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      02-04-2017, 11:06 PM   #375
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THANKS for posting this article.... fantastic. I drove a first generation N54 in a 2007 335i for 10 years and loved it for 200K miles...

I'm considering a 2017 M240i and this article was a great read!!


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Massive downer for me is that BMW has continued with the crazy practice of mounting the VANOS units and cam timing chain at the REAR of the engine. Even the oil filter assembly is inaccessible to the rear. So a job like replacing the VANOS solenoids will require full engine removal! See here:

http://youwheel.com/home/2016/03/27/...linder-engine/
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      02-04-2017, 11:26 PM   #376
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Also might be advantage to not have the separate HPFP line ( how many did I replace? ) and also removal of PIEZO FI...

More reliable? Less chance of fuel pump failure and injector failure? Both plagued me over my 10 year run.

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Massive downer for me is that BMW has continued with the crazy practice of mounting the VANOS units and cam timing chain at the REAR of the engine. Even the oil filter assembly is inaccessible to the rear. So a job like replacing the VANOS solenoids will require full engine removal! See here:

http://youwheel.com/home/2016/03/27/...linder-engine/
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      04-21-2017, 12:36 AM   #377
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Pleased by its immense torque and also dynamics.

Looking forward for it...
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      04-29-2017, 02:03 PM   #378
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Big differences between 228i's and 230i's engines, probably comparable with the differences between the engines of the m235i and the m240i.
Any info about pistons, crank, block, rods?

I was interested in 228i stage 1 for track days but there are so many blown engines even in stock form so I'm bit sceptical about that N20. I hope B48 is a bit stronger.
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      04-29-2017, 02:35 PM   #379
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Any info about pistons, crank, block, rods?

I was interested in 228i stage 1 for track days but there are so many blown engines even in stock form so I'm bit sceptical about that N20. I hope B48 is a bit stronger.
WTF R U talking about?
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Just google ''blown n20''.
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My N20 smokes on start up like it's from the 70's and has since day one. Can't be good.
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      04-29-2017, 03:13 PM   #382
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Just google ''blown n20''.
I've searched this forum (2ADDICTS) for reports of "blown N20" egines and can't find any. If N20's blow up as often as you imply, than one would certainly expect that some portion of 228i owners on this forum would have reported that here, n'est pas?
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I'm sorry, I was probably overreacting because I'm really interested in this engine but those threads scared me a lot. Especially because I'm considering used car and I would like to drive it ocasionally on track with stage 1.

I've searched about N20 globally because this one from 228i has probably exactly the same internals as one in first F30 series.
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I'm sorry, I was probably overreacting because I'm really interested in this engine but those threads scared me a lot. Especially because I'm considering used car and I would like to drive it ocasionally on track with stage 1.

I've searched about N20 globally because this one from 228i has probably exactly the same internals as one in first F30 series.
My comments were in response to your comment which implied that the N20 engine could blow "even in stock form". I have found nothing anywhere that would validate that claim. The N20 seems rock solid in stock form.
If you're saying that tuning the N20 well past it's engineering and design parameters, say, over 330 ft/torque - well, that would be a different kettle of fish.
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He might have been referring to the issue that many N20 owners had with their turbocharger failing around 30,000 miles. Ours did. The compressor side shaft seal failed, causing oil to pool in the compressor housing. This gets invested by the engine on startup, producing copious amounts of smoke, and isn't great for your intake valves either (carbon build-up).
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Interesting that this mill offers more torque than the M2's N55 variant. Obviously, the M2 still offers certain advantages with its M4-borrowed parts (braking, steering, suspension, DCT, etc.), but it wouldn't surprise if this M240i tempts away some would-be M2 buyers. Faced with waiting times and crazy dealer markups, some prospective M2 people are going to say, 'Hey, close enough.' Some are likely doing that already with the M235i, but these impressive engine stats make the switch that much more likely.
Agree. I'm still going M2 but that's a lot of power in that little M240i. Whoa.
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Interesting that this mill offers more torque than the M2's N55 variant. Obviously, the M2 still offers certain advantages with its M4-borrowed parts (braking, steering, suspension, DCT, etc.), but it wouldn't surprise if this M240i tempts away some would-be M2 buyers. Faced with waiting times and crazy dealer markups, some prospective M2 people are going to say, 'Hey, close enough.' Some are likely doing that already with the M235i, but these impressive engine stats make the switch that much more likely.
Agree. I'm still going M2 but that's a lot of power in that little M240i. Whoa.
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      07-30-2022, 03:36 PM   #389
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Currently have the f22 230i LCI and loving it
Same here. I had to drive 450+ miles to trade in my Mini for a 2022 F22…and it's been worth every mile.

I do miss a manual gearbox at times, but my family's got a 2019 Mini with a manual so I drive that when I miss rowing my own.

Everything about this 230i -- I love it. It feels like a complete car to me. Personally don't have the need for maximum HP for my daily driver -- my commute is short. Just wanted a luxurious, fast fun car to throw around when I want to…and after having a 230i as a rental, had to have my own.
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      08-30-2022, 07:09 PM   #391
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Same here. I had to drive 450+ miles to trade in my Mini for a 2022 F22…and it's been worth every mile.

I do miss a manual gearbox at times, but my family's got a 2019 Mini with a manual so I drive that when I miss rowing my own.

Everything about this 230i -- I love it. It feels like a complete car to me. Personally don't have the need for maximum HP for my daily driver -- my commute is short. Just wanted a luxurious, fast fun car to throw around when I want to…and after having a 230i as a rental, had to have my own.
Couldn't agree more. The balance of the 230i and the 250hp let me toss it around and mash the pedal letting me hit the limit without outrageous speeds. It's such a great daily commuter. Drove the M240i which is also plenty fun but would reach illegal speeds way too fast. Got mine CPO and have put about 20k miles myself on it.

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