Things I HATE about my 2 series

jgalaxy · 02-26-2020, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CodySyd

-- You can turn this off with Bimmercode

-- It hates my Kiwi accent too! But Waze understands me every time so Apple Carplay is the way to go

-- Ahh comfort mode

-- If you only drive BMWs for 2 decades you get used to it xD

LOL. Sooo true. Great tips ... I really do love my M240 though.

jgalaxy · 02-26-2020, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by morriscat

This really makes me wonder what kind of coked up go-carts y'all have been driving that make a 2 feel lifeless by comparison. Mine changes direction like Doug seeing a squirrel.

HAHA! Well, not quite Doug, but I think you are on the right track.

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Originally Posted by Sportstick

A swap of M2 lower control arms from Turner Motorsports solves this very well!

Ugh. More mods. Yup. I was looking that up. That will fit the xDrive?

Sportstick · 02-26-2020, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jgalaxy

Ugh. More mods. Yup. I was looking that up. That will fit the xDrive?

Well, one less mod to worry about. No, it won’t fit xDrive. You should test drive a rwd car to feel the difference, even without the LCAs. Then, decide if xDrive is worth it next time. After I did an A/B comparison, I knew I wouldn’t want xDrive on my 2 all year long for the steering feel difference you described. Winter tires handled snow just fine for a few months.

cooolone2 · 02-26-2020, 09:22 PM

Adjustable Camber Plates will allow the same negative camber adjustment to sharpen the steering feel as an option for Xdrives.

Although maybe I'm just used to the extra weight upfront, from driving my E46 and other FWD cars, the steering doesn't bother me. No dead spot on highway either that's been commented on.

I'm curious if the steering rack can be swapped with the M2? They are different (part #'s) although I can't find any specs on them.

Still hating the lack of a Dipstick, lol and still hating the dumbed down HK Audio with lack of any freq. band adjustment.

jgalaxy · 02-27-2020, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sportstick

Well, one less mod to worry about. No, it won’t fit xDrive. You should test drive a rwd car to feel the difference, even without the LCAs. Then, decide if xDrive is worth it next time. After I did an A/B comparison, I knew I wouldn’t want xDrive on my 2 all year long for the steering feel difference you described. Winter tires handled snow just fine for a few months.

Yup. I kinda regret it a bit now ... But I have my E46M3 for the track so all is not lost.

morriscat · 02-28-2020, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jgalaxy

Yup. I kinda regret it a bit now ... But I have my E46M3 for the track so all is not lost.

We've had our first couple winter storms since I got my 2er so I've gotten to feel out what it's like to drive the RWD on (very) slick roads. Compared to our AWD Subaru it's just fine in every situation EXCEPT when you're trying to pull out from a stop sign or similar. AWD is a HUGE advantage when you need to try and get moving from a standstill on ice or snow. The rest of the time, the traction control and ABS handle everything just fine.

I still don't regret getting an RWD instead of an AWD though. The ~400hp '79 Buick I owned as a teenager was terrifying just on wet pavement. A modern RWD BMW is just mildly alarming by comparison.

Sportstick · 02-28-2020, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by morriscat

... AWD is a HUGE advantage when you need to try and get moving from a standstill on ice or snow.

Still a distant second to dedicated winter tires however...although having both is the very best one can do for winter.

jgalaxy · 02-28-2020, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by morriscat

We've had our first couple winter storms since I got my 2er so I've gotten to feel out what it's like to drive the RWD on (very) slick roads. Compared to our AWD Subaru it's just fine in every situation EXCEPT when you're trying to pull out from a stop sign or similar. AWD is a HUGE advantage when you need to try and get moving from a standstill on ice or snow. The rest of the time, the traction control and ABS handle everything just fine.

I still don't regret getting an RWD instead of an AWD though. The ~400hp '79 Buick I owned as a teenager was terrifying just on wet pavement. A modern RWD BMW is just mildly alarming by comparison.

Nothing like awd when bouncing around in the snow, but your right, for regular driving not issues with rwd. Yup, my Impala '81 had me leave a brown trace every once in a while as we headed to the the ski hills and had to turn back home because of the snow.

