ARK Performance GRiP Exhaust

bryan_G01 · 07-08-2018, 09:19 AM

catted and a sport cat vs not catted will make a world of difference in db...

The challenge is not only fighting drone, but also the deep low bass drone most exhausts have. I put my oem muffler on for shts and gigs and it still produced an insanely bass drone during startup/idle with valve open. Closed it was super quiet.

Should be interesting...
putting my delete and tuningwerks muffler up for sale.
Pm for fire sale pricing.

Neophyte · 07-08-2018, 05:24 PM

Here it is with the valve open.

Anthony235 · 07-09-2018, 09:31 AM

Interested in seeing how it fits with the MP rear diffuser....

bryan_G01 · 07-09-2018, 08:28 PM

if you look at how much it sticks out of the OEM from that video, it should line up evenly with the MPERF diffuser.

But, i'll know when it arrives.

Speedwell-Industries · 07-10-2018, 01:59 PM

How is the drone on these?

bryan_G01 · 07-14-2018, 03:08 PM

Neophyte · 07-14-2018, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smalaihollo

How is the drone on these?

It depends if you are decatted or not.

I have fabspeed sports cat and to be honest, I don't even feel the exhaust unless I'm being aggressive on the throttle and even then it's not loud enough to be obnoxious.

bryan_G01 · 07-16-2018, 08:32 PM

Hey everyone..

newflash... this doesn't fit AWD.

It probably says that on their website, but of course I didn't find out untill the oem exhaust was sawzalled and everything was off the car.

For those wondering how it looks with the Mperformance Diffuser.
It looks like this:

The tips do not stick out. They sit flush with that little scoop/ lip.
I don't think it looks bad, but adjustable tips would have been overall a better design to allow user preference.

so we have a SALE because of people who can't read good...me!

If you are RWD and would like the opportunity to save big, please DM me. I will not disclose pricing on the forum.

I need this gone before i decide to hack it up and make it work on the awd.

The muffler itself is a work of art. The piping is very well made, everything is top notch, very upset it doesn't fit AWD. The first hanger close to cat is about 2 inches off and the piping is off by about an inch which make them look like V.
If you are in the NY area, come pick it up soon.

It will fit right on the RWD 235, and probably a m2 for that matter.
Fits stock and mperformance diffuser for m235 RWD ONLY!

K8_M235i · 07-16-2018, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bryan_f22

Hey everyone..

newflash... this doesn't fit AWD.

It probably says that on their website, but of course I didn't find out untill the oem exhaust was sawzalled and everything was off the car.

[IMG]https://www.dhresource.com/600x600/f...pu_wYUo386.jpg[/IMG]
For those wondering how it looks with the Mperformance Diffuser.
It looks like this:

The tips do not stick out. They sit flush with that little scoop/ lip.
I don't think it looks bad, but adjustable tips would have been overall a better design to allow user preference.

so we have a SALE because of people who can't read good...me!

If you are RWD and would like the opportunity to save big, please DM me. I will not disclose pricing on the forum.

I need this gone before i decide to hack it up and make it work on the awd.

The muffler itself is a work of art. The piping is very well made, everything is top notch, very upset it doesn't fit AWD. The first hanger close to cat is about 2 inches off and the piping is off by about an inch which make them look like V.
If you are in the NY area, come pick it up soon.

It will fit right on the RWD 235, and probably a m2 for that matter.
Fits stock and mperformance diffuser for m235 RWD ONLY!

Someone with a rwd buy Bryan's exhaust!

I bought his old exhaust and now I feel bad.

Don't leave a forum member exhaust-less!

bryan_G01 · 07-16-2018, 10:39 PM

would anyone be interested in just the mid pipe section?

this way i can use the muffler still.

Drpoomanchu · 07-21-2018, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bryan_f22

Hey Bryan, sucks to see the exhaust isn't working out looks awesome but on a side note.... can u give me the part#'s for the copper DP gaskets and V band clamps you ordered from Brian K. I feel I have an exhaust leak at the DP I need to fix. Thnx and good luck with your exhaust.

bryan_G01 · 07-21-2018, 03:39 PM

too late, got it on the car.

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...6d&oe=5BDD464F

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...fd&oe=5BDDB702

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...90&oe=5C12B8AD

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...df&oe=5BDB332B

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...04&oe=5BD107BA

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...5c&oe=5BE1B9EF

Mid pipes are for sale, PM me for info.

---

My thoughts:
With the stock mid pipes and baby resonator still in there, I can say this is quite an interesting setup. I tried to order flanges to mate to the muffler but it just wasn't happening so the sawzall came out. Perfect cut, the muffler slipped right inside the OEM piping like a glove. It made a really good seal by itself, but I applies some wrap and band clamped it together. Check tips 50x times than tighten down all the bolts...

