[charismahn]

Hey guys, I'm thinking of changing my oil with Motul 5w40, is that safe and good for our cars? I'm at 24k miles, please help.. I'm new to this whole forum thing but it looks like there is a lot of good help here, thanks in advance!

[aerodavew]

There's a guy on youtube called Project farm.
He did a really good test on 16 different oils.
Motul didn't make out of the first round.
Check it out!

[charismahn]

Thanks aerodavew!

[charismahn]

Anybody use liqui moly? I want to use a higher grade oil any suggestions?

[amw896]

Originally Posted by aerodavew

There's a guy on youtube called Project farm.
He did a really good test on 16 different oils.
Motul didn't make out of the first round.
Check it out!

let's be serious, his tests do nothing but test for flow rate which will basically prove the lightest oil will win. I only trust proven winners that are tested in high demand environments like liqui moly and motul and some others.

[amw896]

Originally Posted by charismahn

Anybody use liqui moly? I want to use a higher grade oil any suggestions?

I use the 5w40 in my 235i, FBO with stage 2 bm3. Liqui moly are generally thicker in comparison to other comparable oils. It holds up really well in the high oil temp running n55. I was running the bmw (pennzoil) 0w30 before which I thought ran well but looked like water after an 8k drain.

Keep in mind that automakers keep recommending thinner oils strictly for fuel consumption purposes.

[Alpine2]

Any BMW LL-01 oil should meet or exceed OE requirements.

Liquimoly is fine,
Shell Pennzoil Premium Euro, Castrol etc.

Just look on the back of the packaging- if it meets LL-01 it's good to go.

[Pray for Mojo]

I run 5w-30 Liqui Moly, I don't like the thicker oils due to rod bearing issues.

[Eclipseblur954]

Pennzoil Platinum Ultra 5w-40 is praised over at bobistheoilguy, which is probably the largest oil forum. They have a crazy amount of information there.
But just be sure to get the non L version, the regular Euro version meets the LL-01 cert, the L version is LL-04, which is for european markets.

[Dylan86]

I run both LiquiMoly 5w30 and Motul 5w30, both far exceed OE specifications. I personally can get a hold of Liqui much easier via Napa, and with wholesale pricing it's my best overall "value" for a DIY oil change. I'm under $120CDN and happy about it, with OE filter too

[aerodavew]

Originally Posted by amw896

let's be serious, his tests do nothing but test for flow rate which will basically prove the lightest oil will win. I only trust proven winners that are tested in high demand environments like liqui moly and motul and some others.

Not true at all.
Watch the videos!

[aerodavew]

Originally Posted by Alpine2

Any BMW LL-01 oil should meet or exceed OE requirements.

Liquimoly is fine,
Shell Pennzoil Premium Euro, Castrol etc.

Just look on the back of the packaging- if it meets LL-01 it's good to go.

BMW now recommends Pennzoil...

[aerodavew]

Originally Posted by amw896

let's be serious, his tests do nothing but test for flow rate which will basically prove the lightest oil will win. I only trust proven winners that are tested in high demand environments like liqui moly and motul and some others.

Not true!
Watch his videos!

[Alpine2]

Originally Posted by aerodavew

BMW now recommends Pennzoil...

bmw can recommend whatever they want.

The fact is castrol still has BMW LL-01 certification, and therefore is good to go.
BMW doesnt "recommend" Liquimoly, etc. yet were still here running it..so im not sure the point you're making here.

[amw896]

Originally Posted by Alpine2

bmw can recommend whatever they want.

The fact is castrol still has BMW LL-01 certification, and therefore is good to go.
BMW doesnt "recommend" Liquimoly, etc. yet were still here running it..so im not sure the point you're making here.

liqui moly is LL01 approved.

the pennzoil platinum 5w40 is also a great product. I'm just not a fan of the 5w30.

[Alpine2]

Originally Posted by amw896

liqui moly is LL01 approved.

the pennzoil platinum 5w40 is also a great product. I'm just not a fan of the 5w30.

Right.

I never said liqui-moly isnt LL01?
Im just saying: Regardless of what oil manufacturer BMW is in bed with this month (Pennzoil, Castrol, etc)..any BMW LL-01 oil is good to go with american fuel

Whether that be Pennzoil, Castrol, Liquimoly, or even Amazon Basics.

[Pray for Mojo]

US and EU have same 10ppm sulphur in fuel so you can run LL-04. Canada has 14ppm changing to 10ppm in 2020, so it's likely fine to run LL-04 as well.

[arhoads335i]

Any of the premium brands will work amazing at 5K intervals. The videos on project farm are cool but every oil is different he doesn't go in depth enough. The cold flow tests he does do not matter as oils at the same weight are not exact, you need to study the properties more. JUst change it at good intervals and it really doesn't matter. I always use Molly, motule is also a great brand