[Joe240]

Originally Posted by walnuttea

Just to make sure I've beat this subject to death, the 18x8.5'' would fit the tires coming off of the standard, staggered 436M 18'' configuration correct? In other words, I can just do a straight swap of my MPSS to these? Or does this only work if I'm switching from a square setup? Want to avoid buying new tires for now.

Yes, the 8.5" will fit both the 225 and 245 factory MPSS tires off the square or staggered 436m factory wheels. The 9.5" will not fit the 225 and it's highly recommended not putting the 245s on them because they'd stretch to much and won't seal properly.

[Benandluna]

Originally Posted by Joe240

Yes, the 8.5" will fit both the 225 and 245 factory MPSS tires off the square or staggered 436m factory wheels. The 9.5" will not fit the 225 and it's highly recommended not putting the 245s on them because they'd stretch to much and won't seal properly.

Interesting I heard otherwise regarding the 245s on the 9.5". the Staggered factor wheels are what size, cant seem to find it online.

[Joe240]

Originally Posted by Benandluna

Interesting I heard otherwise regarding the 245s on the 9.5". the Staggered factor wheels are what size, cant seem to find it online.

Factory staggered are 225/40/18 245/35/18 on 7.5et45 front 8et52 back

[Joe240]

Oh and MPSS says it can go up to 9.5" I was mistaken: https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...omCompare1=yes

I still wouldn't do it personally. Pretty large stretch imo.

[Benandluna]

Originally Posted by Joe240

Oh and MPSS says it can go up to 9.5" I was mistaken: https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...omCompare1=yes

I still wouldn't do it personally. Pretty large stretch imo.

Thanks for the info. I know a few with a decent amount of miles. I just wanna get the most of my stock tires before new tires. Maybe I'll just replace the tires after 5k. I do t track the car so I assume I'll be ok

[Joe240]

Originally Posted by Benandluna

Thanks for the info. I know a few with a decent amount of miles. I just wanna get the most of my stock tires before new tires. Maybe I'll just replace the tires after 5k. I do t track the car so I assume I'll be ok

If you aren't tracking or doing hard cornering, you should be fine.

[walnuttea]

Originally Posted by Joe240

Yes, the 8.5" will fit both the 225 and 245 factory MPSS tires off the square or staggered 436m factory wheels. The 9.5" will not fit the 225 and it's highly recommended not putting the 245s on them because they'd stretch to much and won't seal properly.

Thanks! I've been leaning towards getting these wheels for a while now. Keep going back and forth but might pull the trigger soon.

[Benandluna]

Originally Posted by Joe240

If you aren't tracking or doing hard cornering, you should be fine.

Thank you sir, yeah I don't track and not very many windy roads near me where I can really drive aggressively.

I just ordered them staggered. I'll get some pics up once they are mounted.

[Vyruz Reaper]

Originally Posted by Joe240

Page 2 of this thread shows a back view straight down the side. From behind, you don't notice the poke at all unless you're a good distance behind so you can clearly see both sides. If you'd still like a picture let me know.

I'm running 19x8.5et39 front with 235/35 DWS06, 19x9.5et44 rear with 265/30 DWS06 for reference.

wait, so you got them machined and they are still poking?

Standard would poke more then, correct? Ayye, decisions decisions lol

[Vyruz Reaper]

Originally Posted by Benandluna

Thank you sir, yeah I don't track and not very many windy roads near me where I can really drive aggressively.

I just ordered them staggered. I'll get some pics up once they are mounted.

Congrats! Are you in Evil Land aka Danville? Haha - there are tons of windy roads around there

Did you do 18s staggered? I think I may go with 18s staggered too.

Are you planning on using the stock rear tires for the front and buy new ones for the rear?

[Joe240]

Originally Posted by Vyruz Reaper

wait, so you got them machined and they are still poking?

Standard would poke more then, correct? Ayye, decisions decisions lol

Yes, one are machines 4mm front and rear and there's still some poke front and rear. However, if you were lowered on springs you'd clear in the front, but the back wouldn't clear. If you had coilovers and could give the back some nice camber then you'd clear the back as well. This is only for a 235/265 setup. A 225/255 setup would clear being on springs without issues.

[Vyruz Reaper]

Originally Posted by Joe240

Yes, one are machines 4mm front and rear and there's still some poke front and rear. However, if you were lowered on springs you'd clear in the front, but the back wouldn't clear. If you had coilovers and could give the back some nice camber then you'd clear the back as well. This is only for a 235/265 setup. A 225/255 setup would clear being on springs without issues.

Thanks for the info! Sad that there is still some poke with it shaved.