Fitz335 · 03-01-2020, 12:31 PM

+1 for these dumbass clothes hanger hooks, what the hell actually fits on them

dradernh · 03-01-2020, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Fitz335

+1 for these dumbass clothes hanger hooks, what the hell actually fits on them

Fishing line?

albertw · 03-01-2020, 08:53 PM

I like to ease off the brake for the last foot or two of a stop to let the front rise and make the cessation of motion imperceptible. It's not important, but it pleases me. My 240 is the most difficult car for this of any I've driven. The brakes seem to grab harder as the car stops and I find it very difficult to ease off just the right amount so I usually get a bit of a jerk just as the car stops. I'm planning to change to aftermarket brake pads to try to fix this when the originals wear out. Any suggestions?

morphomeman · 03-02-2020, 06:13 AM

The clothes hanger hooks are indeed terrible, but for a pittance, you can buy an aftermarket hook that clips onto the rod that holds the headrest. I have them on both my BMWs, including the X3, which has a decent hanger. These are much better and work very well. I can't give you a reference but they are easy to find online.

dradernh · 03-02-2020, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by morphomeman

The clothes hanger hooks are indeed terrible, but for a pittance, you can buy an aftermarket hook that clips onto the rod that holds the headrest. I have them on both my BMWs, including the X3, which has a decent hanger. These are much better and work very well. I can't give you a reference but they are easy to find online.

OEM solutions can be seen on this page: https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=03_1693.

personinma · 03-02-2020, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by albertw

I like to ease off the brake for the last foot or two of a stop to let the front rise and make the cessation of motion imperceptible. It's not important, but it pleases me. My 240 is the most difficult car for this of any I've driven. The brakes seem to grab harder as the car stops and I find it very difficult to ease off just the right amount so I usually get a bit of a jerk just as the car stops. I'm planning to change to aftermarket brake pads to try to fix this when the originals wear out. Any suggestions?

my goodness.. was wondering if it was just me or my car, but glad to hear there are others who are peeved by this also

Maynard · 03-02-2020, 11:09 AM

Try doing a bedding procedure on your current pads to see if that helps. I don't have those problems modulating brakes, but perhaps I'm not as particular? Factory pads should be the best for this, any aftermarkets are likely to trade 'good manners' for low dust, or sport-worthiness. I will say that these brakes are more direct than other brands (when I borrow more pedestrian cars), so it may also be a matter of getting your foot acclimated to this system.

morphomeman · 03-03-2020, 05:58 AM

Yes, there are OEM hangers, but they cost many times more than the little hooks I mentioned and are quite bulky. Whatever floats your boat.

Winemaker2 · 03-06-2020, 03:17 PM

I hate the Spring pollen in NorCal. Wash the car one day and leave it out for 10 minutes and it's green. Which leads me to what I hate about my BMW; the half inch the window goes down so the door will shut. I'm so anal that I take a feather duster and clear the window so the crud won't go down into the channel. Same thing with dust. Or a towel when the window is wet. Do I need psychological help?

Dylan86 · 03-06-2020, 03:21 PM

Hate that I still cant drive it for another 4-6 weeks

morphomeman · 03-06-2020, 03:44 PM

Winemaker: you are way beyond psychological help.
Lock him up! Lock him up!
I can understand your frustration, but I am not sure that hate is the right term here. It is hard to imagine that the folks at BMW could have imagined the scenario that has driven you to distraction.

Winemaker2 · 03-06-2020, 06:06 PM

Morph, I know, I know. I also make sure screw heads are perfectly aligned. You're right about using the term hate, but how could I transition into this thread. To be honest there isn't anything I "hate" about my BMW.

Sportstick · 03-06-2020, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Winemaker2

To be honest there isn't anything I "hate" about my BMW.

Scale for measuring opinions for the history of the world before Millennials:

Love it....Like it Alot....Like It Somewhat....It's OK....Dislike it Somewhat....Dislike it Alot....Hate It

Since Millennials:

Love it/It's Amazing..Hate It

jefe2000 · 03-06-2020, 08:34 PM

Been lurking here for several months. I think I'll be ready to move up to a 6MT M240i at the end of the year (currently driving a 2010 WRX 5MT hatch). I'll probably aim for a 2018 or newer — maybe a CPO.

This thread has been really great. I test drove an 8AT 2020 M240i coupe today. And, instead of being annoyed by things like the way-back-there seatbelt, double-press to turn off, double-pull on the door latch to unlock, and others, I knew to expect them. So, I had my expectations set instead of finding annoyances. I'm very thankful to y'all for that. It was a great test drive!

