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      04-04-2020, 08:16 PM   #1
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Hi everyone,

Since I have a manual I wanted something that would stiffen up the shifter feel and although I have the short shifter it was still a but soft when engaging the gears.

So I tried ECS transmission mounts and they delivered too much NVH then I went to Rouge and found that it was a good balance between comfort and performance. What are your thoughts?

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difference between these and the OEM M2/M4 mounts?
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After trying a few mounts myself, I have ended up using these
"URO PARTS 23711175939"

I've tried and use occasionally some poly 80a & 90a durometer Revshift brand ones which give precise shifter feel but do transmit a bit of NVH.

I then used a pair of M3 mounts(OEM Rein 22322282340 ) , while better than m235i OEMs, they still have an hourglass shape and were still a bit soft for my taste.

Ultimately I've stuck with the URO parts mounts as they are completely solid shaped and are still made of rubber material, minimal NVH. I believe these are comparable to the ones you are using as they are also rubber, correct?
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I have Rogue Mounts and love them. No added nvh, but much better feel.

Which short shifter do you have?
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I am also interested in upgrading transmission feel in my 235i. I hope it will rekindle my passion for driving.

1) How much time does it take to install those rogue transmission mounts ? Can any mechanic do it ?

2) Do you need a short-throw shifter as a prerequisite ? (personally I don't mind regular-throw shifter because in M235i it is already shortened)

3) Are there any downsides for a daily-driver car or any durability issues ?

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After trying a few mounts myself, I have ended up using these
"URO PARTS 23711175939"

I've tried and use occasionally some poly 80a & 90a durometer Revshift brand ones which give precise shifter feel but do transmit a bit of NVH.

I then used a pair of M3 mounts(OEM Rein 22322282340 ) , while better than m235i OEMs, they still have an hourglass shape and were still a bit soft for my taste.

Ultimately I've stuck with the URO parts mounts as they are completely solid shaped and are still made of rubber material, minimal NVH. I believe these are comparable to the ones you are using as they are also rubber, correct?
Correct. They appear to be a bit tougher than stock, but still a rubber compound.

I tried ECS 70A mounts and even that was too much NVH for me on the daily.

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I am also interested in upgrading transmission feel in my 235i. I hope it will rekindle my passion for driving.

1) How much time does it take to install those rogue transmission mounts ? Can any mechanic do it ?

2) Do you need a short-throw shifter as a prerequisite ? (personally I don't mind regular-throw shifter because in M235i it is already shortened)

3) Are there any downsides for a daily-driver car or any durability issues ?

Thanks
I wouldn't say that they are life changing but I can definitely feel a difference.

1)Takes only about 30 minutes.

2) You don't need a short shifter, but if you don't mind the extra effort I feel that the short shifter modification would rekindle your passion for driving.

3) No downsides during daily drives. NVH feels the same as stock imo

Let me know if you have any other questions.
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I have Rogue Mounts and love them. No added nvh, but much better feel.

Which short shifter do you have?
Agreed! I have the Turner Motorsports Shifter. How about yourself?
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difference between these and the OEM M2/M4 mounts?
If I'm not mistaken those ones have a slight angle to the screw and are encased in a metal housing, right?
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I have Rogue Mounts and love them. No added nvh, but much better feel.

Which short shifter do you have?
Agreed! I have the Turner Motorsports Shifter. How about yourself?
I have/helped develop a SSK from rogue for our cars.


Rogue Engineering Short Shift Kit for F2X https://www.2addicts.com/forums/show....php?t=1709414
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I have/helped develop a SSK from rogue for our cars.


Rogue Engineering Short Shift Kit for F2X https://www.2addicts.com/forums/show....php?t=1709414
That's awesome! That was so cool of you to organize as well. The short shifter is the first mods I do in all of my cars. Too bad I already have mine. I used UUC for my e36 and was pretty happy but the TMS is way way better.

Other than using Rouge before why didn't you go with another brand for the m235i?

Here are the details of the TMS shifter if you were curious.

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I have/helped develop a SSK from rogue for our cars.


