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mmWave is quite useful in large public venues like stadiums if the backhaul can keep up. My office building has mmWave on the roof and the speeds are absurd. |
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MM wave is supremely fast but you have to be very close to a tower and even then it's insanely spotty... again, what is the consumer use case here? Like you mentioned, the only realistic one is in an arena that hasmassive load usage from a lot of people... even in that scenario I have seen it work SO far very poorly and spotty. Case in point, a few airports I have been at, downtown centers and bballa arenas.
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Right but that's the exact issue... the marketing on it was incorrect which is the overall point of the posts before this one. At&t went as far as labeling their on the phone network icon as 5G even tho it had nothing to do with 5G.
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I was called a nut by the same fella that called myself, Nicky, mk6 and many others crazy and conspiracy theorists in the not so distant past. I hope I can speak for them with a simple "told you so". It won't do a lick of good but whatever. Can't fix arrogance.
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Suddenly deciding to buy an EV without doing the homework reminds me of the saying 'Fools rush in...'
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I think this and the other common sense arguments surrounding increased capacity and grid upgrades that constantly get posted here are what the underlying theme among a great many posters on this thread is. |
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03-18-2023, 01:19 PM | #1659 | |
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It really depends on your location, here in New England electricity just went up to $0.45/Kwh (delivery+generation). So let's do a quick math check: Bolt EUV battery is +/-65kWh / 0.95 (charging efficiency) * $0.45 = $30.79 for 247 miles (EPA perfect case full charge). That's equivalent of 23.6 MPG (currently local 87 is $2.94/Gal, so $30.79/2.94$/Gal=10.47 Gal thus, 247 miles/10.47 Gal = 23.6 MPG).
This is not even considering much worst range in cold weather and battery degradation. So in my case, it's much more logical to get say 2023 Nissan Versa at $15,830 MSRP which gets 32 city / 40 highway for a commuter car. Plus there is always a chance you can burn down your garage charging Chevy bolt... Quote:
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$0.45kwh!!!!!!????? Even super chargers around here charge like $0.25kwh and feel like a scam to me. FPL has been raising its rates recently and pissing everyone off... still I think the highest I pay is $0.09kwh. So at most it costs me $6.75 to fully charge my model 3 long range. However outside of some rare use cases I can't see how buying most any EV would save you more money than just buying a used economy car. |
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Yep, $0.45kWh is the Eversource rate (generation+delivery). Generation can be switched to a cheaper supplier, but I still pay about $150 for electricity delivery charges regardless of generation rates. This really sounds like a scam but it's a reality, unfortunately. Plus we don't have time-of-use rates, so we pay a fixed rate regardless time of the day.
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That would be equivalent to about 45-50 bucks for a gas car. Love it!
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Driving the way i do To get 600 miles I'll pay £117 for ev and £139 for my diesel x5. Tbh its not worth the hassle and the ev needs charged thrice. |
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Don't forget to include battery degradation about total of 10%-12% at 100K.
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HOWEVER assuming all else was equal and I liked both cars equally... I would totally pay the extra $958 to never have to go to a gas station or deal with oil changes, brakes etc. |
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My biggest problem with EVs is the battery/drivetrain replacement outside of the warranty period. There are just not enough specialists (outside of official service) in most areas to correctly perform diagnostics and replacement, plus some parts are super expensive. Judging by Telsa forums older Model S with over 100K are definitely a ticking bomb, some battery pack versions are better than the over ones, but $20K battery replacement is not something very uncommon. So I'm OK with oil changes and brakes at least for now...
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