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cooolone2 Captain 625 Rep 706 Posts Drives: 20' M240iX B58, 01' 330XI E46 Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: NY, USA iTrader: (0)	Adjustable Camber Plates will allow the same negative camber adjustment to sharpen the steering feel as an option for Xdrives. Although maybe I'm just used to the extra weight upfront, from driving my E46 and other FWD cars, the steering doesn't bother me. No dead spot on highway either that's been commented on. I'm curious if the steering rack can be swapped with the M2? They are different (part #'s) although I can't find any specs on them. Still hating the lack of a Dipstick, lol and still hating the dumbed down HK Audio with lack of any freq. band adjustment.
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Fitz335 Second Lieutenant 17 Rep 249 Posts Drives: 2018 M240i Estoril Blue Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: VA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 335i [0.00]	+1 for these dumbass clothes hanger hooks, what the hell actually fits on them __________________ 2011 X1 2018 M240i Estoril Blue 2007 335i Jet Black 1992 Eagle Talon TSi
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albertw First Lieutenant 116 Rep 318 Posts Drives: M240i Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	I like to ease off the brake for the last foot or two of a stop to let the front rise and make the cessation of motion imperceptible. It's not important, but it pleases me. My 240 is the most difficult car for this of any I've driven. The brakes seem to grab harder as the car stops and I find it very difficult to ease off just the right amount so I usually get a bit of a jerk just as the car stops. I'm planning to change to aftermarket brake pads to try to fix this when the originals wear out. Any suggestions? __________________ 18 M240i RWD auto Previous: 01 Z06, 99 323i
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morphomeman Major 593 Rep 1,219 Posts Drives: 2015 M235ix Join Date: May 2015 Location: United States iTrader: (1) Garage List 2016 BMW X3 [0.00] 2015 BMW M235ix [0.00]	The clothes hanger hooks are indeed terrible, but for a pittance, you can buy an aftermarket hook that clips onto the rod that holds the headrest. I have them on both my BMWs, including the X3, which has a decent hanger. These are much better and work very well. I can't give you a reference but they are easy to find online.
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Maynard Colonel 3848 Rep 2,873 Posts Drives: 228iX & M2C Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Upstate NY iTrader: (1)	Try doing a bedding procedure on your current pads to see if that helps. I don't have those problems modulating brakes, but perhaps I'm not as particular? Factory pads should be the best for this, any aftermarkets are likely to trade 'good manners' for low dust, or sport-worthiness. I will say that these brakes are more direct than other brands (when I borrow more pedestrian cars), so it may also be a matter of getting your foot acclimated to this system.
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03-03-2020, 05:58 AM	#1182
morphomeman Major 593 Rep 1,219 Posts Drives: 2015 M235ix Join Date: May 2015 Location: United States iTrader: (1) Garage List 2016 BMW X3 [0.00] 2015 BMW M235ix [0.00]	Yes, there are OEM hangers, but they cost many times more than the little hooks I mentioned and are quite bulky. Whatever floats your boat.
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03-06-2020, 03:17 PM	#1183
Winemaker2 Second Lieutenant 62 Rep 204 Posts Drives: 2017 230i MSport THP Dinan V2 Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: SF East Bay, CA iTrader: (0)	I hate the Spring pollen in NorCal. Wash the car one day and leave it out for 10 minutes and it's green. Which leads me to what I hate about my BMW; the half inch the window goes down so the door will shut. I'm so anal that I take a feather duster and clear the window so the crud won't go down into the channel. Same thing with dust. Or a towel when the window is wet. Do I need psychological help? Last edited by Winemaker2; 03-06-2020 at 03:43 PM..
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03-06-2020, 03:21 PM	#1184
Dylan86 Colonel 1330 Rep 2,214 Posts Drives: F15d msport, F22 m235i Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: GTA iTrader: (0)	Hate that I still cant drive it for another 4-6 weeks __________________ My F22 Road/Track Build
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morphomeman Major 593 Rep 1,219 Posts Drives: 2015 M235ix Join Date: May 2015 Location: United States iTrader: (1) Garage List 2016 BMW X3 [0.00] 2015 BMW M235ix [0.00]	Winemaker: you are way beyond psychological help. Lock him up! Lock him up! I can understand your frustration, but I am not sure that hate is the right term here. It is hard to imagine that the folks at BMW could have imagined the scenario that has driven you to distraction.
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Winemaker2 Second Lieutenant 62 Rep 204 Posts Drives: 2017 230i MSport THP Dinan V2 Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: SF East Bay, CA iTrader: (0)	Morph, I know, I know. I also make sure screw heads are perfectly aligned. You're right about using the term hate, but how could I transition into this thread. To be honest there isn't anything I "hate" about my BMW.
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03-06-2020, 08:34 PM	#1188
jefe2000 Lieutenant 740 Rep 483 Posts Drives: 2018 M2 6MT Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: San Francisco Bay Area iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 BMW M2 [10.00]	Been lurking here for several months. I think I'll be ready to move up to a 6MT M240i at the end of the year (currently driving a 2010 WRX 5MT hatch). I'll probably aim for a 2018 or newer — maybe a CPO. This thread has been really great. I test drove an 8AT 2020 M240i coupe today. And, instead of being annoyed by things like the way-back-there seatbelt, double-press to turn off, double-pull on the door latch to unlock, and others, I knew to expect them. So, I had my expectations set instead of finding annoyances. I'm very thankful to y'all for that. It was a great test drive!
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