[Mywifes335]

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[Pparana]

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

Thanks again for all of your input. The meth kit arrives on Thursday and will be installed next week.

I'll post dyno numbers before/after.

Btw, when running 50/50 mix meth (map 3 on JB4), does it make more power than 100 octane on Map 7?

I think you will find the power output close, prob more linear on the race gas. Meth is more on and off, the real limit of course is the turbo.

[Mywifes335]

That makes sense. Although I was hoping that meth would be a bit more juice due to the cooling properties.

But I ran race has the other day and it was pretty brutal. Fun.

[Mywifes335]

UPDATE:

I went in to get my meth kit installed today. After mounting the tank, some custom fabwork (aluminum plate behind the tank) to retain the trunk liner, routing the lines to the front, installing the FSB, nozzles etc....the shop owner goes to set up the meth map in my JB4.

Guess what? Because I (idiot) left the cable tucked under the cowl where the JB4 is, the USB was all corroded and even after cleaning it up it wouldn't connect.

Aaaaarghhhhhh!!!!!

All installed with Boost juice in the tank and we couldn't set it up and do the dyno runs. Idiot I Am.

Ordered another cable from BMS immediately. Going back next Wednesday to finalize the install and put down some hp numbers.

Wish me luck guys.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

UPDATE:

I went in to get my meth kit installed today. After mounting the tank, some custom fabwork (aluminum plate behind the tank) to retain the trunk liner, routing the lines to the front, installing the FSB, nozzles etc....the shop owner goes to set up the meth map in my JB4.

Guess what? Because I (idiot) left the cable tucked under the cowl where the JB4 is, the USB was all corroded and even after cleaning it up it wouldn't connect.

Aaaaarghhhhhh!!!!!

All installed with Boost juice in the tank and we couldn't set it up and do the dyno runs. Idiot I Am.

Ordered another cable from BMS immediately. Going back next Wednesday to finalize the install and put down some hp numbers.

Wish me luck guys.

GL

It's always the simple stuff that slows you down sometimes.

[Luminous]

I highly recommend the jb4 Bluetooth kit... Makes everything a lot simpler and easily accessible from your phone

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by Luminous

I highly recommend the jb4 Bluetooth kit... Makes everything a lot simpler and easily accessible from your phone

Luminous, your timing is perfect!

So my meth kit was installed last week but we couldn't interface with the JB4. It might have been the BMS DATA cable...so I got a new one AND the Bluetooth.

Fast forward to today, tried the cable. It didn't work AGAIN. Then installed the JB4 Bluetooth. It was getting 12V. And set the droid parameters as instructed...made sure firmware was up to date on droid too. Pressed "Connect"..,received error message... "Error, could not connect to JB4).

Checked connections, disconnected, reconnected, turned car off/on... Followed Burger instructions...nothing worked.

Could it be the port?

[Luminous]

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

Luminous, your timing is perfect!

So my meth kit was installed last week but we couldn't interface with the JB4. It might have been the BMS DATA cable...so I got a new one AND the Bluetooth.

Fast forward to today, tried the cable. It didn't work AGAIN. Then installed the JB4 Bluetooth. It was getting 12V. And set the droid parameters as instructed...made sure firmware was up to date on droid too. Pressed "Connect"..,received error message... "Error, could not connect to JB4).

Checked connections, disconnected, reconnected, turned car off/on... Followed Burger instructions...nothing worked.

Could it be the port?

Hm strange, if it's not working with a new usb cable it sounds like it could be the port that's damaged. I'd email burger and see if they'll send you a new board.

[JQuach07]

I installed BMS meth kit few days ago. 2 5cm nozzles. Since Oregon only has 91/92 I ran about 16PSI. Car is pretty awesome with meth on. When I daily I change back to map 2. Other then that I need to upgrade turbo and get flash tune.

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by JQuach07

I installed BMS meth kit few days ago. 2 5cm nozzles. Since Oregon only has 91/92 I ran about 16PSI. Car is pretty awesome with meth on. When I daily I change back to map 2. Other then that I need to upgrade turbo and get flash tune.

Cool! I'm also running 2 CM5 nozzles...