So If i were to get the 18s - what type of tire setup should I go for, and can i use any of the stock tires? Maybe use the rears tires for the new 18x8.5 fronts?

Sorry for the 21 questions lol

[fbsm]

Originally Posted by Joe240

Yes, one are machines 4mm front and rear and there's still some poke front and rear. However, if you were lowered on springs you'd clear in the front, but the back wouldn't clear. If you had coilovers and could give the back some nice camber then you'd clear the back as well. This is only for a 235/265 setup. A 225/255 setup would clear being on springs without issues.

So you think the 255's on the machined 19" rears will clear no problem?

Will there be poke over the fender?

What about 235's on the front?

[Joe240]

Originally Posted by Vyruz Reaper

Thanks for the info! Sad that there is still some poke with it shaved.

So If i were to get the 18s - what type of tire setup should I go for, and can i use any of the stock tires? Maybe use the rears tires for the new 18x8.5 fronts?

Sorry for the 21 questions lol

People have done 245s up front, but not sure what adjustments they've had to make. I'd suggest 235 at the most if staying stock. From their it's up to you for trial and error.

[Joe240]

Originally Posted by fbsm

So you think the 255's on the machined 19" rears will clear no problem?

Will there be poke over the fender?

What about 235's on the front?

Yes, 255s on the rear will clear no problem when lowered. If staying stock then 265s. The et44x9.5 will poke themselves about 8-10mm. Personally I like the look and it's hardly noticeable.

235s up front on et35x8.5 will poke about 5mm give or take. Machines to et39 you'll be basically flush (what I'm running) no issues at all.

[fbsm]

Originally Posted by Joe240

Yes, 255s on the rear will clear no problem when lowered. If staying stock then 265s. The et44x9.5 will poke themselves about 8-10mm. Personally I like the look and it's hardly noticeable.

235s up front on et35x8.5 will poke about 5mm give or take. Machines to et39 you'll be basically flush (what I'm running) no issues at all.

On the rear

On stock springs with the 19's and ~1cm of poke are you running into wheel well/fender rub?

How about on lowered?

[Benandluna]

Originally Posted by Vyruz Reaper

Congrats! Are you in Evil Land aka Danville? Haha - there are tons of windy roads around there

Did you do 18s staggered? I think I may go with 18s staggered too.

Are you planning on using the stock rear tires for the front and buy new ones for the rear?

I'm in Richmond. I work in San Rafael but it's generally too late when I'm off to enjoy those Marin windy roads.

As for the set up I'm going with 18s staggered and staying with my stock tires probably for another 5k miles till I replace all tires. But I only have 8k on the car.

[Joe240]

Originally Posted by fbsm

On the rear

On stock springs with the 19's and ~1cm of poke are you running into wheel well/fender rub?

How about on lowered?

Absolutely zero rubbing on stock suspension. I'm not lowering because of the MP splitter, but I have compressed the rear enough to see that if lowered it would hit the fender with stock camber settings. You'd need 255s or coilovers for additional camber to avoid rubbing when lowered. The two shots below are the passenger side rear wheel 19x9.5et44 with 265/30 DWS06 all seasons under compression (really unlevel section I parked on). 255 would be more of a stretch so would definitely clear the fender.

[Joe240]

Originally Posted by fbsm

On the rear

On stock springs with the 19's and ~1cm of poke are you running into wheel well/fender rub?

How about on lowered?

Here's the front driver side (picture taken same time the rear pictures were taken). Again, fronts are 235/35 19x8.5et39 DWS06 all seasons.

[Joe240]

With those pictures in mind, a 245 up front would probably fit with stock suspension, but would need camber if lowering.

Also, did a nice run with some guys from cars and coffee today through some hills and twisters here in Germany (Ramstein to Johannesburg) and had zero issues with rubbing and the grip was phenominal. Car was planted the whole time with tons of confidence it'd stay like that when pushing it through the turns at high speeds.

[fbsm]

Originally Posted by Joe240

With those pictures in mind, a 245 up front would probably fit with stock suspension, but would need camber if lowering.

Also, did a nice run with some guys from cars and coffee today through some hills and twisters here in Germany (Ramstein to Johannesburg) and had zero issues with rubbing and the grip was phenominal. Car was planted the whole time with tons of confidence it'd stay like that when pushing it through the turns at high speeds.

Thank you very much for posting the photos and putting my mind at ease

[Joe240]

Originally Posted by fbsm

Thank you very much for posting the photos and putting my mind at ease

np, sorry for the potato quality. Only way to downsize pictures on iPhone was to crop them which made them essentially zoomed in pictures.