[buckybadger]

Originally Posted by VisualEcho

I don't like the front air intakes.
I don't like the new wheels.
I don't like the grill.
I don't like the chunky side mirrors.
I don't like the oddly-shaped rear end and how it pokes out at the bottom.


I like the tire sidewall (special editions I think)
I like the rear flare (looks HUGE).
I like the hood.
I love the cerium silver of the emblem (same as before).

I'm on the fence about the middle of the seats.

Stop complaining and enjoy the car!
Soon you will have no option but to buy EVs.
You will then look back and think what an idiot you were.

[Colinv6]

Originally Posted by F15Lover

Angel eyes BMW, angel eyes. Overall I think it's a looker and will grow on people overtime. A la G8X.

The G8x abortion hasn’t grown on me at all, Infact I hate it more and more.


This however, is right up my street! So tempted to just get one!!

[nicksm3]

Its so damn weird and well.....doesnt make sense. Not that appealing, hopefully they take it up a notch with the M2 because all hope is lost with BMW in the exterior styling department, My 2 cents.

[nemex12]

I know this headlights remind me of something but I cannot seem to find the right car...

[bjcarls]

I like it. The only negative is the front vents, they look very Lexus to me. Not bad, but they don't have a BMW vibe. Seems to simple and stamped, versus molded.

[CRtoE92]

Yay! No pig nose grill on 2 series, they knew they needed to sell the car befores trying their design cues

[advantage20]

Originally Posted by nemex12

I know this headlights remind me of something but I cannot seem to find the right car...

[VisualEcho]

Originally Posted by buckybadger

Stop complaining and enjoy the car!

I am absolutely enjoying my OG M2, and my Exige.

Originally Posted by buckybadger

Soon you will have no option but to buy EVs.

Not in my country in my lifetime.

Screw EV's.

[nemex12]

Originally Posted by advantage20

Exactly, I knew it was one of the little ones (less pricey ones).

[-c-]

Originally Posted by advantage20

[IMG]https://i.ibb.co/ZcQTvNb/1625325119163-1-2.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://i.ibb.co/DwYfL8D/20210705-201827-2.jpg[/IMG]

Lol. Oops !

Yea they should study what's out their so that doesn't happen!

[mbanck]

Originally Posted by afwares

Can't help but be disappointed about that. As I wrote in the World Premiere thread, having seen this in YT vids I love the look. With what looks like the interior from the 4-Series, or close, they're really taking the 2-Series upscale and with the cool exterior cues like power dome hood and M-like mirrors, the limited slip and great engine this would be an unbeatable package at the price point. But it's disappointing that the MT is gone for all but the M cars. I know the standard response is that it's all about take-rate and profits, but this is the one area where I thought BMW might say take-rate be damned and keep the MT just for brand perception.

I think it's mostly about (fleet) emissions, manuals are way worse than automatics at this point. E.g. the manual 318d has 119-110 g/km whereas the automatic has 107-99 g/km.

So BMW is making an exception and says take-rate be damned, but that's only for 6-cylinder M high performance cars.

But who knows; the Z4 20i can currently still be had with a manual in Europe, maybe the 220i will have a manual option at some point as well.

[advantage20]

To be fair it's probably BMW who started with the wavy headlights in the first place (E46, E65...), and all manufacturers have been so much all over the place that this resemblance here doesn't mean BMW have actually copied Audi. It's just the first thing that spontaneously pops to mind.

[cooolone2]

Disgusting...

That is all! Simple...

Guess my 20' M240iX is with me for the duration! Lol

They missed the memo, of it isn't broke, don't fix it! Was no need to "Redesign"... When maybe a few little tweaks would do! Here they went overboard and destroyed a pretty good looking car, made it look like an Asian import! Good job!

[M3GymNut]

Rear leg room

[-c-]

Originally Posted by advantage20

To be fair it's probably BMW who started with the wavy headlights in the first place (E46, E65...), and all manufacturers have been so much all over the place that this resemblance here doesn't mean BMW have actually copied Audi. It's just the first thing that spontaneously pops to mind.

Yea but when someone makes something like that we have to be still mindful and make sure our new design doesn't resemble it as then you get the whole chicken or the egg debate.



All manufacturers are not immune to having other manufacturers details show up in their designs as designers move from one manufacturer to another sometimes things get baked in. But it's also good to keep your stuff fresh and not resemble a model that came out years ago.

I remember when the head of design of Alpha Romeo showed up at Subaru and we all know what happened their

[M2forme]

Looks like a Lexus with the hard tapers which are ugly and UN-BMW (especially the rear).

[02M3ForMe]

Practically half of the cars on the road now have some sort of Hofmeister kink. Does that mean BMWs are indistinguishable from all of those cars?

BMW can't help that elements of their designs have been copied and imitated by practically every other manufacturer.

As always, it's the subtle details of the execution that act as the signature to an auto make's design language. Ask yourself why you can immediately tell that the BMW Hofmeister kink is from BMW and the Hyundai Genesis version isn't. Same with corona lights, strong front-to-back character line, etc. All stolen, but BMW's versions still manage to be distinct.

[M3ZCPNYC]

I can't wait for the values of the old
BMW to sky rocket since bmw won't get their head out of their ass with design and implementation. Fake grills no air vents and a rear that looks like Disney drew it, no thanks

[John Tanglewood]

Originally Posted by VisualEcho

I am absolutely enjoying my OG M2, and my Exige.

Not in my country in my lifetime.

Screw EV's.

Foolish man

[VisualEcho]

Originally Posted by John Tanglewood

Foolish man

Careful calling people fools when you don't know the future.

I also just noticed the picture in your sig. Is that your car.

[zipstic]

Originally Posted by AndrewC1989

I mean it works for Porsche

I had the same train of thought and hypothesis as you. It seems as though the overall consensus of Porsche's design, specifically their two door coupes, is that it hasn't changed too dramatically over the decades, so I figured I would see what the data says.

Here are Porsche US sales of their 911/718/Boxter/Cayman over the last 5 years:

2020: 12,287
2019: 13,145
2018: 14,923
2017: 14,057
2016: 15,161

2020 was a rough year for a lot of auto manufacturer's, but the overall trend is going in the wrong direction for unit sales. Of course we know the industry trend that consumers are moving from cars to SUVs so there's a natural shift in demand. We're seeing that same shift very clearly in BMW too. BMW now sells more light trucks than passenger cars, and that's with them classifying the X1 and X2 as passenger cars, which could be argued.

I wasn't easily able to find Porsche's global sales, so that data could show the opposite results as compared to the US and I could be 100% wrong. However, I think our claim and hypothesis that minimal design changes for Porsche is working is in question.

Would Porsche be better off by drastically changing the designs of their two seat coupes? Or would that have resulted in poorer year over year results with the trend of consumers migrating to SUVs? What if they kept the 911 design in check, but pushed the envelope on the design of the 718? Would that have resulted in better sales? Those are questions we will never definitively know.

[Cadillac]

Originally Posted by fanofbmwe46

Rear is still a bit odd to me but the front has grown tremendously on me and has this color. Super excited to see what the M2 will look like.

After 4 years with the OG M2, I have the comp due for delivery this month.
I am pretty sure the G87 will come after this, I like this design and the new G87 M2 will see me out in my retirement years.
At my age the only certainty is that it won't be the purple colour😂