[Drtsk]

Has anyone sold their M2 and went to M240?
I bought a 2018 M2 with MPE and 6MT, and I didn’t like it. So I gave to my son and took his 335is. Now I am thinking about trading in the 335 for a M240. The reason for my dislike of the M2: sounds awful (inside while driving), MPG is poor, seating position is uncomfortable. I had the opportunity to drive the M240 for few days a year ago and it felt like a great car, quieter and better MPG. I was just wondering what previous M2 owner thought of the long term ownership of M240.

[XutvJet]

Originally Posted by Drtsk

Has anyone sold their M2 and went to M240?
I bought a 2018 M2 with MPE and 6MT, and I didn’t like it. So I gave to my son and took his 335is. Now I am thinking about trading in the 335 for a M240. The reason for my dislike of the M2: sounds awful (inside while driving), MPG is poor, seating position is uncomfortable. I had the opportunity to drive the M240 for few days a year ago and it felt like a great car, quieter and better MPG. I was just wondering what previous M2 owner thought of the long term ownership of M240.

MPGs shouldn't be measurably different if you're looking at the 6MT M240. Maybe 1mpg..maybe.

The 2016-2018 M2s have the same exact seats as the M240.

The MPE on the M2 was much of the reason why your M2 was loud. The non-MPE equipped M2 is a bit quieter. The M240 without the MPE will be slightly quieter in terms of exhaust noise.

The M240 has a softer suspension and narrower tires and wheels which makes it ride softer and reduces noise. The lack of solid rear subframe bushings in the M240 will also reduce noise slightly.

[EM240]

As someone who switched from a M240 with stock exhaust to an MPE I found the stock was much much quieter.

[Hpirx]

Do the M2's have the ASD "feature" that pipes "enhanced(fake)" engine noise through the speakers?
My '19 M240 has it and I coded it off for a quieter cabin.
It can also be deleted with an aftermarket harness.
Something to consider when evaluating the M2 and the 240.

[Drtsk]

Originally Posted by Hpirx

Do the M2's have the ASD "feature" that pipes "enhanced(fake)" engine noise through the speakers?
My '19 M240 has it and I coded it off for a quieter cabin.
It can also be deleted with an aftermarket harness.
Something to consider when evaluating the M2 and the 240.

Yes, the M2 has the ASD function. I heard that by removing the ASD there is some drone. So my son and I are little hesitant to delete it. Maybe it is unfair that I am comparing my GT4 and 991 sound with the PSE with the M2. The M2 just sounds loud and obnoxious. Please, those of you who are M2 fanboys, don’t grill me. It is just my humble opinion.

[Lucky1]

Originally Posted by Drtsk

Yes, the M2 has the ASD function. I heard that by removing the ASD there is some drone. So my son and I are little hesitant to delete it. Maybe it is unfair that I am comparing my GT4 and 991 sound with the PSE with the M2. The M2 just sounds loud and obnoxious. Please, those of you who are M2 fanboys, don't grill me. It is just my humble opinion.

Its okay, you're not alone. I guess the other cars you cited are neither loud nor obnoxious yet still sound good at throttle?

About the drone, at least on the M2C I heard the opposite: drone goes away after ASD is coded off. This is my hope.

[snaketh]

Originally Posted by XutvJet

The MPE on the M2 was much of the reason why your M2 was loud. The non-MPE equipped M2 is a bit quieter. The M240 without the MPE will be slightly quieter in terms of exhaust noise.

Is a M240 + MPE just as loud as the M2?

I was looking at the MPE for mine and I don't want much drone if I can avoid it.

[GrimJaw]

Originally Posted by Drtsk

Has anyone sold their M2 and went to M240?
I bought a 2018 M2 with MPE and 6MT, and I didn’t like it. So I gave to my son and took his 335is. Now I am thinking about trading in the 335 for a M240. The reason for my dislike of the M2: sounds awful (inside while driving), MPG is poor, seating position is uncomfortable. I had the opportunity to drive the M240 for few days a year ago and it felt like a great car, quieter and better MPG. I was just wondering what previous M2 owner thought of the long term ownership of M240.

I mean did you even test drive the M2 or look at reviews at all before buying...?? Sounds like money isn't an issue for you. M2 and m235/m240 sounds similar inside due to asd.

[Hpirx]

I found it very easy to code off with the BimmerCode app. The cabin is significantly quieter. But I may turn it back on at some point because, you know, fake race car✌️

[M235ForNow]

Originally Posted by Drtsk

Yes, the M2 has the ASD function. I heard that by removing the ASD there is some drone. So my son and I are little hesitant to delete it. Maybe it is unfair that I am comparing my GT4 and 991 sound with the PSE with the M2. The M2 just sounds loud and obnoxious. Please, those of you who are M2 fanboys, don’t grill me. It is just my humble opinion.

If you code it out with BimmerCode there is zero drone. Only quiet. M235i with MPE. If anything, you may want a bit more sound after killing the ASD.

[babaikram]

Originally Posted by Drtsk

Has anyone sold their M2 and went to M240?
I bought a 2018 M2 with MPE and 6MT, and I didn’t like it. So I gave to my son and took his 335is. Now I am thinking about trading in the 335 for a M240. The reason for my dislike of the M2: sounds awful (inside while driving), MPG is poor, seating position is uncomfortable. I had the opportunity to drive the M240 for few days a year ago and it felt like a great car, quieter and better MPG. I was just wondering what previous M2 owner thought of the long term ownership of M240.