Rogue Engineering Short Shift Kit for F2X https://www.2addicts.com/forums/show....php?t=1709414
That's awesome! That was so cool of you to organize as well. The short shifter is the first mods I do in all of my cars. Too bad I already have mine. I used UUC for my e36 and was pretty happy but the TMS is way way better.

Other than using Rouge before why didn't you go with another brand for the m235i?

Here are the details of the TMS shifter if you were curious.

The main reasons other than having liked the Rogue in my e36 were that, I knew I didn't like UUC shifters, and I liked how similar to oem the Rogue design is.

By providing a new, modified carrier, no additional parts are added with the Rogue shifter. I knew that over the years nothing would get loose or rattle.

I also like to support smaller companies that are specialists in what they do.


I just watched your video and I thought it was nice and thorough.
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The main reasons other than having liked the Rogue in my e36 were that, I knew I didn't like UUC shifters, and I liked how similar to oem the Rogue design is.

By providing a new, modified carrier, no additional parts are added with the Rogue shifter. I knew that over the years nothing would get loose or rattle.

I also like to support smaller companies that are specialists in what they do.


I just watched your video and I thought it was nice and thorough.
Would you say the rouge ssk I could diy similar to turner one in video? Very tempting, I hate when labor costs more then the parts lol.
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The main reasons other than having liked the Rogue in my e36 were that, I knew I didn't like UUC shifters, and I liked how similar to oem the Rogue design is.

By providing a new, modified carrier, no additional parts are added with the Rogue shifter. I knew that over the years nothing would get loose or rattle.

I also like to support smaller companies that are specialists in what they do.


I just watched your video and I thought it was nice and thorough.
Would you say the rouge ssk I could diy similar to turner one in video? Very tempting, I hate when labor costs more then the parts lol.
Same exact process as far as things you need to remove from the car to gain access.

It's actually probably slightly less work because you don't need to transfer any parts to the carrier. The rogue carrier comes with the raised cup welded and the front carrier bushings pre installed.

You also don't have to remove the selector rod to transmission connecting while only doing an SSK
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Same exact process as far as things you need to remove from the car to gain access.

It's actually probably slightly less work because you don't need to transfer any parts to the carrier. The rogue carrier comes with the raised cup welded and the front carrier bushings pre installed.

You also don't have to remove the selector rod to transmission connecting while only doing an SSK
No lie, that will save quite a bit of time
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I also tried ecs poly mounts, but it was too harsh.
Mind you I have a body mounted self centering shifter

I went with uuc e series m3 high density rubber mounts, and metal cups. Very happy.

The rubber Is stiffer then stock and absorbs the NVH, the metal cups provide the support to prevent movement.
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I also tried ecs poly mounts, but it was too harsh.
Mind you I have a body mounted self centering shifter

I went with uuc e series m3 high density rubber mounts, and metal cups. Very happy.

The rubber Is stiffer then stock and absorbs the NVH, the metal cups provide the support to prevent movement.
I'll keep that in mind. Thanks for sharing
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difference between these and the OEM M2/M4 mounts?
I'm going to find out. They have a different colored strap. Perhaps they're a harder durometer or the strap is stiffer to keep the mount from rolling over as much?

I have hard time believing that the Rogue mounts don't create any additional NVH. They're much thicker and apparently a harder durometer. Perhaps the OP, forgot what the stockers felt like prior to the ECS and Rogue mounts.
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I'm going to find out. They have a different colored strap. Perhaps they're a harder durometer or the strap is stiffer to keep the mount from rolling over as much?

I have hard time believing that the Rogue mounts don't create any additional NVH. They're much thicker and apparently a harder durometer. Perhaps the OP, forgot what the stockers felt like prior to the ECS and Rogue mounts.

I mean if you really really pay attention you can tell a slight difference. I was running on the stock mounts before the Rogue ones (I took off the ECS ones after a day). I am interested to know what you find with the mounts that you have. Please update us.
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I installed rouge trans mounts, nvh is marginal.
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would these work on the automatic trans as well?
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would these work on the automatic trans as well?
I don't see why not
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