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M235i will beat 1m on ring if mboss says it will. Car NOW to satisfy those who couldn't/didn't get 1m. Now BMW can say "here you go, here's your car that 'better' than the 1m"
My $0.02 is that there will be M2 in a couple years. My guess i4, screaming turbo, light and very quick. CSL? A game changer (again). Spiritual Successor to 2002turbo? People may say " why should I buy an i4 when I have (or can get used) an i6 m235?" That's why it will have to be a great car, to satisfy those who want smaller dynamic car 'better' than m235i. And so, BMW creates constant desire for the next thing
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I don`t beleive there is any chance to get a 4cyl in the M2 as it will be a deal breaker for so many potential buyer. You just have to be patient the M2 will be there late 2015/ early 2016.
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As far as "deal breaker" specs, not sure it matters to BMW. Want an i6? Get an m3/m4, that's the car for you. Or just get the M235. Want a light, nimble, track car? M2 is your answer. It fills a niche nicely
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When did "ahead of" replace the word "before" in the media? I don't like it.
Anyways it's about time another "2002 Spritual successor" makes it to market. I was worried there. I hope it's an e46 successor too including a 4 door and wagon. |
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Also having a LSD as an option versus an after purchase accessory is quite different. I mean what engine would go in it? A beefed up N20, only then it would just have the same hp as the N55 in the M235i. A detuned S55, not going to happen. They won't just make a one off engine for an M2. Will it be another parts bin car like the 1M. A carbon roof, trunk, etc are out the window with a car in a lower price range (unless they hike up the price considerably). Since they were targeting 1M performance with the M235i, it just leaves one wondering. But like I said, they could do a low volume M2 for a year like the 1M. Don't see it happeing for years. |
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If they actually did a turbo-4, they would have to sell weight savings BIG TIME to move the car. |
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The car looks awesome (does it look like carbon black?). Still, no DCT is a real drag...
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I recently contact BMW of Germany and suggested the Black Jerez for this car. Although probably you're right and use Carbon Black. Greetings!!! Freude am Fahren. |
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When I ordered my 2008 in late 2007, the car was not debuted yet. I never even saw one in person until the night before I picked mine up. And that was at the NAIAS at Jacob Javitz in NYC
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How is it that these M235i posts always seem to turn into M2 discussions?
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YEAHHHHHHHH BOYEEEEEEEEEE! (flavor flav voice). I totally agree. Shave 150-200 lbs off the weight of a 235, carbon fiber roof, lighter glass.. unique interior... perhaps even a CSL treatment... And if BMW wants to keep the M3/M4 exclusive and ensure it is the most popular M car in the lineup (with respect to brand marketing and sales) then the best way to do that is to use a 4 cylinder motor and all the people who hate the idea of it not coming with a 6 cylinder can mod their 235 to their heart's delight) or spend another 15K for an M3/4. The idea of an M2 in my mind would be for it simply SMOKE a 1M. We know their goal is to make the 235i quicker around a track than the 1M.. not hard... but then up the game more and make the M2 a serious sports car. |
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Carbon fiber is not out of the range with HIGHER PRODUCTION NUMBERS. it won't work for 700 cars.... but 7000 cars over a 4-5 year period.. yes. And as far as one off motor... make it a two off.. how about an M2 coupe and an M2 gran coupe that brings back some E36 M3 nostalgia with respect to dimensions ? |
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