Non Run-flat tires for M240i xdrive

vwcrusher · 08-06-2018, 05:55 PM

Did a little searching but didn't find anything recent. So the question is if one wanted to replace the horrid run-flat tires on a daily driver are there any preferred makes for all season? How much of a difference in ride should be expected?

Please keep in mind that I do not want two sets of tires/wheels; I don't track the car and live in an area where I could encounter some snow (luckily my wife has an SUV so that if the snow is deep, the BMW stays in the garage).

thanks in advance. BTW, I did check Tire Rack.....

emtrey · 08-06-2018, 06:16 PM

Michelin Pilot Sport AS/3 + . No further deliberation needed.

Noticeable difference in ride and handling ( imho). Have not had snow since putting them on so can,t answer that part of the question. However, they stick like glue in the wet.

BEM-S4 · 08-06-2018, 06:29 PM

AS3+. Dws06 ok too if more concerned w winter.

hwntime · 08-06-2018, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by emtrey

Michelin Pilot Sport AS/3 . No further deliberation needed.

Noticeable difference in ride and handling ( imho). Have not had snow since putting them on so can,t answer that part of the question. However, they stick like glue in the wet.

Yup, I just switched out to these three weeks ago after getting bulges on two separate runflats. It got too expensive for me to keep replacing them so I went with the Pilot Sport AS 3+ and couldn't be happier. Those RFT's are crap!

Sportstick · 08-06-2018, 07:02 PM

Pilot Sport AS3+ (again).

BEM-S4 · 08-06-2018, 07:10 PM

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Pilot Sport AS3+ (again).

I'll save you some extra typing - his next suggestion (which I agree with) is going down to a 17" wheel if the roads by you are crap. Maybe... I don't know, a BBS SR???

Sportstick · 08-06-2018, 07:30 PM

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I'll save you some extra typing - his next suggestion (which I agree with) is going down to a 17" wheel if the roads by you are crap. Maybe... I don't know, a BBS SR???

stevenvillatoro · 08-06-2018, 07:34 PM

Michelin PS AS 3+

Denk · 08-06-2018, 10:05 PM

Yeah, the Mich AS3+. I've had the DSW06 which isn't bad but I find the AS3+ to have a better response and slightly less tread growl.

vwcrusher · 08-07-2018, 05:41 AM

Wow, I guess it's kind of unanimous.....thanks guys!

What is interesting is Tirerack recommended the following:
Vredestein Qualtrac 5.....huh?

vwcrusher · 08-09-2018, 10:14 AM

One additional question: what should I expect regarding ride quality after switching from stock run flats to the Pilots? Especially the harshness, like the tires are solid rubber....

tnx

Sportstick · 08-09-2018, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by vwcrusher

One additional question: what should I expect regarding ride quality after switching from stock run flats to the Pilots? Especially the harshness, like the tires are solid rubber....

tnx

You should expect an improvement in ride quality. I do not understand your second sentence.

vwcrusher · 08-09-2018, 12:26 PM

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You should expect an improvement in ride quality. I do not understand your second sentence.

Thanks for the reply. The second sentence refers to the current ride utilizing OE run flat tires.

hwntime · 08-09-2018, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by vwcrusher

One additional question: what should I expect regarding ride quality after switching from stock run flats to the Pilots? Especially the harshness, like the tires are solid rubber....

tnx

It's a slightly more compliant ride over the RFT's. Nothing huge as you may think after reading reviews online. Responsiveness is slightly less than the RFT's and I'm assuming it's because they are softer tires. Road noise is just about equivalent and this was the only disappointment for me. I have 1000 miles on mine so it may get better over time.

Sportstick · 08-09-2018, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by vwcrusher

Thanks for the reply. The second sentence refers to the current ride utilizing OE run flat tires.

Got it, thanks. The OEM RFT aren’t solid rubber and still rely on inflation with air. There is internal structure to provide the run flat capability. The aftermarket Michelins will have a superior ride in any case.

