M3/M4 lower control arms.

rwalker · 10-12-2015, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by i8ur911

..unless you have toe plates...

what are toe plates?

Ramos · 10-18-2015, 12:20 AM

My front tires' outside shoulders are destroyed while the middle of the tires still has lots of tread left at 20K miles. These are my street stock PSS tires.

Will this mod and the extra camber help preserve tires? I'm aware of the benefit on track but I'm asking about preserving my street tires.

Bee Pee · 10-18-2015, 07:53 AM

Ramos,

Yes, m4 LCAs add camber and help tire wear to be more even across tread width.

I have them my m135i and MPSS are wearing well.

BP

jmwilson125 · 10-20-2015, 12:31 PM

So lets say I do the lca's. For alignmnet do you guys think it would be a good idea to get it done 3rd party. Or should I just bring it back to BMW and say please align this and hope they don't give me any trouble with adding a "mod".

Maybe it depends on the BMW dealership?

pikcachu · 10-20-2015, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jmwilson125

So lets say I do the lca's. For alignmnet do you guys think it would be a good idea to get it done 3rd party. Or should I just bring it back to BMW and say please align this and hope they don't give me any trouble with adding a "mod".

Maybe it depends on the BMW dealership?

Don't take it to BMW.... bring it to some tunning shop where they know their alignment... you might not want the stock alignment and zero out the toe instead that will help with the tread wear from the extra camber

also the dealer would probably don't understand why your front camber if out of spec given that it's not adjustable so save yourself the hassle

Michall · 10-20-2015, 07:29 PM

Is anyone running this kit with 17" wheels?

pikcachu · 10-20-2015, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Michall

Is anyone running this kit with 17" wheels?

Yes I have the Kosei

Michall · 10-20-2015, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pikcachu

Yes I have the Kosei

Great! So there is no problem with clearance when running 17" wheels?

pikcachu · 10-20-2015, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Michall

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Originally Posted by pikcachu

Yes I have the Kosei

Great! So there is no problem with clearance when running 17" wheels?

Not with the Kosei.

Michall · 10-20-2015, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pikcachu

Not with the Kosei.

May I ask about the specs of your wheels? Probably 17x7.5 but what's the offset? Thanks.

pikcachu · 10-20-2015, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Michall

May I ask about the specs of your wheels? Probably 17x7.5 but what's the offset? Thanks.

https://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Whee...After+3%2F2014

Michall · 10-20-2015, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pikcachu

https://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Whee...After+3%2F2014

+42. Thanks.

caycep · 10-25-2015, 04:54 PM

just wondering if you put this on a 228i w/ the M adaptive suspension, will it play funny w/ the suspension software on the 228i? I suspect it is slightly different than the software on the m235i...

rwalker · 10-25-2015, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by caycep

just wondering if you put this on a 228i w/ the M adaptive suspension, will it play funny w/ the suspension software on the 228i? I suspect it is slightly different than the software on the m235i...

I can't imagine how, but maybe you're driving at something specific. What makes you think LCAs will "play funny" with your M Adaptive Suspension?

G4Z808 · 10-26-2015, 08:38 AM

so I installed the LCA'S over the weekend. I adjusted the toe myself to drive it to a aligment shop and get it back in spec. now my steering wheel is off center, does anybody know how to reset it to center ? do I need to remove the steering wheel and re-attach to center it. also with the steering wheel being off now, does this affect the dsc?

Pparana · 10-26-2015, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by G4Z808

so I installed the LCA'S over the weekend. I adjusted the toe myself to drive it to a aligment shop and get it back in spec. now my steering wheel is off center, does anybody know how to reset it to center ? do I need to remove the steering wheel and re-attach to center it. also with the steering wheel being off now, does this affect the dsc?

You center wheel, attach a steering wheel lock and then align toe. You never remove the wheel.

jmwilson125 · 10-27-2015, 07:48 AM

[QUOTE=G4Z808;18808227]so I installed the LCA'S over the weekend. I adjusted the toe myself to drive it to a aligment shop and get it back in spec. now my steering wheel is off center, does anybody know how to reset it to center ? do I need to remove the steering wheel and re-attach to center it. also with the steering wheel being off now, does this affect the dsc?[/QUOT

love the steering wheel. Is that Carbon matte? I want to get the carbon insert for my wheel to match the carbon/ alcantara trim. Only problem is most of the carbon aftermarket parts are glossy not matte like the trim.

Nihilation · 11-24-2015, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by G4Z808

so I installed the LCA'S over the weekend.

