BMW E92 335i N54 3.0L
BMW E92 335i N55 3.0L
BMW E92 335is N54 3.0L
BMW E92 335xi N54 3.0L
BMW E92 335xi N55 3.0L
BMW E93 328Ci All
BMW E93 328i N52 3.0L
BMW E93 335i N54 3.0L
BMW E93 335i N55 3.0L
BMW E93 335is N54 3.0L
BMW F30 320i N20 2.0L
BMW F30 320i xDrive N20 2.0L
BMW F30 328d N47 2.0L
BMW F30 328d xDrive N47 2.0L
BMW F30 328i N20 2.0L
BMW F30 328i xDrive N20 2.0L
BMW F30 335i N55 3.0L
BMW F30 335i xDrive N55 3.0L
BMW F30 340i B58 3.0L
BMW F30 340i xDrive B58 3.0L
BMW F30 ActiveHybrid 3 N55 3.0L
BMW F80 M3 S55 3.0L
BMW F82 M4 S55 3.0L
BMW F83 M4 S55 3.0L
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Great idea bryan_f22.

I'd also be interested in hearing from others who have run different pads if they throw less dust than the stock pads!

So much dust!
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I think these are another option too... 1609 and 1656 are the pad sizes on the F80 which are the same as the 2

http://www.ctbrakes.com/pads.asp?Make=BMW&Model=M3
http://www.ctbrakes.com/brake-compounds2.asp

BMW Year Compounds
M3 2014-2015 1521 AX6 XP8 XP10 XP12 XP20 XP24 RP2
F80 Chassis - w/Iron Discs* F: CT1609A $251 $264 $277 $291 $305 $336 $357 $320
F80 Chassis - w/Iron Discs* R: CT1656 $234 $250 $265 $279 $293 $323 $342 $307

Maybe the sheet could be uploaded to googledocs so it can be downloaded...
Also might be useful to sort the pads by use case so all the similar pads are together on the list...
and adding a price range might be helpful too to have an idea of what would be the total damage
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spreadsheet now on google docs, please see if you can access.
Everyone should be able to view and edit.

I also purchased the PFC08's through my contacts, should be available in 2 weeks and will fit Msport brakes (i was told).
I will update with part numbers once I have them.
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No experience in this car, yet. But I can vouch on the PFC-08 pad, as being a great endurance pad, with a great operating range, and ability to swap back to factory pads without the need to swap rotors.

I ran the PFC-08's on 370mm 4 pot TT-RS Brembo fronts combined with Carbotech XP-10's on the rear and it was the best road track setup I've ever used.

I plan to do the same or similar on the M235i if not the Pagid's or Race Technologies LLC RE10's. All great pads, just some dialing in to be done when it comes to vehicle weight and distribution. For example, on the TT-RS setup, I had the 370mm rotor up front and RS6 335mm rear rotors. This rear rotor upgrade allowed me to run a pad with more initial "bite" to balance the "nose dive" effect from having a heavy duty brake system up front. If I ran the PFC-08's all around, I would probably run into the nose-dive effect again, as the front will absorb most of the inertia and take the grunt of the brake load. With a more aggressive pad in the rear, it moves the bias slightly rearward and helps alleviate that issue. Hope that makes sense?

The only $.02 I can apply at the moment, lol
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No experience in this car, yet. But I can vouch on the PFC-08 pad, as being a great endurance pad, with a great operating range, and ability to swap back to factory pads without the need to swap rotors.

I ran the PFC-08's on 370mm 4 pot TT-RS Brembo fronts combined with Carbotech XP-10's on the rear and it was the best road track setup I've ever used.

I plan to do the same or similar on the M235i if not the Pagid's or Race Technologies LLC RE10's. All great pads, just some dialing in to be done when it comes to vehicle weight and distribution. For example, on the TT-RS setup, I had the 370mm rotor up front and RS6 335mm rear rotors. This rear rotor upgrade allowed me to run a pad with more initial "bite" to balance the "nose dive" effect from having a heavy duty brake system up front. If I ran the PFC-08's all around, I would probably run into the nose-dive effect again, as the front will absorb most of the inertia and take the grunt of the brake load. With a more aggressive pad in the rear, it moves the bias slightly rearward and helps alleviate that issue. Hope that makes sense?

The only $.02 I can apply at the moment, lol
Probably helps with late braking and minimizing under steer with the AWD too.

I usually run a less aggressive pad in the back for RWD. I didn't do that with the 235i though. Pagid on all 4 felt great.
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I added some Pagid info to the sheet.
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I'm gonna throw my hat in for the EBC Yellowstuffs.

They are very respectable HPDE pads and are completely tolerable on the street (some low speed low pressure breaking in stop and go has a little squeal) once they are properly bedded.

