Just finished stage 2 hex tune. Traction? What traction?

serrated · 01-22-2019, 12:00 AM

The low end torque is insane. I did 0-60 runs in 25 degree weather a couple weeks ago when I only had stage 1 hex tune and did 4.21s.

Today it was 6 degrees warmer and I'm now stage 2 hex tune with wagner 200 cell downpipe and I couldn't get a decent run due to traction. Best run was 4.36s starting in 2nd gear and that was with the tires blazing the entire run. I can't wait to try when I can actually hook up. This thing rips!

aerodavew · 01-23-2019, 10:02 AM

If you have summer tires, they will be very hard at that temp.

hwntime · 01-23-2019, 10:57 AM

LOL that vid is actually funny because you couldn't hook up even for a millisecond

Joe240 · 01-23-2019, 11:09 AM

Really wish there was some more ecu tunes for the b58. I’d enjoy a hex tune for sure >.<

serrated · 01-23-2019, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by aerodavew

If you have summer tires, they will be very hard at that temp.

I have winter tires. Michelin Alpin PA4

They did great on an even colder day with stage 1. Stage 2 apparently added enough low end torque to make it hard to hook now

serrated · 01-23-2019, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe240

Really wish there was some more ecu tunes for the b58. I’d enjoy a hex tune for sure >.<

Did the dinan sport tune for wife's 340i x-drive and it worked great and was cheap and removable. I'd still prefer a flash tune but the piggybacks will get you by for now

XutvJet · 01-23-2019, 11:20 AM

What about just flash stalling the torque converter rather than stalling it for a few seconds to 2,000 rpms and building boost?

How easy was the downpipe install?

Traction should be a lot better once all the salt residue is off the streets. Earlier in the week I was all over the place in my stock 6MT on dry roads. That salt residue is terrible. I could punch it from a 2nd gear roll at 3000rpms and shred the Aplin PA4 tires.

serrated · 01-23-2019, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by XutvJet

What about just flash stalling the torque converter rather than stalling it for a few seconds to 2,000 rpms and building boost?

How easy was the downpipe install?

Traction should be a lot better once all the salt residue is off the streets. Earlier in the week I was all over the place in my stock 6MT on dry roads. That salt residue is terrible. I could punch it from a 2nd gear roll at 3000rpms and shred the Aplin PA4 tires.

flash stalling had the same result. the best run I did was brake boost 2nd gear start in manual mode, but even then once the rpm's got up midway it started spinning again. I'm curious to see how it does on a nice day when tires are stickier

downpipe was easiest of the mods I did. lift helps a ton but I don't think it would be bad even on ramps or jack stands

XutvJet · 01-23-2019, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by serrated

flash stalling had the same result. the best run I did was brake boost 2nd gear start in manual mode, but even then once the rpm's got up midway it started spinning again. I'm curious to see how it does on a nice day when tires are stickier

Damn. That steady surge and build of turbo torque can really overwhelm the rear tires on these cars. It's so different from an NA motor, even a torquey one. The deep gearing of the 8AT probably isn't doing it any favors either.

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was easiest of the mods I did. lift helps a ton but I don't think it would be bad even on ramps or jack stands

Good to hear. I'll be doing it on jack stands. Luckily I've got all sorts of tools and the exhaust is very clean.

Joe240 · 01-23-2019, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by serrated

Did the dinan sport tune for wife's 340i x-drive and it worked great and was cheap and removable. I'd still prefer a flash tune but the piggybacks will get you by for now

I’m running jb4 map 5 at the moment with other mods as well. Ran a 7.76 at 88.9mph in the 1/8th. Wanting a flash tune to help with the plateau of power at the high end because of fuel limits. Putting some PS4S in 18s on the car in a few weeks. Should cut that time down a tad more so long as there’s no wheel spin (even with awd I was spinning enough at the strip).

serrated · 01-23-2019, 02:41 PM

Nice! Ps4s will definitely help. They did on my dinan stage 4 M2 quite a bit

Joe240 · 01-23-2019, 03:57 PM

For sure, specially because I was on Conti DWS06 tires. Not meant for dragging haha

serrated · 01-23-2019, 04:35 PM

Lol yup. The contis just don't hold a candle to the Michelin offerings

ghost.M · 02-03-2019, 10:20 PM

I've been running the Stg 2 HEX tune since September although I was dealing with a boost leak for much of the fall. Finally got that fixed a few weeks ago and it feels far more powerful than it was with the boost leak. Data logged the tune with MHD and boost spikes to 22 psi @ ~3300 rpm on a 3rd gear pull which is why you feel so much power in the midrange! I'm running square 225/40 Hankook I-Cept evo2 W320 which have been phenomenal in winter conditions but I have traction issues in 3rd gear getting on the freeway at more than half throttle. DSC will sometimes flash on 4th gear WOT pulls in Sport + and sometimes the car feels as though it's trying to break loose in 5th gear @ WOT sometimes. This definitely won't happen with my summer tires but makes winter driving in SLC really interesting to say the least haha! My car is 6MT btw!

