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      03-09-2023, 11:47 AM   #23
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The way I see it,...Tesla tech is cool. Yeah, you get a lot. But when I look inside Teslas, I don't see a lot of "Tech",...I see "Minimalistic" environment of which I've yet come to terms with desiring to spend so much money,...yet appear to get so little. Sure, Tesla has a head start over other manufacturers (...Elon's gamble paid off). Yet, I'd much have an i4 over a Tesla,...especially after having driven a Model 3 and i4 M50i. The Tesla conveyed 'grocery getter environment',...the i4 M50i conveyed 'Fighter Pilot Cockpit'!

Either way, after attending the recent DC Auto Show,...I checked out the BEV offerings and I must say there are some models worth a second look. Say what you will, IMO, Tesla's styling won't make me do the "look back" as I walk away from my vehicle. Anyway,...GL with your search.
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      03-09-2023, 06:54 PM   #24
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Tesla is under investigation for the steering wheels coming off in the Y models.

So along with all the other issues I would never buy one.

There are better alternatives in my opinion if you want a EV.
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      03-10-2023, 12:56 AM   #25
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OP, you already know the answer posting on this forum. There's a large population of folks here who are anti-Tesla. I suggest doing the research, driving both cars, and take it from there.
+1... while you're at it OP, go ahead and try out the IX or another EV manufacturer altogether. My brother has the model Y and he's had problems with it since he got it. He's actually looking to trade up and has an IX on order.
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      03-10-2023, 03:20 PM   #26
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i recommend the Kia AWD GT Line for the driver comfort and driving part.

not sure about the rest of the car or how it will hold up. the old Ioniq holds up pretty well tho it's a sister brand
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      03-13-2023, 04:57 PM   #27
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Just my opinion, but I'd stay with the BMW. Proven. Also, your steering wheel won't fall off.
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      03-18-2023, 09:08 PM   #28
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Teslas are freakin amazing. Do it.
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      03-20-2023, 01:02 PM   #29
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As others have said, there is a LOT of variables in this question that youíll want to sort out or share with the group to help us illuminate the darkness more. Obviously, this is a BMW forum so expect a tilt toward BMW.

I am not a fan of Tesla myself, but it is mainly due to the way they treat their customers and then you have the lack of quality for the price points. Elon Musk is a hard no for me too as Iíd probably be avoiding a Tesla until heís out. But my concerns are likely not your concernsÖ

You can cross shop the iX from BMW as well as the EQ line from MB. Both of those are great luxury options (with MB tilted toward comfort which Iíd probably lean toward in an SUV since they arenít really sporty anyway). If youíre willing to go less luxury there are some really interesting options on the table from a host of manufacturers nowÖ Including Chevy *gasp*.

Tesla is looking like theyíre running out of uniqueness which is draining them of their gas (pun intended).
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      03-20-2023, 01:20 PM   #30
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OP's never come back. It's a bit of a troll post. Not sure he / she actually needs or ever needed help.
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      03-20-2023, 10:16 PM   #31
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OP's never come back. It's a bit of a troll post. Not sure he / she actually needs or ever needed help.
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      03-23-2023, 02:31 PM   #32
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Not sure I understand why people keep stating that they have to ďturnĒ to see how fast theyíre going. Your eyeballs shift slightly to the right instead of looking down at your speedo. And you can use voice commands to control a lot of things. Using Autopilot to stay in your Lane while you fidget may be inherently safer than trying to use controls and looking away fr the road on your typical non-tech.

The GV was on my list as was the Mach-E but went with Tesla in the end because I donít have an EV prejudice.
I don't look down at my speedo. It is on my headup display right in front of my eyes on the windshield. I see the speed limit, my speed, whether the ACC is set, if it is the set distance selected, and driving directions from the navigator. I also have buttons for everything I might want to do while driving like changing the radio station, volume, seat adjustments, etc. And I do use voice commands.

Some folks like driving a smart phone; I like to drive a car.
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      03-23-2023, 11:22 PM   #33
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In January my wife went from an X4 m40i to a Model 3 Performance so I can probably help a bit.

In Teslaís favor:
The electric drivetrain is actually pretty good for spirited driving. You can dance around nearly anything due to the instant power delivery. However relaxed driving can be annoying because even with the regenerative braking turned all the way down there is a constant drag that requires attention to maintain a constant speed. I donít have any complaints about the suspension.

Forward and side visibility is far superior to the X4.

Charging is quick enough that away-from-home charges can often be just 10-20 min.

If you are eligible for the tax credit this thing is less than nearly anything youíll cross shop. Itís also cheap to fuel and insure.

The infotainment UI usability is the better than any other touchscreen in the market. The features are intuitively organized and logically labeled. I canít complain about everything being control through the touchscreen since my daily uses iDrive 8.

Against Tesla:
Its new car smell is awful. They donít use real leather. Itís been over two months and itís practically as bad as day one.

In interior build materials are econobox quality.

Itís not a vehicle for tall people and itís even worse in the second row. 6í2Ē folks will be uncomfortable in the front.

The advertised range is comically optimistic. The closest weíve probably got to the advertised 315 mile range is 240. Real highway speeds kill the range.

Thereís no heads up display and, worse yet, thereís no driver screen. You have to look at the center screen to check your speed.

Thereís no CarPlay or Android Auto. However the Tesla nav is fine.

Itís not a luxury car as it has no luxury amenities. I get the temptation to compare it to luxury cars as it used to be priced like one.
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      03-23-2023, 11:52 PM   #34
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I would never buy a Tesla. It's an appliance and they all have the same boring colors. You will be like 10000 on the road.

Hard pass but do you
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      03-24-2023, 10:31 AM   #35
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You should post this on Tesla forum instead. Most of us here are anti-Tesla
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      03-24-2023, 02:02 PM   #36
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I would never buy a car where I have to look sideways to see the speed I am going.

I am assuming you are looking for a small SUV based on the X3 replacement. I would suggest looking at the Ioniq 5 or Kia EV. If you want real power (Several references in here to the Plaid) go can checkout the new Kia EV6 GT. If you want both power and luxury, and you live in a state where Genesis is selling EVs, look at the GV60 Performance (small SUV, 483 HP, Nappa seating, ultrasuede headliner, etc.) or the newly released GV70.
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