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      07-05-2019, 07:51 PM   #1
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265 rear and 235 front on 18's

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well i've been driving the 2 since 3 years now and this will be my 3rd car . had an M235i then a 228i and now back to an M240i . i had 265 rears and 235 front ( Michelin 4s) but it was on BBS 19's , it was a major game changer and the traction and handling were much better of course. now i'm wondering if i can have 265 rear and 235 front but on 18's this time around on stock suspension , no mods no fender roll and no spacers.

as a side note the m240i stock already feels more potent than my stage1 m235i. long live the b58

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      07-06-2019, 07:53 AM   #2
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I know you can run 235 front and 255 rear, not sure if 265 would fit...
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      07-06-2019, 12:48 PM   #3
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I know you can run 235 front and 255 rear, not sure if 265 would fit...
this guy here did it but not with my tire choice ( PS4 )

https://www.2addicts.com/forums/show....php?t=1142121
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      07-23-2019, 10:38 AM   #4
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Dinan fits 265s in the rear:
Size: 19" x 9.0" et48
Recommended Tire because of fit: Michelin Pilot Super Sport or P-Zero Corsa – 265/30-19

I'm like you and would rather keep the 18" rim size. Currently looking to see what exists out there in 18x9.0 et48... 265/35-18 should fit the same as 265/30-19.
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This is a tough call... There are like no good wheels manufactured for our spec..

F: 18x8.5et40-43 will fit 235/40/18 MPS4S
R: 18x9.5et48-52 will fit 265/35/18 MPS4S

Now how you get those offsets is tricky. Personally i would go with the APEX ARC8 or EC7 with spacers all around. et45 with 3-5mm up front and et58 with 5-8mm rear. You can do something similar with VMRs.

Now if you want some forged wheels i'd do spec & wheels below:
BC Forged KL-series
18x8et41 fronts
18x9et51 rears

They offer customs at around $3100 for the set.

all my recommendations are for lowered cars. Non-lowered even better lol
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      07-23-2019, 05:14 PM   #6
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BC Forged KL-series... They offer customs at around $3100 for the set.
Another data point: I was quoted $3200 for a Forgeline custom forged set. I think that price range is good value for what you get. I do wish Bimmerworld's forged wheels came in sizes better suited to our cars; at ~$400 each, they're remarkably inexpensive.
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BC Forged KL-series... They offer customs at around $3100 for the set.
Another data point: I was quoted $3200 for a Forgeline custom forged set. I think that price range is good value for what you get. I do wish Bimmerworld's forged wheels came in sizes better suited to our cars; at ~$400 each, they're remarkably inexpensive.
Super true, those 17" forged are remarkable! That's track days dedication!
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This is a tough call... There are like no good wheels manufactured for our spec..

F: 18x8.5et40-43 will fit 235/40/18 MPS4S
R: 18x9.5et48-52 will fit 265/35/18 MPS4S

Now how you get those offsets is tricky. Personally i would go with the APEX ARC8 or EC7 with spacers all around. et45 with 3-5mm up front and et58 with 5-8mm rear.
So, I'm a little concerned on my current order for the Apex group buy. I have a RWD M240i and would like to do 235/40-18 tires up front on the stock suspension.

I contacted Apex for a quote of wheels plus tires. I was going to take the suggestion above go ET45 up front, ET58 in the rear with spacers all around. The Apex sales rep said, no spacer up front required and 5mm in the rear would be enough to clear the shock boot.

This poster seems to say this won't work though: https://www.2addicts.com/forums/show...6&postcount=46

And the Apex fitment page seems to suggest ET38 up front. If ET45 really worked without spacers, I would think that would be listed there.
https://support.apexraceparts.com/hc...-Fitment-Guide

Should I order 3mm spacers up front?

Wheels ordered are EC-7s
18x8.5 ET45
18x9.5 ET58
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So, I'm a little concerned on my current order for the Apex group buy. I have a RWD M240i and would like to do 235/40-18 tires up front on the stock suspension.

I contacted Apex for a quote of wheels plus tires. I was going to take the suggestion above go ET45 up front, ET58 in the rear with spacers all around. The Apex sales rep said, no spacer up front required and 5mm in the rear would be enough to clear the shock boot.

This poster seems to say this won't work though: https://www.2addicts.com/forums/show...6&postcount=46

And the Apex fitment page seems to suggest ET38 up front. If ET45 really worked without spacers, I would think that would be listed there.
https://support.apexraceparts.com/hc...-Fitment-Guide

Should I order 3mm spacers up front?

