03-31-2021, 08:34 AM | #1 |
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Hello, so I just finally pulled the trigger on a '18 m240i vert and had it for 2 days.
Little quirk I found and wondering if this is something I might have to deal with going forward. 1. The engine start stop thing - I felt like it would be bad for the car long term, is that the case? - I try turning it off but it keep coming back the next time I drive, is there a way to keep it either on or off on my choice? 2. AC Sync, I couldnt for the life of me find a sync button, quick search on forum looks like this might be the case for 2 and 3. Is this true and is there no way around it? (I start my day early morning when its cold and end my day in evening sun when its hot, I flip the climate between two extremes on daily basis >.<) All in all, I LOVE my new baby! |
03-31-2021, 09:07 AM | #2 |
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Yep, those are common annoyances in this car.
The auto start/stop can be coded out using BimmerCode so you don't have to disable it every time. There is no AC sync button anymore, they are both controlled independently. I don't even use the temp control, just the hot/cold horizontal dial located near the vents.
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03-31-2021, 09:28 AM | #3 |
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Hi, select a temp you want the interior to remain and hit the AUTO button. That temp should be maintained. If it is colder the heat comes on. Hotter the air comes on.
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[QUOTE=Ajowhan;27414640]Hello, so I just finally pulled the trigger on a '18 m240i vert and had it for 2 days.
Little quirk I found and wondering if this is something I might have to deal with going forward. 1. The engine start stop thing - I felt like it would be bad for the car long term, is that the case? - I try turning it off but it keep coming back the next time I drive, is there a way to keep it either on or off on my choice? /QUOTE] Is this a change from 2017 to 2018? On my 2017, I can deactivate mine with the "on/off" ring around my start button on the dash. Once I set it to off, it remains off each time I start the car unless I manually turn the feature on. Did BMW code it so on each start up it defaults to "ON"? |
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03-31-2021, 09:38 AM | #5 | |
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What if I set the car to 60F but had the dial to the cold side? |
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03-31-2021, 09:43 AM | #6 |
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That adjustable wheel either warms or cools the vents that heat or cool the main part of the passenger body, like the torso area.
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03-31-2021, 10:04 AM | #7 | |
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- The overall ambient temperature of the car will be maintained at the set level of the digital control no matter where the hot/cold dial is set - However, the hot/cold dial will change the temperature of the air coming out of the main vents on the dash; while the overall temperature is regulated via the other vents in the car - In 90% of situations you should just leave the hot/cold dial in the middle position. I find that this will pretty much keep the main vents tracking to what you have the digital control set to. - There are several occasions I've found where it is very convenient to adjust the hot/cold dial: 1) If for some reason your hands or face get cold, adjust it dial to hot and use the vents to warm your hands 2) On longer road trips, sometimes you can begin to feel a bit stuffy, even though the car is at a good temperature overall. In this scenario, you can move the slider to the cold side for a nice refreshing breeze to make you feel less stuffy and more alert (all while keeping the car from getting too cold). I read somewhere that the Germans are really into the cool breeze to the face while driving thing. 3) Generally if you prefer a slightly different temp to your face than feet, the dial is helpful. In your scenario of temp set to 60 and dial to cold, it might make the air from the main vents slightly colder, but I doubt you would notice a difference at that point. As for the auto start/stop. Both my 2014 3 and 2021 2 will stay set to what you left it on -- perhaps they changed it for a few years in the middle. But, keep in mind that anytime you go to eco mode, it will automatically put you in auto start/stop, even if you return to comfort. |
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03-31-2021, 11:32 AM | #11 |
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Auto start/stop is one of the dumbest and most annoying features ever put in an automobile, especially a performance-oriented one. Like others have said, mine is defeated with the ring around my start button. But we have a 2016 model.
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There is a confusion on my part. I gotta check again later today to see if my start and stop turn on when car start or when I go to eco mode. 70% of the time I drive on eco mode. Is it possible to set the car to start on eco mode vs comfort? |
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03-31-2021, 11:34 AM | #13 |
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It might be a little confusing because the button light on means the start/stop is deactivated; if the light is off, it means the start/stop is activated. Sometimes on my 17' it takes one iteration of stopping before it is completely deactivated. On my Moms 18' you can either deactivate it via the button or through the iDrive system.
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03-31-2021, 11:41 AM | #14 |
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The car will always start in Comfort mode. There may be a way to code this out, but that is above my pay grade.
BTW, the little hot/cold dial is now gone from all BMWs. Another reason to keep my 2 forever. |
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As for eco mode, to each their own, but I highly recommend avoiding it and driving in comfort or sport. I used to use it in my 3 for a bit, but then I realized that eco takes away so much character of the car and at most, you will save a dollar or two at each fill-up. It also has a severe negative effect on the capability of the climate control system, ie it will not cool as well in eco. If efficiency was your only interest I suspect you would have saved some money and bought a civic instead. |
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This is the problem with stop/start. That will reset with each ignition cycle if you don't maintain at least Comfort or Sport (+). My question is why get a BMW if you want ECO mode that often?
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@Ajowhan On my 2016 M235i, the start/stop doesn't engage stop if you brake very gently when coming to a halt. This tends to get you into the good driving habit of doing 95% of your braking to a point a few yards short of where you actually want to come to rest, and then very gently braking the last few yards, leaving the engine running.
If you want to re-start the engine when stationary, lift your foot off the brake very slightly (not enough to disengage the brakes) and the engine will restart and not stop as you press down again. In Comfort Mode, this is useful at something like a junction where you've come to halt, but want the engine running in order to pull out promptly.
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Congrats on the new toy. The programmable buttons are a real neat way to kill hours learning new ways to amuse yourself; as well as trying to make sense of the German-to-not-quite-English translation of the manual. It also took me 2 yrs to finally get how the turn signals work, and the difference between Traction mode and DTM-off.
Activating Eco mode puts it back into stop-start, even if you had it deactivated beforehand; Eco won't limit how fast you go, but it does adjust the engine to use less fuel (on a long trip when in cruise control I got bored and tried it, and it returned about 5% better mileage). I can also verify it will continue to urgently tell you to "reduce speed" on up into the triple digits (what else is there to do in Kansas when you are road-stupid?). It also uses this weird freewheel feature that seems to eliminate engine braking, so when you lift you don't slow much at all. Very unsettling in traffic, and so I don't use it much ever (first time it cut the engine at a toll booth I just about crapped myself thinking I'd just lost the engine 600 miles from home). The side-to-side cabin temps are kind of a placebo; somebody trialed it in a youtube vid and regardless of how you set them, cabin temp is pretty consistent side to side. You could put a black rubber band around both knobs to run in tandem, but it seems tacky. And FWIW, the temp wheel is still alive and well on my '21; surprised they would take it out for '22 after something like 30 years of it being a standard, but after seeing the schnoz on the new models, anything is possible. |
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