How did you set it up? The shop that did the install was supposed to set it up, but with all the JB4 connection issues, I dont think I'll be able to make it back. I'll have to do the setup myself.

[JQuach07]

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

Cool! I'm also running 2 CM5 nozzles...

How did you set it up? The shop that did the install was supposed to set it up, but with all the JB4 connection issues, I dont think I'll be able to make it back. I'll have to do the setup myself.

Really? I set everything up myself. It was pretty easy.

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by JQuach07

Really? I set everything up myself. It was pretty easy.

Cool. I heard that there's something about 40% something or other?

Which priming instructions did you use?

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by Luminous

Hm strange, if it's not working with a new usb cable it sounds like it could be the port that's damaged. I'd email burger and see if they'll send you a new board.

Update: been in contact with Jon from Burger. He's been very helpful. Looks like the problem might be the processor chip.

Anyone have any experience pulling out the chip and installing a new one?

Thanks!

[rwalker]

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

Update: been in contact with Jon from Burger. He's been very helpful. Looks like the problem might be the processor chip.

Anyone have any experience pulling out the chip and installing a new one?

Thanks!

back in the day before the bootloader, JB folks upgrading would have to pull the PIC, stick it in a ROM burner, flash new firmware, and re-install

good thing replacing the PIC is easy: just pry the PIC out of the socket with a small screwdriver... (or use a chip puller)

first: make sure you have full access. take the board completely out of any enclosure, disconnect all cables, etc.

next: take it slow. do a little prying at each end, bracing the chip as you pry to avoid bending the pins. kinda like torquing down a head in reverse

finally: press the new PIC into the socket with firm but even pressure so the pins run in squarely. make sure the notch on the PIC is aligned with the notch on the socket

HTH

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by rwalker

back in the day before the bootloader, JB folks upgrading would have to pull the PIC, stick it in a ROM burner, flash new firmware, and re-install

good thing replacing the PIC is easy: just pry the PIC out of the socket with a small screwdriver... (or use a chip puller)

first: make sure you have full access. take the board completely out of any enclosure, disconnect all cables, etc.

next: take it slow. do a little prying at each end, bracing the chip as you pry to avoid bending the pins. kinda like torquing down a head in reverse

finally: press the new PIC into the socket with firm but even pressure so the pins run in squarely. make sure the notch on the PIC is aligned with the notch on the socket

HTH

Thanks so much man! You and the other guys who've responded are the best!

[Mywifes335]

UPDATE: Been running local with meth and JB4 set on Map3. Have the additive on 45, scaling at 60, fail safe at 18.5. Haven't had the chance to get above 3rd gear (8at), but putting down ~16psi. Meth kicks in at 8psi to avoid bogging. Using boost juice.

Car pulls hard at full boost but straight race gas felt a bit quicker. Not sure.

Going to try 100 octane and run map7 this weekend.

Should I raise failsafe to 19psi?

[Mywifes335]

Question: I run boost juice with is ~49% methanol. Have you guys run higher meth mixtures? Was thinking of buying a drum of methanol and mixing my own with distilled water.

Please share your experiences. Thanks!

[Mywifes335]

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[dukeapenguin]

Originally Posted by Darkiedm4

I ran meth single cm10 in stock turbo 2 years ago. Then continued the same nozzle on stage1 turbo. Right before i got my stage2 turbo i switched to dual nozzle cm5/7 setup.

Never had any issues at all.

As for 14.5 psi on map2 for ewg cars its normal. Map2 on ewg cars is not an absolute boost map but a boost additive map. So it will run x boost on top of your stock boost curve. Depending ambient conditions your stock boost curve may be higher or lower.

Hi For the Stage2 Turbo with meth, do i need internal replacement like forged Piston and rods?

[PeterPure]

Originally Posted by dukeapenguin

Hi For the Stage2 Turbo with meth, do i need internal replacement like forged Piston and rods?

Nope not needed. I ran 50k km on my car with st2 turbo. No issue at all.

[BEM-S4]

Your dentist is going to hate you - have you seen what meth does to your teeth after extended use?

[Mywifes335]

After several thousand miles with meth injection and Pure Stage 2....it's pretty awesome. And you don't use as much as you might think.