Now that you've had them installed for a month how do you like them? Specifically what have you noticed? Would you do it again?

mocohead · 12-18-2015, 11:43 PM

I just had these installed today by my favorite so cal alignment shop, West End Alignment. They were able to get -1.75 degrees of camber with just the arms installed. Great mod and absolutely worth the money. The comments in this thread were so helpful so thank you everybody!

I used the kit from turner motorsport. Totally happy with this!

mocohead · 12-23-2015, 02:36 PM

After a day on the track I am happy to report that these lca's work brilliantly! The car has minimal understeer, the tires didn't get demolished and the car was extremely neutral. I highly recommend this upgrade!

Nihilation · 12-23-2015, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mocohead

After a day on the track I am happy to report that these lca's work brilliantly! The car has minimal understeer, the tires didn't get demolished and the car was extremely neutral. I highly recommend this upgrade!

That's great to hear. How about on the street? Have you noticed anything with the new arms?

mocohead · 12-23-2015, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Nihilation

That's great to hear. How about on the street? Have you noticed anything with the new arms?

I have noticed the absolute best thing on the street - nothing! It is totally stock feeling.

Best part is I won't have to worry about THIS happening again because it is a BMW part

http://www.focusst.org/forum/focus-s...s-warning.html

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Ramos Colonel 863 Rep 2,897 Posts Drives: G20 2020 M340 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: So-Cal iTrader: (6)	My front tires' outside shoulders are destroyed while the middle of the tires still has lots of tread left at 20K miles. These are my street stock PSS tires. Will this mod and the extra camber help preserve tires? I'm aware of the benefit on track but I'm asking about preserving my street tires.
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10-18-2015, 07:53 AM	#25
Bee Pee Brigadier General 1779 Rep 4,515 Posts Drives: AW M2 DCT Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SW London iTrader: (3)	Ramos, Yes, m4 LCAs add camber and help tire wear to be more even across tread width. I have them my m135i and MPSS are wearing well. BP
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jmwilson125 Major 341 Rep 1,184 Posts Drives: 2016 M235i Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Somerville, Ma iTrader: (0)	So lets say I do the lca's. For alignmnet do you guys think it would be a good idea to get it done 3rd party. Or should I just bring it back to BMW and say please align this and hope they don't give me any trouble with adding a "mod". Maybe it depends on the BMW dealership?
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10-20-2015, 07:29 PM	#28
Michall Second Lieutenant 94 Rep 244 Posts Drives: 15 M235i Join Date: May 2015 Location: Roselle, IL iTrader: (1)	Is anyone running this kit with 17" wheels? Last edited by Michall; 10-20-2015 at 07:53 PM..
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caycep First Lieutenant 91 Rep 333 Posts Drives: 228i Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 BMW 228i [0.00]	just wondering if you put this on a 228i w/ the M adaptive suspension, will it play funny w/ the suspension software on the 228i? I suspect it is slightly different than the software on the m235i...
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G4Z808 Private First Class 30 Rep 138 Posts Drives: not yet Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: San antonio, TX iTrader: (0)	so I installed the LCA'S over the weekend. I adjusted the toe myself to drive it to a aligment shop and get it back in spec. now my steering wheel is off center, does anybody know how to reset it to center ? do I need to remove the steering wheel and re-attach to center it. also with the steering wheel being off now, does this affect the dsc? Attached Images
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jmwilson125 Major 341 Rep 1,184 Posts Drives: 2016 M235i Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Somerville, Ma iTrader: (0)	[QUOTE=G4Z808;18808227]so I installed the LCA'S over the weekend. I adjusted the toe myself to drive it to a aligment shop and get it back in spec. now my steering wheel is off center, does anybody know how to reset it to center ? do I need to remove the steering wheel and re-attach to center it. also with the steering wheel being off now, does this affect the dsc?[/QUOT love the steering wheel. Is that Carbon matte? I want to get the carbon insert for my wheel to match the carbon/ alcantara trim. Only problem is most of the carbon aftermarket parts are glossy not matte like the trim.
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12-18-2015, 11:43 PM	#41
mocohead Lieutenant 54 Rep 453 Posts Drives: '16 M235i 6MT & 12 128i Msport Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: CA iTrader: (1)	I just had these installed today by my favorite so cal alignment shop, West End Alignment. They were able to get -1.75 degrees of camber with just the arms installed. Great mod and absolutely worth the money. The comments in this thread were so helpful so thank you everybody! I used the kit from turner motorsport. Totally happy with this!
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12-23-2015, 02:36 PM	#42
mocohead Lieutenant 54 Rep 453 Posts Drives: '16 M235i 6MT & 12 128i Msport Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: CA iTrader: (1)	After a day on the track I am happy to report that these lca's work brilliantly! The car has minimal understeer, the tires didn't get demolished and the car was extremely neutral. I highly recommend this upgrade!
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