Comparing Wagner and Evolution Racewerks Downpipes w/Cat

Hekler · 06-06-2019, 11:27 PM

Which DP did you get and why?

ER has a 200 cell cat and Wagner has a 300 cell Cat.

Wagner has no error codes. What about ER?

What do you do if you do get error?

Thank you

Mehim · 06-06-2019, 11:47 PM

Pretty sure wagner has 200 cel also. Thats the one i want.

Hekler · 06-07-2019, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mehim

Pretty sure wagner has 200 cel also. Thats the one i want.

I didn't see it on their website, but I thought I had seen a 200 cell cat by wagner somewhere? Build quality looks amazing....

mike@x-ph.com · 06-11-2019, 09:24 PM

Wagner offers 2 different options: 200 CEL and 300 HJS cats

Wagner cats are superior to ER (even the 200 CEL)
That being said both are quality options

itsbeenfunmike · 06-12-2019, 12:09 AM

If you get a cell error flash it with bootmod3. Problem solved and you get more power. WIN WIN.

Solid67 · 06-12-2019, 09:09 AM

How do both downpipes compare to the CG PRECISION DS-1?

Hekler · 06-13-2019, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Wagner offers 2 different options: 200 CEL and 300 HJS cats

Wagner cats are superior to ER (even the 200 CEL)
That being said both are quality options

Thank you. I need to check them out!!

mike@x-ph.com · 06-17-2019, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Hekler

Thank you. I need to check them out!!

Let me know if you need any help.

kriszty · 06-17-2019, 12:06 PM

i have the wagner 200 cell downpipe, quality is perfect, sound is also much better then stock, the wagner also throws en error , so you need a tune or jb4 to clear it. btw absolute no smell from the wagner 200 cell

Mehim · 06-18-2019, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kriszty

i have the wagner 200 cell downpipe, quality is perfect, sound is also much better then stock, the wagner also throws en error , so you need a tune or jb4 to clear it. btw absolute no smell from the wagner 200 cell

Darn. Was hoping it was cel free

greg21040 · 06-18-2019, 07:35 PM

Just get an O2 spacer for a few bucks and you won't get a CEL.

Solid67 · 06-18-2019, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kriszty

i have the wagner 200 cell downpipe, quality is perfect, sound is also much better then stock, the wagner also throws en error , so you need a tune or jb4 to clear it. btw absolute no smell from the wagner 200 cell

Dude thats pretty lame considering how expensive the wagner catted downpipe is. I would think if you are paying that much money for a catted downpipe the least it could do is guarantee no CEL.

Hekler · 06-27-2019, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by greg21040

Just get an O2 spacer for a few bucks and you won't get a CEL.

I did as Greg says and so far no issues....

mike@x-ph.com · 06-28-2019, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Solid67

How do both downpipes compare to the CG PRECISION DS-1?

CG is a great option, you can use it without a tune and you wont get a CEL

Hekler · 07-03-2019, 10:40 PM

I ended up getting the ER downpipe coated in the black thermal coating. I got a good deal from HP Autosport and he installed the downpipe.

The sound is a little louder at startup and WOT. I personally wouldn't want it any louder but Love the sound now. Before with all stock exhaust it was just too quiet! Stock exhaust BTW

http://www.evolutionracewerks.com/node/326

HP Autosport · 07-04-2019, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hekler

I ended up getting the ER downpipe coated in the black thermal coating. I got a good deal from HP Autosport and he installed the downpipe.

The sound is a little louder at startup and WOT. I personally wouldn't want it any louder but Love the sound now. Before with all stock exhaust it was just too quiet! Stock exhaust BTW

http://www.evolutionracewerks.com/node/326

Glad you are enjoying the DP!

Stevetran92 · 07-06-2019, 11:58 AM

I just installed my ER catless downpipe for about a week now, Not to sure about keeping it installed. I like the usual pops and bangs but maybe its just not for me.

Anyone interested in buying a used dp? shoot me a msg.

Solid67 · 07-07-2019, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Stevetran92

I just installed my ER catless downpipe for about a week now, Not to sure about keeping it installed. I like the usual pops and bangs but maybe its just not for me.

Anyone interested in buying a used dp? shoot me a msg.

I sent you a DM about the downpipe.

Solid67 · 07-10-2019, 04:07 PM

So I pulled the trigger on a catless ER downpipe with ceramic coating (should be here in 2 weeks). Will I need a new downpipe gasket or will the current one work?

mike@x-ph.com · 07-10-2019, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid67

So I pulled the trigger on a catless ER downpipe with ceramic coating (should be here in 2 weeks). Will I need a new downpipe gasket or will the current one work?

You can re-use the stock ones, congrats

Dreculah · 07-16-2019, 02:34 PM

Is there a DIY on changing out the downpipe?

Solid67 · 07-16-2019, 03:47 PM

Fellas, what o2 spacer do you all recommend?

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Hekler Private First Class 29 Rep 167 Posts Drives: 2019 M240i Black on Black Join Date: May 2019 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	I ended up getting the ER downpipe coated in the black thermal coating. I got a good deal from HP Autosport and he installed the downpipe. The sound is a little louder at startup and WOT. I personally wouldn't want it any louder but Love the sound now. Before with all stock exhaust it was just too quiet! Stock exhaust BTW http://www.evolutionracewerks.com/node/326
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07-06-2019, 11:58 AM	#17
Stevetran92 Registered 0 Rep 2 Posts Drives: 2017 M240i Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	I just installed my ER catless downpipe for about a week now, Not to sure about keeping it installed. I like the usual pops and bangs but maybe its just not for me. Anyone interested in buying a used dp? shoot me a msg.
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Solid67 Lieutenant 187 Rep 458 Posts Drives: 2019 M240i xDrive MP Edition Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Fairfax, VA iTrader: (0)	So I pulled the trigger on a catless ER downpipe with ceramic coating (should be here in 2 weeks). Will I need a new downpipe gasket or will the current one work?
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Solid67 Lieutenant 187 Rep 458 Posts Drives: 2019 M240i xDrive MP Edition Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Fairfax, VA iTrader: (0)	Fellas, what o2 spacer do you all recommend?
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