Taskmaster · 02-03-2019, 10:39 PM

That rear end must feel scary.

VF-Engineering · 02-05-2019, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe240

Really wish there was some more ecu tunes for the b58. I’d enjoy a hex tune for sure >.<

Coming soon!

We've already begun initial development and are working on
testing and validation across additional software versions and
vehicle models.

We are definitely excited about these new applications. It will
likely be an early spring release, with all of the the same
performance, consistency, and reliability as what our
current customers have become accustomed to!

Joe240 · 02-05-2019, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by VF-Engineering

Coming soon!

We've already begun initial development and are working on
testing and validation across additional software versions and
vehicle models.

We are definitely excited about these new applications. It will
likely be an early spring release, with all of the the same
performance, consistency, and reliability as what our
current customers have become accustomed to!

That’s fantastic news! If you’re looking for a beta tester, I’d be happy to help

VF-Engineering · 02-05-2019, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe240

That’s fantastic news! If you’re looking for a beta tester, I’d be happy to help

If only you were in So Cal!

We start local so we can get the car on the dyno, then it
goes out on the road, and whenever possible we also try
to schedule some track time.

That being said, once we're ready to collect some driver
feedback in other regions, maybe I can pass along a
discount code for a few luck 2ADDICTS members.

Drop us a PM with your direct contact info and I'll keep
you in the loop.

ghost.M · 02-05-2019, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Taskmaster

That rear end must feel scary.

Yes it can be - it's mostly fun though haha!

Taskmaster · 02-08-2019, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ghost.M

Yes it can be - it's mostly fun though haha!

Not for me. I’m on 255 AS tires and with the JB4, the car felt like the rear wanted to kick out too much. Will be checking the alignment soon.

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serrated Second Lieutenant 260 Rep 290 Posts Drives: M2 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Middle of the Map iTrader: (0)	Just finished stage 2 hex tune. Traction? What traction? The low end torque is insane. I did 0-60 runs in 25 degree weather a couple weeks ago when I only had stage 1 hex tune and did 4.21s. Today it was 6 degrees warmer and I'm now stage 2 hex tune with wagner 200 cell downpipe and I couldn't get a decent run due to traction. Best run was 4.36s starting in 2nd gear and that was with the tires blazing the entire run. I can't wait to try when I can actually hook up. This thing rips!
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01-23-2019, 11:20 AM	#7
XutvJet Major General 5551 Rep 5,369 Posts Drives: 2011 Cayman Base, 2016 M235 Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Kansas City iTrader: (-1)	What about just flash stalling the torque converter rather than stalling it for a few seconds to 2,000 rpms and building boost? How easy was the downpipe install? Traction should be a lot better once all the salt residue is off the streets. Earlier in the week I was all over the place in my stock 6MT on dry roads. That salt residue is terrible. I could punch it from a 2nd gear roll at 3000rpms and shred the Aplin PA4 tires. __________________ The forest was shrinking, but the Trees kept voting for the Axe, for the Axe was clever and convinced the Trees that because his handle was made of wood, he was one of them.
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ghost.M Private 23 Rep 66 Posts Drives: 2015 BSM M235i 6MT Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: LA iTrader: (0)	I've been running the Stg 2 HEX tune since September although I was dealing with a boost leak for much of the fall. Finally got that fixed a few weeks ago and it feels far more powerful than it was with the boost leak. Data logged the tune with MHD and boost spikes to 22 psi @ ~3300 rpm on a 3rd gear pull which is why you feel so much power in the midrange! I'm running square 225/40 Hankook I-Cept evo2 W320 which have been phenomenal in winter conditions but I have traction issues in 3rd gear getting on the freeway at more than half throttle. DSC will sometimes flash on 4th gear WOT pulls in Sport + and sometimes the car feels as though it's trying to break loose in 5th gear @ WOT sometimes. This definitely won't happen with my summer tires but makes winter driving in SLC really interesting to say the least haha! My car is 6MT btw! __________________ 2015 BSM M235i 6MT Dinan Turbo\|KWV3\|GC Camber Plates\|OEMConcept 437M\|Kumho PS91 225/255\|Wagner HFC\|MHD Custom Tune (Weekend Warrior) 2017 Alpine White X3 35i M-Sport (Daily Driver) 2020 Alpine White X7 40i M-Sport (Wife's Car)
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