[bsiciliano]

Originally Posted by AlexTek

I just HATE seeing BMW branding now ///M to any model now.

Just like AMG that brands every MB crap they do, just because has a body kit or wheels.

BMW should keep ///M exclusive to 1M, M3, M4, M5, M6, X5M, X6M and maybe an M2. But for te love of God NO M235 :-/

This!!!!

[YeaG30]

Man, there are a lot of people on this thread getting their panties in a wad because of the M badging. M badge this, dental floss that. Who cares if they badge it up or even what they choose to call it. The vehicle specs have and will always speak to the car's pedigree. Just relax, give up the idea that they will make an E(insert number) direct replacement, and buy one.

[M3_WC]

Originally Posted by AlexTek

I just HATE seeing BMW branding now ///M to any model now.

Just like AMG that brands every MB crap they do, just because has a body kit or wheels.

BMW should keep ///M exclusive to 1M, M3, M4, M5, M6, X5M, X6M and maybe an M2. But for te love of God NO M235 :-/

Too late.

There is already the M550d, X5 M50d, and X6 M50d. Now the M235i. More are coming.

[ozinaldo]

Originally Posted by kmarei

Who's the idiot who would pay a hefty premium for the M2 when the difference in power is only 28hp?
I guess the same idiots who paid a hefty premium for a 1m vs a 135is

Except there were no hefty premiums (at least in US) between a 1M and 135i. 135is arrived later too and got even closer to 1M price (as new).

Around 6K more than a 135i is not what I call hefty premium for a car which has brakes, tires and wheels worth almost that much let alone lsd. And I really summarize here.

So just don't exaggerate to make a point. 1M was the best priced M car since long time and premium over a 135i was really more than acceptable.

Financially speaking whoever buys a brand new M car with his own money is an idiot which makes a good chunk of this forum including yourself and myself. At least sometimes some of those idiots get lucky and loose nothing or even sell their used cars with a profit

We still need a M2, BMW needs it too. This should just be the beginning, a base for a more exciting M car to follow. And as long as BMW continues to make great M cars there will thankfully be idiots around the World who will be ready to pay the price that it deserves. It is sad that an enthusiast like yourself won't be among the stupid side of the car buying population that we call as enthusiasts (with a job and pay check).

[jraymond]

Originally Posted by tony20009

TY for the pics. Nice to see.

Can someone tell me who stages an event where the car is stuck under a tent so nobody can see it, and then lets people take pics that end up on the web?

Am I just being too, too cynical?

I feel everything today IS CALCULATED. BMW knows what it is doing. This was a calculated leak to the web. Everyone online interested in the car gets a 5 day strip tease prior to unveil.

here are some facts (predictions) about this model.

FACT: it will sell well
FACT: it will sell much better than prior model (e82)
FACT: marketing budget will be greater than e82 (in US)
FACT: ///M badging/branding (whoring) will work on majority of buyers :/

[MikeT]

Not super-impressed with the look of the lip-spoiler on the trunk, but it's a minor thing. I'll reserve judgment until I see better photos.

[wdlfbio]

I hope that is not the same NAV/I drive screen as in the Z4. Ours started to rattle under 5k miles. I hate the pop up screen. Seems too much like and ooops after-thought. Might just save me $2,200 in options.

[Math]

Originally Posted by wdlfbio

I hope that is not the same NAV/I drive screen as in the Z4. Ours started to rattle under 5k miles. I hate the pop up screen. Seems too much like and ooops after-thought. Might just save me $2,200 in options.

It should probably be the same displays as in the F20 which are fixed. They stay in that position. So no rattles

[Math]

I'm not to sure what to think of the trunk lid going around the rear lights.. Seems odd and maybe impractical..

[Jaguar]

Originally Posted by tony20009

TY for the pics. Nice to see.

Can someone tell me who stages an event where the car is stuck under a tent so nobody can see it, and then lets people take pics that end up on the web?

Am I just being too, too cynical?

You are asking who takes pics of a car like this and posts it? Disrespectful clowns. The car was secured in a tent with security placing a sticker over camera lenses, but leave it to the clowns to act like children and lose self control.

[Jaguar]

Originally Posted by jraymond

I feel everything today IS CALCULATED. BMW knows what it is doing. This was a calculated leak to the web. Everyone online interested in the car gets a 5 day strip tease prior to unveil.

here are some facts (predictions) about this model.