Wow if I were in America, I would be rushing to arrange a swap. Maybe I have bought the M2 hype or I am underrating the m240i. It is only financial responsibility that is keeping me at bay. I envy your resolution

[Wakka]

Tell ya what. I got an 18 M240 with 2300 miles on it. Lets trade

[serrated]

Originally Posted by Drtsk

Has anyone sold their M2 and went to M240?
I bought a 2018 M2 with MPE and 6MT, and I didn’t like it. So I gave to my son and took his 335is. Now I am thinking about trading in the 335 for a M240. The reason for my dislike of the M2: sounds awful (inside while driving), MPG is poor, seating position is uncomfortable. I had the opportunity to drive the M240 for few days a year ago and it felt like a great car, quieter and better MPG. I was just wondering what previous M2 owner thought of the long term ownership of M240.

I had a dinan stage 4 m2 dct, did 20k miles on it, then traded it for a wrangler later. (then hated wrangler for commuting and traded back to an m235i six months later)

I loved the M2 but since it's my daily I might actually like my m235i more. Once I did the flash tune I think it was already faster than my stock m2 was. I mean when you think about it, it's the exact same motor and turbo. ZF8 is butter smooth and it's quiet and comfy. No regrets so far. Half the price too. If I could find a similar price M2 with three pedals I'd switch, but they're still around $40k while you can get an immaculate m235i for $25k+.

[babaikram]

Originally Posted by snaketh

Is a M240 + MPE just as loud as the M2?

I was looking at the MPE for mine and I don't want much drone if I can avoid it.

No drone with M240i MPE

[DanG]

There is no drone on an M2 with the ASD bypass harness.

[Transfer]

A couple of points to clarify... M2 interior sound and volume is fairly dramatically different than M235i/M240i and M2 stock exhaust is slightly louder than 235/240 with MPE. Neither cause drone.

M2 is not for everyone and M240i is just as quick in a straight line. For daily driver, most people can be satisfied by a 240 but many of us are ridiculous and want our hair on fire while commuting in a full M car.

[qnet]

I had an M235i before I had my M2. It was a quieter car and more comfortable/relaxing ride. The seating position felt the same as the M2 IMHO, but maybe they changed something in the M240.

I have the MPE on my M2 and compared to the M235i with the MPE, it is quite loud, but I like it. It's not for everyone. The stock exhaust on the M335i was quiet.

Sandwiched in between the BMW's I had a Focus RS. It was on the other end of the spectrum as far as comfort, but a really fun car.

The M2 is a nice blend of my two previous cars and just right for me.

Seems like you really liked the M240i, and should go for it. I used to spend a lot of time on this section of the forums, and still like the regular 2 series a lot. They're all great cars, and IMO you should get what your comfortable with.

[MiamiM235iEstorilBlue]

I rented and M2 and loved it. But I hated the road noise, could barely have a conversation at highway speeds. Not the exhaust or engine, but the road roar, wind, tires, all that. Besides that, I LOVED how it drove. So much that I went out and bought an M235i hoping it would be a tamer, more civilized version.

Its exactly that. Quieter, softer, much easier to live with, luxurious when I want and tons of fun as well.
I only wish it had the M2's fenders, that makes the look of these cars. Without them, the 2-series looks a bit weak to me.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by MiamiM235iEstorilBlue

I rented and M2 and loved it. But I hated the road noise, could barely have a conversation at highway speeds. Not the exhaust or engine, but the road roar, wind, tires, all that. Besides that, I LOVED how it drove. So much that I went out and bought an M235i hoping it would be a tamer, more civilized version.

Its exactly that. Quieter, softer, much easier to live with, luxurious when I want and tons of fun as well.
I only wish it had the M2's fenders, that makes the look of these cars. Without them, the 2-series looks a bit weak to me.

There are tremendous amount of sound deadening between the M2 and M235i/M240i which would clearly explain the difference in road noise between the two vehicles.





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[ramy_who]

Very informative. Thank you sir!

Originally Posted by Poochie

There are tremendous amount of sound deadening between the M2 and M235i/M240i which would clearly explain the difference in road noise between the two vehicles.





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[CP911]

M240i here and looking to maybe go the other way to a M2, but not until the next generation car arrives with a S58 engine. Love my B58 powered car and can't imagine going backwards in engine technology at this point, despite how tempting the M2 Competition has been since its release. I only wish my car was louder from the driver's seat, but in terms of ride comfort, it's spot-on. I'm really hoping the next generation M2 will come with adaptive suspension as standard so that I can have my cake and eat it too.

[amancuso]

Originally Posted by Drtsk

Yes, the M2 has the ASD function. I heard that by removing the ASD there is some drone. So my son and I are little hesitant to delete it. Maybe it is unfair that I am comparing my GT4 and 991 sound with the PSE with the M2. The M2 just sounds loud and obnoxious. Please, those of you who are M2 fanboys, don’t grill me. It is just my humble opinion.

Nope. I deleted the ASD with a stock exhaust and there isn't any drone. (mine is deleted via coding.)