MarcoZandrini · 08-10-2018, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by vwcrusher

Wow, I guess it's kind of unanimous.....thanks guys!

What is interesting is Tirerack recommended the following:
Vredestein Qualtrac 5.....huh?

I put a set of these tires on my wife's Honda. They are a great improvement over the BFG all seasons that were on the car. However, I'd stick with the Michelins.

vwcrusher · 08-14-2018, 07:07 AM

A follow up question to the group: As I really cannot stand the OE tires, will it affect the warranty if I change them out to non run flats? Never know....thanks

emtrey · 08-14-2018, 07:41 AM

does not affect warranty. If its a lease car, they may want run flats on lease turn in or charge you for new tires.

vwcrusher · 08-14-2018, 09:39 AM

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does not affect warranty. If its a lease car, they may want run flats on lease turn in or charge you for new tires.

Thanks....and not a lease.

MarcoZandrini · 08-16-2018, 12:36 PM

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Thanks....and not a lease.

Then Michelin AS3+ FTW!!

bmwx5er · 08-26-2018, 03:43 PM

I have Pirelli pzero AS+ and they’re fantastic.

Miata13 · 08-27-2018, 06:56 PM

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Thanks....and not a lease.

If a lease car came with RFT, it must be returned with RFT or you'll be charged for a new set. My solution...remove the runflats and buy your preferred tires for use during your lease....put the RFT back on prior to lease turn-in.

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vwcrusher Enlisted Member 13 Rep 39 Posts Drives: 2017 M240i xdrive Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: MA iTrader: (0)	Non Run-flat tires for M240i xdrive Did a little searching but didn't find anything recent. So the question is if one wanted to replace the horrid run-flat tires on a daily driver are there any preferred makes for all season? How much of a difference in ride should be expected? Please keep in mind that I do not want two sets of tires/wheels; I don't track the car and live in an area where I could encounter some snow (luckily my wife has an SUV so that if the snow is deep, the BMW stays in the garage). thanks in advance. BTW, I did check Tire Rack.....
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emtrey Captain 92 Rep 857 Posts Drives: 16 M235IX, 06 Carrera S, 335i Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Midwest iTrader: (0)	Michelin Pilot Sport AS/3 + . No further deliberation needed. Noticeable difference in ride and handling ( imho). Have not had snow since putting them on so can,t answer that part of the question. However, they stick like glue in the wet. Last edited by emtrey; 08-06-2018 at 06:48 PM..
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BEM-S4 Major General 4516 Rep 8,942 Posts Drives: Dinan M235, Dinan Sport Wagon Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Philadelphia iTrader: (5)	AS3+. Dws06 ok too if more concerned w winter. __________________ 2022 Macan S 2016 F31 328i xDrive Sport Wagon 2006 E46 330ci ZHP Convertible
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Denk Brigadier General 1006 Rep 3,341 Posts Drives: 2021 X5M Join Date: May 2011 Location: PNW iTrader: (2)	Yeah, the Mich AS3+. I've had the DSW06 which isn't bad but I find the AS3+ to have a better response and slightly less tread growl.
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vwcrusher Enlisted Member 13 Rep 39 Posts Drives: 2017 M240i xdrive Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: MA iTrader: (0)	Wow, I guess it's kind of unanimous.....thanks guys! What is interesting is Tirerack recommended the following: Vredestein Qualtrac 5.....huh?
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vwcrusher Enlisted Member 13 Rep 39 Posts Drives: 2017 M240i xdrive Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: MA iTrader: (0)	One additional question: what should I expect regarding ride quality after switching from stock run flats to the Pilots? Especially the harshness, like the tires are solid rubber.... tnx Last edited by vwcrusher; 08-09-2018 at 10:20 AM..
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vwcrusher Enlisted Member 13 Rep 39 Posts Drives: 2017 M240i xdrive Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: MA iTrader: (0)	A follow up question to the group: As I really cannot stand the OE tires, will it affect the warranty if I change them out to non run flats? Never know....thanks
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