FACT: it will sell well
FACT: it will sell much better than prior model (e82)
FACT: marketing budget will be greater than e82 (in US)
FACT: ///M badging/branding (whoring) will work on majority of buyers :/

Absolutely not a calculated leak.

[elusivegene]

How come Infiniti Q60 coupe is in the competitive set, shouldn't it falls in the segment with 4-series/A5/E-coupe?

[vladberca]

Looks great and it will perform very good.
I just want to see some performance parts for this model

[Aust350z]

OEM 19" Wheel option..??? depending on offset....



Spec from the 435i
19” BMW M light-alloy wheels, Double-spoke 442 M,
Front 8 J x 19” with 225/40 R19
Rear 9 J x 19” with 255/35 R19

[M3 TAG]

Looks awesome....

Swiss dealer just offered me a deal to keep my 135i F1 Sauber Edition, lease ends Friday then when the M235i arrives he will rip up lease of Sauber and i can take the M235i...

:-)

[lasovan]

In the meantime, before the M235i's reviews start rolling out you can read this: BMW M135i review with LSD installed. Mind you, this is not an in-depth review, just a short one. (Read at the end of the article about the LSD)

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evoc...and_specs.html

[Matski]

Originally Posted by M3 TAG

Looks awesome....

Swiss dealer just offered me a deal to keep my 135i F1 Sauber Edition,

Huh, I never heard of this edition! What were the extras?

[tony20009]

Originally Posted by tony20009

...
Can someone tell me who stages an event where the car is stuck under a tent so nobody can see it, and then lets people take pics that end up on the web?

Am I just being too, too cynical?

You could both be right. I happen to give BMW's management far more credit than being so naive as to think pics wouldn't end up being taken and published.

Do you really believe that someone who wanted to photograph the back end of the car couldn't have taken at least one pic that presented a full on view (even from an oblique angle) of the rear of the car? It doesn't seem odd to you that there is an interior shot that's reasonably clear and yet not one from the driver's vantage point?

That, with BMW representatives plainly standing at the door. Did James Bond take these pics with his belt buckle hidden cam?

Originally Posted by jraymond

I feel everything today IS CALCULATED. BMW knows what it is doing. This was a calculated leak to the web. Everyone online interested in the car gets a 5 day strip tease prior to unveil.

here are some facts (predictions) about this model.

FACT: it will sell well
FACT: it will sell much better than prior model (e82)
FACT: marketing budget will be greater than e82 (in US)
FACT: ///M badging/branding (whoring) will work on majority of buyers :/

For now, that's my take too.

[Lorde]

Originally Posted by AlexTek

I just HATE seeing BMW branding now ///M to any model now.

Just like AMG that brands every MB crap they do, just because has a body kit or wheels.

BMW should keep ///M exclusive to 1M, M3, M4, M5, M6, X5M, X6M and maybe an M2. But for te love of God NO M235 :-/

BMW has been doing this for years.

Look at the 1980 E12 M535i.

This is NOT a new approach.

[Swadeness]

- This car is looking good! Unfortunately I don't think the performance will be as under the radar as the 135i. I loved the fact that a lot of folks didn't even know what a 1 series was, let alone the fact that it was probably the best performing non M car in the line up. Ohh well, it's going to be sweet anyway.

- I really don't think any of you guys should be worked up or worried about the M235 diluting the M brand. The enthusiast on both sides will know and appreciate the difference. If a M2 does come around it will be special. I'm sure there will be some douche bags and posers trying to say their car M235 is an M.....but who cares? There will always be douche bags and posers....you cant stop them. That being said I liked the direction of the "is" models better than the using the M designation...but its a minor gripe.

- I don't like the little M badge on the fender but it can stay. However, the ugly reflector on the bumper HAS GOT TO GO! Aftermarket guys if you are reading this, GET TO WORK on a solution.

[pimp4cheddar]

Originally Posted by Matski

Huh, I never heard of this edition! What were the extras?

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...sauber+edition

[hks786]

I like everything apart from:

- headlights and grilles: too feminine/weird shape.
- wheels: never liked them
- ///M235i badge: needs to go

Apart from that I think it looks a lot better than 1er coupe; especially the rear lights and interior look great.