Since I have the stock mid pipe and this is basically an axle back bolt on for me I can only compare against the tuningwerks/OEM/fabspeed delete/ Ark's designed muffler.

Its also been 2 hours, so it will probably deepen with age.

It's damm quiet. Like the pops and bangs are quieter than OEM with the flap open. The tuningwerks had that growl but no drone and allowed pops and bangs to come through mostly... The delete, just nasty angry, piss off your neighbors, get thrown off track loud.

What i really like is I feel I lost no performance at all. Honestly, its all free flowing:
Turbo @ > catless DP > oem res > small muffler > resonator > tips = ~~

So i have this really quiet car ( again 2 hours off a delete so tommorow it may seem much louder) that has the same performance as when the muffler delete was on it (butt dyno).

It sounds like Knightrider... like all loud turbo zoooms and pfffsss. its pretty cool, i'm probably exaggerating... On decible level, its no where near 90db, my delete was a 92db... this maybe 80-82? Ill check when i can. Its all Turbo noises with a loud growl as I wind out gears and muffled bass downshifts which used to be the sound of m80s cracking.

Its a nice kit. At the price offered ($1500 or less) you have the AWE kit, the Milltek kit, and maybe the Dinan muffler with the mid pipe they sell. I can't compare on noise but I can say the quality is very good. The return policy was a little disappointing with a 25% restock fee and buyer pays shipping back. Rather than eat hundreds of dollars I decided to go old school and make it work with AWD. Ill get around to welding it up once Harbor freight has a sale.

Would I go with this kit?

If you are AWD. No. If your RWD, yes. Its quality. Great price.

I like the muffler setup, it is straight through and looks much more expensive than it is thank to the welding. It will also have others asking, "why the hell didn't they just use a U-bend?" And that is a great question? Regardless, It looks really nice. It doesn't seem as heavy as the Tuningwerks muffler or oem was, and I don't loose any power with it.

I can now go wide open without worry of being too loud which is nice.

Mid pipes are for sale.

bryan_G01 · 07-21-2018, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drpoomanchu

Hey Bryan, sucks to see the exhaust isn't working out looks awesome but on a side note.... can u give me the part#'s for the copper DP gaskets and V band clamps you ordered from Brian K. I feel I have an exhaust leak at the DP I need to fix. Thnx and good luck with your exhaust.

Realoem.com for all part numbers. Make sure you order the correct side. I didn't and had to run to bmw parts twice.

bryan_G01 · 07-21-2018, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bryan_f22

too late, got it on the car..

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...6d&oe=5BDD464F

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...fd&oe=5BDDB702

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...90&oe=5C12B8AD

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...df&oe=5BDB332B

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...04&oe=5BD107BA

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...5c&oe=5BE1B9EF

Mid pipes are for sale, PM me for info.

---

My thoughts:
With the stock mid pipes and baby resonator still in there, I can say this is quite an interesting setup. I tried to order flanges to mate to the muffler but it just wasn't happening so the sawzall came out. Perfect cut, the muffler slipped right inside the OEM piping like a glove. It made a really good seal by itself, but I applies some wrap and band clamped it together. Check tips 50x times than tighten down all the bolts...

Since I have the stock mid pipe and this is basically an axle back bolt on for me I can only compare against the tuningwerks/OEM/fabspeed delete/ Ark's designed muffler.

Its also been 2 hours, so it will probably deepen with age.

It's damm quiet. Like the pops and bangs are quieter than OEM with the flap open. The tuningwerks had that growl but no drone and allowed pops and bangs to come through mostly... The delete, just nasty angry, piss off your neighbors, get thrown off track loud.

What i really like is I feel I lost no performance at all. Honestly, its all free flowing:
Turbo @ > catless DP > oem res > small muffler > resonator > tips = ~~

So i have this really quiet car ( again 2 hours off a delete so tommorow it may seem much louder) that has the same performance as when the muffler delete was on it (butt dyno).

It sounds like Knightrider... like all loud turbo zoooms and pfffsss. its pretty cool, i'm probably exaggerating... On decible level, its no where near 90db, my delete was a 92db... this maybe 80-82? Ill check when i can. Its all Turbo noises with a loud growl as I wind out gears and muffled bass downshifts which used to be the sound of m80s cracking.

Its a nice kit. At the price offered ($1500 or less) you have the AWE kit, the Milltek kit, and maybe the Dinan muffler with the mid pipe they sell. I can't compare on noise but I can say the quality is very good. The return policy was a little disappointing with a 25% restock fee and buyer pays shipping back. Rather than eat hundreds of dollars I decided to go old school and make it work with AWD. Ill get around to welding it up once Harbor freight has a sale.

Would I go with this kit?

If you are AWD. No. If your RWD, yes. Its quality. Great price.

