[Jasond13]

Originally Posted by M-terkait

now, no. i didn't like the whooshing.

Well then you really have not put it to the test as I have for 7000 miles. I love the noises that come from it I want them still, but Trust me it has issues. The clamps kept coming loose and air would slip through and cause all sorts of issues that's why I kept tightening it.

[Regardless]

Good info on this thread.. Glad I came across it..

I was just about to jump on an intake..

It seems those with AFE intakes don't have this problem?

[ocN55]

Originally Posted by Regardless

Good info on this thread.. Glad I came across it..

I was just about to jump on an intake..

It seems those with AFE intakes don't have this problem?

I'm told it does the same thing.

For the record I haven't had any issues with the bms in a while. Also the new obd firmware for jb4 will let you run the intake without the MAF, this should eliminate the issue all together.

[Jasond13]

Originally Posted by ocN55

I'm told it does the same thing.

For the record I haven't had any issues with the bms in a while. Also the new obd firmware for jb4 will let you run the intake without the MAF, this should eliminate the issue all together.

They have already admitted to the issue I guess your one of the lucky ones. Do you have to buy the new OBDII device as well? Or you do a firmware upgrade to your JB4? Because I see no sense in having to buy the OBDII device if I have the JB4. And if it's a firmware update where is it posted I would like to test it? Still even if it works your still not escaping the heat from the engine bay.

[ocN55]

Originally Posted by Jasond13

So you have to buy the new OBDII device as well? Or you do a firmware upgrade to your JB4? Because I see no sense in having to buy the OBDII device if I have the JB4. And if it a firmware update where is it posted I would like to test it? Still even if it works your still not escaping the heat from the engine bay.

Yeah I would pick the new OBDII CANBus for $15. All further updates will be OBD based so you will need it if you want to update your JB4 to the latest and greatest. Also the features you get are super neat, finally in dash map switching. The fw can be found here http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30750


And as for you last comment, this is a very contentious topic but Terry has tested and found that although the intake does take in some hot air, ultimately it is sucking more air overall for a better gains over the stock intake, at least for those running higher boost applications.

[Jasond13]

Originally Posted by ocN55

Yeah I would pick the new OBDII CANBus for $15. All further updates will be OBD based so you will need it if you want to update your JB4 to the latest and greatest. Also the features you get are super neat, finally in dash map switching. The fw can be found here [url]http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3075

And as for you last comment, this is a very contentious topic but Terry has tested and found that although the intake does take in some hot air, ultimately it is sucking more air overall for a better gains over the stock intake, at least for those running higher boost applications.

And this works on the M235i? Ok that what it says thanks for the info for some reason I have not seen this on burgers site. The Intake will have to be tested I need some hard data not hear say I will test this at the strip but thanks again.

[JasonPetrie]

i have the same issue with my Injen intake on my 235. I've had it on for about a week and everything was fine. sounds great, it even felt like the car pulled harder. then out of nowhere I got a CEL with a code 00172 for running rich in bank 1. I really don't want to put the stock box back in, but i don't know if i have a choice. The car definitely doesn't seem to pull as hard now.

[CONTROL ONE]

So I have an unfortunate update regarding my BMS and cold starts.

Just over 2 weeks ago, Jason and Terry sent me a new revision they have of the intake tube that is supposed to be more heat resistant (as my last one warped from heat).

Week 1 - awesome, felt like when I first put it on last year. Noise was back, hesitation and stutter on cold start was not.

Week 2 - hello problems. same cold start issues, same hesitation issues, same near stalling issues.

Week 3 - removed BMS intake, put stock airbox back on and problems have disappeared.

[chaddy74]

Yup i figured as much !! AFE,BMS are junk unfortunately mate ! I also believe there is a forum member that is or was running the Injen and it has the same issue !! No doubt there is some gains there but hesitations and crazy startup is not want I wanted from a new car with some basic mods.

i have the awe going on so i will advise if problem presents with that also

Originally Posted by CONTROL ONE

So I have an unfortunate update regarding my BMS and cold starts.

Just over 2 weeks ago, Jason and Terry sent me a new revision they have of the intake tube that is supposed to be more heat resistant (as my last one warped from heat).

Week 1 - awesome, felt like when I first put it on last year. Noise was back, hesitation and stutter on cold start was not.

Week 2 - hello problems. same cold start issues, same hesitation issues, same near stalling issues.

