[Covfefe]

Hey guys, I'm looking to get into something newer than my 08 135i. I test drove a very nice M235i today with the M Performance LSD and MPE, but unfortunately, I thought the auto was terrible for the application. I'm no stranger to the ZF8 in BMWs, but for such a sporty car, I feel it fell apart trying to drop 4 gears after spamming the paddle shifters. I've been on the lookout for a 6mt M240i although I've never driven a stick (I'm 19 and just haven't had the opportunity), but damn is the selection limited.

This is what I see nationwide: https://www.autotempest.com/results?...ansmission=man

Is the selection always so poor? I know the take rate for the manual is low, but man, I hoped for more than 8 coupes nationwide. I feel that the only one I have any interest in is very overpriced, but with so few cars on the market, I guess they can charge what they want. I just don't want to pass up on this one and regret it because there may not be another one I like for some time.

[MPR]

The odds of getting your desired color combo, packages, mileage, and price in MT is going to be tough. I'm in the same bought, may have to buy new which I was hoping to avoid.

[Covfefe]

Originally Posted by MPR

The odds of getting your desired color combo, packages, mileage, and price in MT is going to be tough. I'm in the same bought, may have to buy new which I was hoping to avoid.

This is true. My wants are an exterior other than white or black, and interior other than black, 6mt, coupe, summer tire package, and the nav screen. I'm willing to overlook one of those if it is the right car, but I'm in no hurry to buy. If I wanted to buy new, I'd get an M2 instead. But that car isn't worth the money for the car or the insurance at this point in my life.

[MPR]

The price of a new M2 is craziness. I find the M240 priced relatively reasonable at $50k. For what you get, it's pretty good.

[Covfefe]

Originally Posted by MPR

The price of a new M2 is craziness. I find the M240 priced relatively reasonable at $50k. For what you get, it's pretty good.

I think the M2 comp is probably worth the coin when you consider the resale over a new M240i. By the way, is your username in reference to the Ruger MPR?

[YerrowDriver]

Originally Posted by MPR

The odds of getting your desired color combo, packages, mileage, and price in MT is going to be tough. I'm in the same bought, may have to buy new which I was hoping to avoid.

Exactly what happened to me...
I couldn't even find a MT... Crazy!
Bit the bullet, neged the best possible deal for a 2020 and it has been about 30 days since the order... about 45-60 more to go...

[MPR]

Originally Posted by Covfefe

I think the M2 comp is probably worth the coin when you consider the resale over a new M240i. By the way, is your username in reference to the Ruger MPR?

Good point, and that is true for most. I drive 100 miles per day for work so when I buy a car I consider racking up 100k-200k+ miles and do not consider resale value. Whatever car I buy gets driven into high mileage territory where re-sale value isn't much of a consideration. I really wonder how the B58 will do in the long term.

And no, it's my initials backwards.

[ggggbmw]

Rare enough that the only one I've ever seen in the wild was ordered that way for euro delivery. When you consider how relatively rare a 2 is, it's not surprising that manuals are super rare. And the people who do have manuals are generally hanging on to them.

They are way more common on M2's, where the take rate is about 50%. You would probably have better luck finding a nice used first gen N55 M2 with a manual.

[Sportstick]

Originally Posted by Covfefe

This is true. My wants are an exterior other than white or black, and interior other than black, 6mt, coupe, summer tire package, and the nav screen. I'm willing to overlook one of those if it is the right car, but I'm in no hurry to buy. If I wanted to buy new, I'd get an M2 instead. But that car isn't worth the money for the car or the insurance at this point in my life.

Did you check BMWCCA.org classified ads? I see a couple of MT 2 Series of different kinds, not exactly your combination, but worth reading about maybe?

[Covfefe]

Originally Posted by Sportstick

Did you check BMWCCA.org classified ads? I see a couple of MT 2 Series of different kinds, not exactly your combination, but worth reading about maybe?