I like the muffler setup, it is straight through and looks much more expensive than it is thank to the welding. It will also have others asking, "why the hell didn't they just use a U-bend?" And that is a great question? Regardless, It looks really nice. It doesn't seem as heavy as the Tuningwerks muffler or oem was, and I don't loose any power with it.

I can now go wide open without worry of being too loud which is nice.

Mid pipes are for sale.

.

Next Day Update:

The cold start is still pretty loud and bassy, still need to give it a little gas to quiet her down..
Its not completely silent, you can here it, its not overly powerful, but it has its moments when its coming to life.

https://www.facebook.com/bryanduncan...6719706488474/

https://www.facebook.com/bryanduncan...6719712008612/

kivyee · 07-21-2018, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bryan_f22

, "why the hell didn't they just use a U-bend?" And that is a great question? Regardless, It looks really nice.

They couldn't use a U because the bend probably exceeds the bend radius of a typical mandrel bending machine.

Thanks for the review. I'm in the midst of looking at options to undelete the PO's hack job muffler delete...This looks like a viable one.

bryan_G01 · 07-22-2018, 02:05 PM

/Next Day Update:

The cold start is still pretty loud and bassy, still need to give it a little gas to quiet her down..
Its not completely silent, you can here it, its not overly powerful, but it has its moments when its coming to life.

Here are some videos from in car both windows down, sunroof closed:

there are pretty much the worst videos ever made, but maybe you can get an idea...

https://www.facebook.com/bryanduncan...6719706488474/

https://www.facebook.com/bryanduncan...6719712008612/

https://www.facebook.com/bryanduncan...6719874372671/

https://www.facebook.com/bryanduncan...6719875372696/

https://www.facebook.com/bryanduncan...6719875972711/

Speedwell-Industries · 07-24-2018, 03:38 PM

Seriously, thank you for sharing all the pictures, unboxing, sound clips!!!

Awesome work!

bryan_G01 · 01-11-2019, 10:47 PM

my setup is for sale if any one wants it.