Week 3 - removed BMS intake, put stock airbox back on and problems have disappeared.

[JibHonk]

Originally Posted by chaddy74

Yup i figured as much !! AFE,BMS are junk unfortunately mate ! I also believe there is a forum member that is or was running the Injen and it has the same issue !! No doubt there is some gains there but hesitations and crazy startup is not want I wanted from a new car with some basic mods.

i have the awe going on so i will advise if pr

Just because you spent $1,000 for an overpriced intake doesn't make the other products "junk". You always have these crazy opinions about you with nothing other than hearsay to back the claim up. Getting sick of it, "mate".

[chaddy74]

BMS intake is junk i have tried it , AFE tried that also .. it causes issues ! Go Honk ya horn somewhere else ... i'm entitled to have an opinion especially when I have installed and played with most intakes on the market.

[ocN55]

Originally Posted by JibHonk

Just because you spent $1,000 for an overpriced intake doesn't make the other products "junk". You always have these crazy opinions about you with nothing other than hearsay to back the claim up. Getting sick of it, "mate".

+1

Originally Posted by chaddy74

BMS intake is junk !

Seriously man, enlighten us all

[chaddy74]

It causes cold start issues and hesitations ... where as the factory system doesn't present this issue. Its pretty black and white really. Not to mention sucking in Hot engine bay air = Win LOL ! Wouldn't you agree ?

Originally Posted by ocN55

+1



Seriously man, enlighten us all

[ocN55]

Originally Posted by chaddy74

It causes cold start issues and hesitations ... where as the factory system doesn't present this issue. Its pretty black and white really. Not to mention sucking in Hot engine bay air = Win LOL ! Wouldn't you agree ?

Radiant heat in the engine bay is nothing is comparison to the heat already in the turbo. You really just want more air into the turbo, "hot" or cold, end of story.

A benign cold start issue is a small price to pay for more power, for me at least. And fwiw I haven't had this issue since I started this thread and I especially don't expect it to happen with me running mafless.

[Bimmermann091]

So I've had the BMS intake installed for about a week, and already the engine is bogging down, and rough engine start where even the car stalled out! I contacted BMS to return the product and this is what they told me. I also bought the JB4 but it has yet to be installed.

"You can install the JB4 and disconnect the MAF sensor on the intake and put the check engine light delete setting on in the JB4. The first thing I recommend is remove the cored to the MAF sensor and see if the problems go away. It will cause a check engine light but ignore it."

[chaddy74]

Oh thats really unfortunate..... probably should persist with it for a little longer too see if it will go away ?

Originally Posted by Bimmermann091

So I've had the BMS intake installed for about a week, and already the engine is bogging down, and rough engine start where even the car stalled out! I contacted BMS to return the product and this is what they told me. I also bought the JB4 but it has yet to be installed.

"You can install the JB4 and disconnect the MAF sensor on the intake and put the check engine light delete setting on in the JB4. The first thing I recommend is remove the cored to the MAF sensor and see if the problems go away. It will cause a check engine light but ignore it."

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Originally Posted by ocN55

I'm told it does the same thing.

For the record I haven't had any issues with the bms in a while. Also the new obd firmware for jb4 will let you run the intake without the MAF, this should eliminate the issue all together.

The new JB4 OBDII firmware that allows you run run without the MAF like an N54 is an F series game changer.

Mike

[pimp4cheddar]

So would the end result of this tread be to not bother with an intake and just keep OEM on?

I plan on going with a tune and catless dp's...would the stock intake do the job?

[ocN55]

Originally Posted by pimp4cheddar

So would the end result of this tread be to not bother with an intake and just keep OEM on?

I plan on going with a tune and catless dp's...would the stock intake do the job?

As the OP of this thread, get the intake. I haven't had any issues for months and I enjoy the sound too much. Worst case, sell the intake and take a small loss.

[Pray for Mojo]

Never had an issue with the intake.

[Kasteel]

The temperatures are getting colder and during cold starts I also experience bad idle/hickup etc. I think I'll change back to stock or an other intake, only thing I would like to know HOW bad is this for the engine.
Solutions so far are running with no MAF, which doesn't feel as a solution to me, is the car perhaps running too lean when cold?

[Fabspeed Motorsport]

I have the BMS intake as well and have had this happen a couple times. It usually happens when I haven't driven the car for a couple days and it is really cold outside.