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      05-03-2021, 02:15 PM   #1
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2022 G42 M240i allegedly only availble

According to this AutoEvolution Article

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The RWD entry-level versions will get 1.5-liter three-cylinders, followed by 2.0-liter four-cylinders and ending with the mighty 3.0-liter inline-sixes that will only be available with xDrive all-wheel-drive in the M240i.
So if that's the case, no manual for the M240i. Which makes me cry.

Sorry if this has been noted before.
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      05-03-2021, 02:26 PM   #2
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So if that's the case, no manual for the M240i. Which makes me cry.

Sorry if this has been noted before.
Maybe I'm reading wrong, but RWD entry version only available in AWD ? oh ok, only 240 6 cyl AWD...that blows
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      05-03-2021, 02:27 PM   #3
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According to this AutoEvolution Article



So if that's the case, no manual for the M240i. Which makes me cry.

Sorry if this has been noted before.
Wow if that is true, no RWD inline 6 anymore??
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      05-03-2021, 02:31 PM   #4
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There is also no driveline that is used in the CLAR platform models that use the B58, that has a manual transmission. It is unlikely that BMW would just produce it for a RWD 2-series with low manual to automatic transmission uptake, especially as the M240i won't carry a full ///M car premium that allows it to distribute the manual transmission costs across M2, 3 & 4 models that have a relatively high proportion of manual transmission sales.
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      05-03-2021, 02:39 PM   #5
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It's possible. We'll see. But I wouldn't necessarily take Autoevolution's story as gospel. Their story might just pertain some regional offerings, like the 1.5-liter three-cylinders which I can pretty much guarantee you aren't coming stateside. I'm skeptical of the assertion of x-drive only. That may just be conjecture based on what was done with the m440i.
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That article makes zero sense. No chance in hell that they make the 240 Xdrive only. Zero
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      05-03-2021, 04:55 PM   #7
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That article makes zero sense. No chance in hell that they make the 240 Xdrive only. Zero
I agree. That has to be a mistype or is referring to a euro-only spec M240i.
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      05-03-2021, 06:23 PM   #8
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I'm skeptical of the assertion of x-drive only.
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That article makes zero sense. No chance in hell that they make the 240 Xdrive only. Zero
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I agree. That has to be a mistype or is referring to a euro-only spec M240i.
I've been led to believe that US manual uptake is less than 10% and steadily diminishing. I've always wondered how far RWD is behind that curve.

If you look at what dealers stock, you've generally got to go fairly far south before you're solidly in RWD territory. Even then, there are exceptions – one Houston dealer's inventory I reviewed was very heavily AWD.

I look forward to seeing how this plays out, but I don't think BMW is building non-M cars for driving enthusiasts like us forum members any more.

BMW's challenge is to make the transition to EVs and do it successfully. The company was the most world's most profitable car company in 2016-2017 or 2017-2018 (I can't recall exactly), so it's demonstrated the ability to create significant profits in a very challenging business environment. BMW is going to need all the profits it can lay its hands on to come out on the other side of the powertrain transition with anything like its current strength. That's bound to dictate what they offer us here in North America.

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      05-03-2021, 08:58 PM   #9
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When I visited my dealer in March, looking for an allocation for a '21 M240i (no dice), I was told by the sales manager that the '22 model would be available in RWD, and with a manual transmission. Given my past history with my dealer, I am pretty confident that they are not just blowing smoke. It's a crazy world right now, but I am hopeful that the above will hold true.
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Looking at dealer 2-series coupe used car inventory in the US, Canada and UK, the pattern is that there are very few manual cars available with the I-6 engines (more common with I-4 engines, especially in the UK where it approaches 50%).

US used 2-series coupes:
139 total
17 I-6 engine with AWD (12%)
10 I-6 engine with RWD and auto (7%)
1 I-6 engine with RWD and manual (1%)

Canada used 2-series coupes:
61 total
6 I-6 engine with AWD (10%)
1 I-6 engine with RWD and manual (2%)

UK used 2-series coupes (no AWD F22 ever sold there)
413 total
73 I-6 engine with RWD and auto (18%)
5 I-6 engine with RWD and manual (1%)

The chances of a manual M240i in a market where the G42 may sell less than the F22 due to a move to SUVs reducing car sales even more looks dismal, even if the proportion of 2-series sales is higher than the available 1% used inventory due to them selling quicker or being held on to by enthusiasts, but still a very low proportion as enthusiasts are already a small minority of buyers. Worldwide you are looking at just a few thousand cars a year which isn’t worth the variant certification in the markets where they would be sold.

I can also see a good argument that a consolidated and smaller market for a speciality model would also just be for the most popular variant. With the M240i already being a niche product, just the AWD auto version would make sense from a marketing and cost savings perspective.
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That article makes zero sense. No chance in hell that they make the 240 Xdrive only. Zero
Why not? The 440 only comes with xDrive, at least in the U.S. market.
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My guess is that the M2 will be available with RWD and manual in the U.S. market.
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Why not? The 440 only comes with xDrive, at least in the U.S. market.
That's a fair point. And I, for one, don't write off the x-drive-only story as impossible. I will note, however, that the 435/440 and 235/240 have been aimed at slightly different markets. The 2er has been marketed as a purist/enthusiast car in a way that the 4-series coupe hasn't. For example, moonroof delete has been offered on the 235/240 but not the 435/440. We'll see.
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Why not? The 440 only comes with xDrive, at least in the U.S. market.
The part I can't figure out is why does BMW offer the M340i in both RWD and AWD, but yet the M440 only comes in AWD?
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The part I can't figure out is why does BMW offer the M340i in both RWD and AWD, but yet the M440 only comes in AWD?
It looks like at the moment the USA is unique amongst the major BMW markets. The UK Germany and Canada only get the M340i xdrive, no RWD version. This may be due to the factory in Mexico only building the G80 RWD M340i for the US market, as opposed to the other worldwide production locations.

Overall many consumers will be cross shopping the S4 and C43 AWD, perhaps why only the xDrive version is popular amongst most consumers. Also with the power outputs on wet roads more often found in the UK and Germany and winter conditions in Canada, powerful RWD cars are less desirable than AWD ones, compared with the dryer and warmer southern US states that are more RWD friendly.
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It looks like at the moment the USA is unique amongst the major BMW markets. The UK Germany and Canada only get the M340i xdrive, no RWD version. This may be due to the factory in Mexico only building the G80 RWD M340i for the US market, as opposed to the other worldwide production locations.
Ah, interesting. I think this explains a lot... and also bodes well for a Mexico-assembled RWD m240i variant.
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It's possible. We'll see. But I wouldn't necessarily take Autoevolution's story as gospel. Their story might just pertain some regional offerings, like the 1.5-liter three-cylinders which I can pretty much guarantee you aren't coming stateside. I'm skeptical of the assertion of x-drive only. That may just be conjecture based on what was done with the m440i.
Any news about 1.5 or 1.6 lt versions ? G42 is still unavailable in the country I live unfortunatelty. I want to have a g42 so much but I do not want under 170hp which is the minimum HP that will satisfy me.
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According to this AutoEvolution Article

The RWD entry-level versions will get 1.5-liter three-cylinders, followed by 2.0-liter four-cylinders and ending with the mighty 3.0-liter inline-sixes that will only be available with xDrive all-wheel-drive in the M240i.

So if that's the case, no manual for the M240i. Which makes me cry.

Sorry if this has been noted before.
Who says that there will be 1,5 lt version? If so that is the only option for me and I look forward to it. Any news about it?
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