I'm not a CCA member; is that worth the $134? This speaks to me a bit as I would love a 135is, but I can't view the ad. Not sure I could be bothered with the upkeep on carbon black, though.

[Covfefe]

Originally Posted by ggggbmw

Rare enough that the only one I've ever seen in the wild was ordered that way for euro delivery. When you consider how relatively rare a 2 is, it's not surprising that manuals are super rare. And the people who do have manuals are generally hanging on to them.

They are way more common on M2's, where the take rate is about 50%. You would probably have better luck finding a nice used first gen N55 M2 with a manual.

That's true, but the M2 doesn't do a whole lot for me that the M240i does not. I'd rather spend around $30k for a nice example of an M240 than ~$45k for an M2. Plus, I like the moonroof!

[dradernh]

Originally Posted by Covfefe

I'm not a CCA member; is that worth the $134?

A one-year membership is $48.

Keep in mind that a car listed as having a manual transmission doesn't mean that it has a manual transmission. It just means that's how the car was listed.

[Sportstick]

I believe the ads are open to viewing to all. I just looked on my phone without any login. Google BMWCCA classifieds.

But, the club is excellent. I just re-upped for five years before the price increase coming in February.

[dradernh]

Originally Posted by Sportstick

I believe the ads are open to viewing to all. I just looked on my phone without any login. Google BMWCCA classifieds.

But, the club is excellent. I just re-upped for five years before the price increase coming in February.

I too re-upped in time to get five years at the pre-increase rate. I'd argue that Roundel is worth the cost of membership all by itself.

[Covfefe]

Originally Posted by Sportstick

I believe the ads are open to viewing to all. I just looked on my phone without any login. Google BMWCCA classifieds.

But, the club is excellent. I just re-upped for five years before the price increase coming in February.

I just tried the link again and it worked without an "access denied" page. Weird. I only see 1 6mt m235i on the site, and I think it's an excellent example. It's obviously been cared for with the clear bra, frequent oil changes, etc. I wish it had some color and a moonroof, though.

[Sportstick]

Originally Posted by Covfefe

I just tried the link again and it worked without an "access denied" page. Weird. I only see 1 6mt m235i on the site, and I think it's an excellent example. It's obviously been cared for with the clear bra, frequent oil changes, etc. I wish it had some color and a moonroof, though.

If otherwise good, color = full body wrap.

I guess the two M2 or convertible on there are too far off your intention?

[Covfefe]

Originally Posted by Sportstick

If otherwise good, color = full body wrap.

I guess the two M2 or convertible on there are too far off your intention?

That guy with the orange car is wack if he thinks he is getting $59,000, and an M2, in any case, is just a bit more car than I need. I really wish I could like the ZF8's molasses downshifts

[trilax59]

The M240i became available in 2017, so figure if most people driving them are on a 3-year lease, then you should see a lot of CPO and pre-owned hitting the market in 2020-2021.

[cyclingismylife]

Originally Posted by Covfefe

I feel it fell apart trying to drop 4 gears after spamming the paddle shifters.

I just wanted to point out that you can hold down the left paddle and the car will drop to the lowest gear immediately without having to shift through each gear. Just an FYI in case you decide to go with the auto. This is the first auto car I have ever owned and I had serious reservations of not getting a manual and It's really growing on me the more I drive it.

[dradernh]

Originally Posted by trilax59

The M240i became available in 2017, so figure if most people driving them are on a 3-year lease, then you should see a lot of CPO and pre-owned hitting the market in 2020-2021.

It would be interesting to see the difference in MT take rates between lessees and buyers.

I've wondered - do dealers even stock the MT M240i? I've assumed almost all of them have been cars built to order.

[cristo]

There were two new M240i convertibles
at a dealer one town over in Lancaster
last month and no others in all of
South Central PA.
We bought one, and the other was sold
soon after.

Keep in mind that convertibles don’t
usually sell quickly in December

[morphomeman]

The question is whether dealers stock MT 240s, though I agree that, if I were looking to score big on a convertible, I would search for one in stock in the winter in colder climes.