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      08-07-2017, 07:52 PM   #45
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Brian, i've been following this thread for a little bit now. Any ideas or thoughts on the

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Cup 2s
Nt05s

Hot weather summer driving, a few 20 minute track sessions a year and a few autox a year.
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Brian, i've been following this thread for a little bit now. Any ideas or thoughts on the

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Cup 2s
Nt05s

Hot weather summer driving, a few 20 minute track sessions a year and a few autox a year.
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Federals - havent used,

Re71 rs - using now, great tire wears kind of quick, maybe 3 track days or 4 months of daily use.

Cup 2s - too expensive, wears too fast and uneven.

Nt05s - street tire, decent on track, will wear less if just street driving.

R888- same as nitto 01,

Nitto 01- same as r888, great track tire, super loud, would run these instead of a hoosier slick, have these on apex arc8s for track days

dsw06 - great all season, I run these for colder and winter months
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Federals - havent used,

Re71 rs - using now, great tire wears kind of quick, maybe 3 track days or 4 months of daily use.

Cup 2s - too expensive, wears too fast and uneven.

Nt05s - street tire, decent on track, will wear less if just street driving.

R888- same as nitto 01,

Nitto 01- same as r888, great track tire, super loud, would run these instead of a hoosier slick, have these on apex arc8s for track days

dsw06 - great all season, I run these for colder and winter months
Thanks for the input. Trying to narrow down the pickings for my next set. It seems like its going to be the re71r or the nt05s. Also have been seeing good things about rs3 which are rs4s now.

I might try the federals just because. Ive got a feeling ill settle on one of the others though
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just make sure you read the measurements of the tires.

the nittos, and the re71rs i know are larger than what they say on the side by almost a full size.
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just make sure you read the measurements of the tires.

the nittos, and the re71rs i know are larger than what they say on the side by almost a full size.
Read the measurements? Is there a "real" measurement anywhere on it? Or is it safe to say 1 size larger?

I'm running mpss now and people tend to say they are almost a full size wider as well. Do you think re71rs and nittos are even wider than that?
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And to op... Do you think the 265 federals are wider than the 265 mpss?
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And to op... Do you think the 265 federals are wider than the 265 mpss?
Yes, I'd say about 5mm wider.
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mpss are not wide at all, they are small tires. you need to read on the mfg website about the tire. it shows tread depth, width, etc...
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Read the measurements? Is there a "real" measurement anywhere on it? Or is it safe to say 1 size larger?

I'm running mpss now and people tend to say they are almost a full size wider as well. Do you think re71rs and nittos are even wider than that?
Tirerack is pretty good with listing sizes... look for "section width"

careful with the RS4s they are pretty wide like half inch wider than the RE71r for example... or even the old RS3s
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Tirerack is pretty good with listing sizes...
Usually, yes. They don't offer Federals, though.
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Tirerack is pretty good with listing sizes... look for "section width"

careful with the RS4s they are pretty wide like half inch wider than the RE71r for example... or even the old RS3s
Awesome i will check that out.
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I guess 2 more shootout questions. Can anyone rank these which will last longest street driving?

And do the 4 listed below offer better dry grip than mpss? I assume yes?

Federal rsr
Hankook rs-4
Nitto nt05
And re71 R
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I guess 2 more shootout questions. Can anyone rank these which will last longest street driving?

And do the 4 listed below offer better dry grip than mpss? I assume yes?

Federal rsr
Hankook rs-4
Nitto nt05
And re71 R
Probably Hankook.
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I guess 2 more shootout questions. Can anyone rank these which will last longest street driving?

And do the 4 listed below offer better dry grip than mpss? I assume yes?

Federal rsr
Hankook rs-4
Nitto nt05
And re71 R
Don't confuse the Federal RSR with the Federal RSRR.

RS4 will probably last the longest. I have experience with the RS3 and they lasted quite well and initial reports show that the RS4 may last even longer.

Re71 will have the least life for sure and what I'm currently running.

I just ordered 255 square RSRR for $520. My track season should be starting soon so it will be interesting to see how they compare to the re71. They will be my DD/track tire.
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Just had a short drive to work on the RSRR so can't compare them to the RE71 just yet. They are just as loud as the RE71, but the noise is a little more high pitched. The RE71 seemed to hum at a lower pitch (more bassy). To me this give the impression that the RSRR is slightly quieter.

Can't compare the sidewall stiffness since the shop put less air in the RSRR than I run in the RE71.

Finger nail "test" makes me think the RSRR compound is just as soft (maybe slightly softer) than the RE71.

RSRR runs wider than the RE71 (255 vs 255) sidewall to sidewall, but I think the actual tread width is the same. RSRR is heavier too.

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Don't confuse the Federal RSR with the Federal RSRR.

RS4 will probably last the longest. I have experience with the RS3 and they lasted quite well and initial reports show that the RS4 may last even longer.

Re71 will have the least life for sure and what I'm currently running.

I just ordered 255 square RSRR for $520. My track season should be starting soon so it will be interesting to see how they compare to the re71. They will be my DD/track tire.
I did a little digging last night. Apparently the rsr is more of a drift tire while the rsrr is more of an ultimate performance/ track tire.

Can anyone confirm this?
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I did a little digging last night. Apparently the rsr is more of a drift tire while the rsrr is more of an ultimate performance/ track tire.

Can anyone confirm this?
True, RSRR does not replace the RSR. They are meant for two different activities.
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Just had a short drive to work on the RSRR so can't compare them to the RE71 just yet. They are just as loud as the RE71, but the noise is a little more high pitched. The RE71 seemed to hum at a lower pitch (more bassy). To me this give the impression that the RSRR is slightly quieter.

Can't compare the sidewall stiffness since the shop put less air in the RSRR than I run in the RE71.

Finger nail "test" makes me think the RSRR compound is just as soft (maybe slightly softer) than the RE71.

RSRR runs wider than the RE71 (255 vs 255) sidewall to sidewall, but I think the actual tread width is the same. RSRR is heavier too.
Any updates on dd grip or track use yet?
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Any updates on dd grip or track use yet?
Not much to update. Have yet to track the car again and I may not track the car anytime soon...if at all. After 15 years of track days the risk:reward ratio is diminishing. I would like to hit up Big Willow one last time just to compare the laptimes to the RE71. Though if I do track again it will probably be Auto Club Speedway where I've only used RS3's before.

DD notes...Sidewall is a little softer than the RE71 with the same tire pressures. I also think I'm still dealing with a little tread squirm since the tread is deeper (vs RE71) and still new.

As a DD tire it's a no brainer. Less than half the price of the RE71 with probably 97% of the performance. Should work fine in the wet (as long as there is no standing water). I also bet they last longer than the RE71. I hope to get 10k miles out of these haha.

~$1200 for 255/35/18 RE71 Vs. $520 for 255/35/18 RSRR
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DD notes...Sidewall is a little softer than the RE71 with the same tire pressures. I also think I'm still dealing with a little tread squirm since the tread is deeper (vs RE71) and still new.

As a DD tire it's a no brainer. Less than half the price of the RE71 with probably 97% of the performance. Should work fine in the wet (as long as there is no standing water). I also bet they last longer than the RE71. I hope to get 10k miles out of these haha.

~$1200 for 255/35/18 RE71 Vs. $520 for 255/35/18 RSRR
Thanks good to know. How do they hold up under heavy acceleration? Do you have any power mods done to your car?
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Thanks good to know. How do they hold up under heavy acceleration? Do you have any power mods done to your car?
Hold up fine. FBO, JB4, e35, map 6
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