07-08-2018, 09:19 AM	#23
bryan_G01 Lieutenant Colonel 1165 Rep 1,931 Posts Drives: like i stole it... Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	catted and a sport cat vs not catted will make a world of difference in db... The challenge is not only fighting drone, but also the deep low bass drone most exhausts have. I put my oem muffler on for shts and gigs and it still produced an insanely bass drone during startup/idle with valve open. Closed it was super quiet. Should be interesting... putting my delete and tuningwerks muffler up for sale. Pm for fire sale pricing. __________________ www.nybmwcca.org Current Cars: 1995 M3 Coupe Manual Alpine White 1997 M3 Sedan Auto Cosmo Black Metallic 2018 x3 m40 Auto Grey Metallic
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bryan_G01 Lieutenant Colonel 1165 Rep 1,931 Posts Drives: like i stole it... Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	have some pics of the unboxing: https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...47&oe=5BD68CE7 https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...b2&oe=5BE96530 https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...b7&oe=5BE575CE https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...7e&oe=5BD34171 https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...9b&oe=5BE2131E https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...8e&oe=5BD049D9 https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...93&oe=5BDCECB9 https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...4e&oe=5BCA9315 https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...6e&oe=5BD51261 https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...bf&oe=5BD1A79F Just missing the little wire to connect the valve since i lost mine and the m6x16 nut and bolts to connect the valve and im ready to install. I went ahead and got some new clamps and gaskets from brian keller @ sun motors prior to the install so all new parts will be used. __________________ www.nybmwcca.org Current Cars: 1995 M3 Coupe Manual Alpine White 1997 M3 Sedan Auto Cosmo Black Metallic 2018 x3 m40 Auto Grey Metallic
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bryan_G01 Lieutenant Colonel 1165 Rep 1,931 Posts Drives: like i stole it... Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	Hey everyone.. newflash... this doesn't fit AWD. It probably says that on their website, but of course I didn't find out untill the oem exhaust was sawzalled and everything was off the car. For those wondering how it looks with the Mperformance Diffuser. It looks like this: The tips do not stick out. They sit flush with that little scoop/ lip. I don't think it looks bad, but adjustable tips would have been overall a better design to allow user preference. so we have a SALE because of people who can't read good...me! If you are RWD and would like the opportunity to save big, please DM me. I will not disclose pricing on the forum. I need this gone before i decide to hack it up and make it work on the awd. The muffler itself is a work of art. The piping is very well made, everything is top notch, very upset it doesn't fit AWD. The first hanger close to cat is about 2 inches off and the piping is off by about an inch which make them look like V. If you are in the NY area, come pick it up soon. It will fit right on the RWD 235, and probably a m2 for that matter. Fits stock and mperformance diffuser for m235 RWD ONLY! __________________ www.nybmwcca.org Current Cars: 1995 M3 Coupe Manual Alpine White 1997 M3 Sedan Auto Cosmo Black Metallic 2018 x3 m40 Auto Grey Metallic Last edited by bryan_G01; 07-16-2018 at 08:38 PM..
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bryan_G01 Lieutenant Colonel 1165 Rep 1,931 Posts Drives: like i stole it... Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	would anyone be interested in just the mid pipe section? this way i can use the muffler still. __________________ www.nybmwcca.org Current Cars: 1995 M3 Coupe Manual Alpine White 1997 M3 Sedan Auto Cosmo Black Metallic 2018 x3 m40 Auto Grey Metallic
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07-21-2018, 03:39 PM	#34
bryan_G01 Lieutenant Colonel 1165 Rep 1,931 Posts Drives: like i stole it... Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	too late, got it on the car. https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...6d&oe=5BDD464F https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...fd&oe=5BDDB702 https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...90&oe=5C12B8AD https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...df&oe=5BDB332B https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...04&oe=5BD107BA https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...5c&oe=5BE1B9EF Mid pipes are for sale, PM me for info. --- My thoughts: With the stock mid pipes and baby resonator still in there, I can say this is quite an interesting setup. I tried to order flanges to mate to the muffler but it just wasn't happening so the sawzall came out. Perfect cut, the muffler slipped right inside the OEM piping like a glove. It made a really good seal by itself, but I applies some wrap and band clamped it together. Check tips 50x times than tighten down all the bolts... Since I have the stock mid pipe and this is basically an axle back bolt on for me I can only compare against the tuningwerks/OEM/fabspeed delete/ Ark's designed muffler. Its also been 2 hours, so it will probably deepen with age. It's damm quiet. Like the pops and bangs are quieter than OEM with the flap open. The tuningwerks had that growl but no drone and allowed pops and bangs to come through mostly... The delete, just nasty angry, piss off your neighbors, get thrown off track loud. What i really like is I feel I lost no performance at all. Honestly, its all free flowing: Turbo @ > catless DP > oem res > small muffler > resonator > tips = ~~ So i have this really quiet car ( again 2 hours off a delete so tommorow it may seem much louder) that has the same performance as when the muffler delete was on it (butt dyno). It sounds like Knightrider... like all loud turbo zoooms and pfffsss. its pretty cool, i'm probably exaggerating... On decible level, its no where near 90db, my delete was a 92db... this maybe 80-82? Ill check when i can. Its all Turbo noises with a loud growl as I wind out gears and muffled bass downshifts which used to be the sound of m80s cracking. Its a nice kit. At the price offered ($1500 or less) you have the AWE kit, the Milltek kit, and maybe the Dinan muffler with the mid pipe they sell. I can't compare on noise but I can say the quality is very good. The return policy was a little disappointing with a 25% restock fee and buyer pays shipping back. Rather than eat hundreds of dollars I decided to go old school and make it work with AWD. Ill get around to welding it up once Harbor freight has a sale. Would I go with this kit? If you are AWD. No. If your RWD, yes. Its quality. Great price. I like the muffler setup, it is straight through and looks much more expensive than it is thank to the welding. It will also have others asking, "why the hell didn't they just use a U-bend?" And that is a great question? Regardless, It looks really nice. It doesn't seem as heavy as the Tuningwerks muffler or oem was, and I don't loose any power with it. I can now go wide open without worry of being too loud which is nice. Mid pipes are for sale. __________________ www.nybmwcca.org Current Cars: 1995 M3 Coupe Manual Alpine White 1997 M3 Sedan Auto Cosmo Black Metallic 2018 x3 m40 Auto Grey Metallic Last edited by bryan_G01; 07-21-2018 at 04:11 PM..
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bryan_G01 Lieutenant Colonel 1165 Rep 1,931 Posts Drives: like i stole it... Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	/Next Day Update: The cold start is still pretty loud and bassy, still need to give it a little gas to quiet her down.. Its not completely silent, you can here it, its not overly powerful, but it has its moments when its coming to life. Here are some videos from in car both windows down, sunroof closed: there are pretty much the worst videos ever made, but maybe you can get an idea... https://www.facebook.com/bryanduncan...6719706488474/ https://www.facebook.com/bryanduncan...6719712008612/ https://www.facebook.com/bryanduncan...6719874372671/ https://www.facebook.com/bryanduncan...6719875372696/ https://www.facebook.com/bryanduncan...6719875972711/ __________________ www.nybmwcca.org Current Cars: 1995 M3 Coupe Manual Alpine White 1997 M3 Sedan Auto Cosmo Black Metallic 2018 x3 m40 Auto Grey Metallic Last edited by bryan_G01; 07-22-2018 at 02:22 PM..
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