Wheels ordered are EC-7s
18x8.5 ET45
18x9.5 ET58
Sorry for the confusion here, we may have recommended the less ideal wheel over the phone. The 18x8.5 ET45 is going to require at least a 5mm spacer up front in order to work on your 2 series if you are planning on running 235 section tires.

The 18x8.5 ET35 will likely be the better choice. The ET38 is for the ARC-8 design only. You may still have to add a bit of negative camber to fit the ET35 wheel/235 tire but you will not have to use a front spacer. Either wheel can work, but the ET35 would probably be simpler to fit.

You should be able to change your group buy order via gangup under the "My Deals" tab. Please let us know if you have any issues changing it or other questions!
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Sorry for the confusion here, we may have recommended the less ideal wheel over the phone. The 18x8.5 ET45 is going to require at least a 5mm spacer up front in order to work on your 2 series if you are planning on running 235 section tires.

The 18x8.5 ET35 will likely be the better choice. The ET38 is for the ARC-8 design only. You may still have to add a bit of negative camber to fit the ET35 wheel/235 tire but you will not have to use a front spacer. Either wheel can work, but the ET35 would probably be simpler to fit.

You should be able to change your group buy order via gangup under the "My Deals" tab. Please let us know if you have any issues changing it or other questions!
Thanks for the quick response and clarification. Glad I asked!

Any reason you recommend the ET35 and negative camber over spacer? Adding neg camber and getting an alignment sounds like more of pain. Does the spacer harm the suspension performance, even a thin one like a 5mm?
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Sorry for the confusion here, we may have recommended the less ideal wheel over the phone. The 18x8.5 ET45 is going to require at least a 5mm spacer up front in order to work on your 2 series if you are planning on running 235 section tires.

The 18x8.5 ET35 will likely be the better choice. The ET38 is for the ARC-8 design only. You may still have to add a bit of negative camber to fit the ET35 wheel/235 tire but you will not have to use a front spacer. Either wheel can work, but the ET35 would probably be simpler to fit.

You should be able to change your group buy order via gangup under the "My Deals" tab. Please let us know if you have any issues changing it or other questions!
Thanks for the quick response and clarification. Glad I asked!

Any reason you recommend the ET35 and negative camber over spacer? Adding neg camber and getting an alignment sounds like more of pain. Does the spacer harm the suspension performance, even a thin one like a 5mm?
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Sorry for the confusion here, we may have recommended the less ideal wheel over the phone. The 18x8.5 ET45 is going to require at least a 5mm spacer up front in order to work on your 2 series if you are planning on running 235 section tires.

The 18x8.5 ET35 will likely be the better choice. The ET38 is for the ARC-8 design only. You may still have to add a bit of negative camber to fit the ET35 wheel/235 tire but you will not have to use a front spacer. Either wheel can work, but the ET35 would probably be simpler to fit.

You should be able to change your group buy order via gangup under the "My Deals" tab. Please let us know if you have any issues changing it or other questions!
Thanks for the quick response and clarification. Glad I asked!

Any reason you recommend the ET35 and negative camber over spacer? Adding neg camber and getting an alignment sounds like more of pain. Does the spacer harm the suspension performance, even a thin one like a 5mm?
Hey btw you don't require a 5mm spacer. 3 works fine. I actually drove with NO SPACER, VMR 18x8.5et45 with 235/40/18. Reason I upped to 3mm spacer is there is literally +1 mm of gap to the shock on the passenger side, and maybe a tiny bit less on driver side. The driver tire would heat up. Passenger was fine and I was running like this for 1 month no issues. Surprising to me that each side has a different response but just needed a few mms to play it safe. Get the essential et50 rear and et43 up front and you will be beyond pleased.

Side note: I also installed M4 Ts and LCA which is actually causing more issues tho. It added a solid degree of camber each side and added more stiffness and less dead weight on steering. Plus I'm at 80k miles so the stock arms were beat! the forward wheel movement is causing inner lining and front bumper rub haha. 35 profile tire next time might help for me.
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Thanks for the quick response and clarification. Glad I asked!

Any reason you recommend the ET35 and negative camber over spacer? Adding neg camber and getting an alignment sounds like more of pain. Does the spacer harm the suspension performance, even a thin one like a 5mm?
Note, you can not add negative camber on the front of an F22 w/o camber plates or the M2 LCA. The camber is not adjustable.
ET45 and a 5mm spacer gives you ET40, which is perfect for a 235/40 on the front of an F22.
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