Yes, PCF-08's or Carbotechs or Porterfields are better race pads, absolutely, but they cannot be driven on the street. These can be (quite comfortably). And they will stand up to some seriously heavy abuse on track with the right brake fluid (I run Torque RT700, but any high temp fluid will do -- ATE, Gastrol, Endless, etc.).

Also, they aren't terribly expensive. Highly recommend.
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I'm gonna throw my hat in for the EBC Yellowstuffs.

They are very respectable HPDE pads and are completely tolerable on the street (some low speed low pressure breaking in stop and go has a little squeal) once they are properly bedded.

Yes, PCF-08's or Carbotechs or Porterfields are better race pads, absolutely, but they cannot be driven on the street. These can be (quite comfortably). And they will stand up to some seriously heavy abuse on track with the right brake fluid (I run Torque RT700, but any high temp fluid will do -- ATE, Gastrol, Endless, etc.).

Also, they aren't terribly expensive. Highly recommend.
Yes. That's what I'm thinking. I want something better than the stock pads that did ok but that I can use through the season without having to swap pads for every event. I have enough swapping the Kosei's already.

And I can get the ebc yellow for $230 shipped which is less than half the price as the pagid

A bit off topic but anybody have seen the new hankook RS4? Might switch to those once the RE-71r are don
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I'm gonna throw my hat in for the EBC Yellowstuffs.

They are very respectable HPDE pads and are completely tolerable on the street (some low speed low pressure breaking in stop and go has a little squeal) once they are properly bedded.

Yes, PCF-08's or Carbotechs or Porterfields are better race pads, absolutely, but they cannot be driven on the street. These can be (quite comfortably). And they will stand up to some seriously heavy abuse on track with the right brake fluid (I run Torque RT700, but any high temp fluid will do -- ATE, Gastrol, Endless, etc.).

Also, they aren't terribly expensive. Highly recommend.
I think the yellow stuff would be OK for autocross, but i would not recommend them for a road course event.

I'm talking purely from a pad fade perspective.
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I'm gonna throw my hat in for the EBC Yellowstuffs.

They are very respectable HPDE pads and are completely tolerable on the street (some low speed low pressure breaking in stop and go has a little squeal) once they are properly bedded.

Yes, PCF-08's or Carbotechs or Porterfields are better race pads, absolutely, but they cannot be driven on the street. These can be (quite comfortably). And they will stand up to some seriously heavy abuse on track with the right brake fluid (I run Torque RT700, but any high temp fluid will do -- ATE, Gastrol, Endless, etc.).

Also, they aren't terribly expensive. Highly recommend.
I think the yellow stuff would be OK for autocross, but i would not recommend them for a road course event.

I'm talking purely from a pad fade perspective.
I've ran them at Buttonwillow several times - they're fine re : pad fade for non-competitive road course use.
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I've ran them at Buttonwillow several times - they're fine re : pad fade for non-competitive road course use.
I'll vouch for these pads as well. Run them at several HPDEs including brake heavy COTA. Slight squeal occasionally on the street.

Will dust heavily after hard breaking. The red stuff (ceramic) keep my wheels much cleaner.
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I'll vouch for these pads as well. Run them at several HPDEs including brake heavy COTA. Slight squeal occasionally on the street.

Will dust heavily after hard breaking. The red stuff (ceramic) keep my wheels much cleaner.
Agreed on the squeal and dusting. Personally I don't care about brake dust (badge of honor for using "good" brake pads), but I totally understand those who want super clean wheels. However, the first thing you normally have to give up for "good" brake pads is the dusting unless you get carbon ceramic pads/rotors.
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Agreed on the squeal and dusting. Personally I don't care about brake dust (badge of honor for using "good" brake pads), but I totally understand those who want super clean wheels. However, the first thing you normally have to give up for "good" brake pads is the dusting unless you get carbon ceramic pads/rotors.
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I use wheel wax between wheel cleanings

http://www.autogeek.net/wheelwax.html

I ran the stock OEM sports, and the EBC yellows so far on a far amount of HDPE's last year. About 20,000 street miles plus 6 days on each set... not bad. I like the EBC yellows and would use them again. They work great on the street. A little bit more initial bite than needed for regular daily driving/stop-n-go, but it's bearable. Some slight noise. But they stop good combined with ATE 200.
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I use wheel wax between wheel cleanings

http://www.autogeek.net/wheelwax.html

I ran the stock OEM sports, and the EBC yellows so far on a far amount of HDPE's last year. About 20,000 street miles plus 6 days on each set... not bad. I like the EBC yellows and would use them again. They work great on the street. A little bit more initial bite than needed for regular daily driving/stop-n-go, but it's bearable. Some slight noise. But they stop good combined with ATE 200.
I think they are the best street option with Motul 600, but i'm still looking for a track pad that dosent fade as much. Ill et you know how the PFC 08 work out.

Im going to try them for DD and track.
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