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      07-17-2014, 08:17 PM   #23
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How about a stripped-down 320i wagon with no sunroof, RWD, and - perhaps - a manual transmission, all for sale in the US?
I'd buy one of these in a heartbeat!
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      07-17-2014, 08:18 PM   #24
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How much trust can you put in a test drive review written by someone who doesn't know the difference between curb weight and gross vehicle weight? 4153 pounds is the gross vehicle weight, which is the maximum weight allowed for the vehicle including passengers and cargo. This seems like basic knowledge for anyone that knows anything about cars.
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      07-17-2014, 08:34 PM   #26
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I'm actually really excited about this car. If I were in a hurry to replace my old X3 right now, and this active tourer were out in the states already, I would probably get this car, or the i3.

I love driving the i3 but it's not that big. This has the practicality of an SUV, possibly great fuel economy, and I think it looks nice. It'll be great for trips and as a family car.

This, in Estoril Blue and M Sport, would look sick next to my EBII M235i.
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      07-17-2014, 08:36 PM   #27
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I think I know what BMW is doing with this type of cars.
They need a bigger product line in order to make better profits over their R&D expenses.
But I think they need another brand to do so. It is very expensive to create a new brand, but if they continue this way, they may lower the exclusivity and appeal of the BMW brand. I think they have to be very careful.
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      07-17-2014, 09:27 PM   #28
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The interior looks amazing, even if it was on a higher end BMW it would fit. I think that it has a lot going for it just for that reason.

MB has been making the A-Klasse and B-Klasse for a long time; if they can play in that segment and still make the S-Klasse which sells without any hiccups regarding exclusivity due to existence of the lower end models, then BMW should be just fine making the 2 Series Active Tourer alongside the rest of the fleet.

That all being said, the X0 comment was pretty funny. I also don't get why this is a 2 series when seeing the "real" 2 series, but without going to decimals or letters other than X or M ... BMW has kind of used up all of the whole numbers from 1 - 7 (and 8 but that's been a while). So, they are reusing a number or two. Can you blame them?

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      07-17-2014, 09:30 PM   #29
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Why does this have a better interior than every BMW that isn't a 5er or higher?

Also that shifter and surrounding area is EXTREMELY well executed. I doesn't look cheap at all. Gloss used and very minimal matte plastic found in other BMWs, specifically the 2er and 3/4er.
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      07-17-2014, 09:36 PM   #30
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      07-17-2014, 09:57 PM   #31
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I can't wait till the M Division gets their hands on this baby!
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I think I know what BMW is doing with this type of cars.
They need a bigger product line in order to make better profits over their R&D expenses.
But I think they need another brand to do so. It is very expensive to create a new brand, but if they continue this way, they may lower the exclusivity and appeal of the BMW brand. I think they have to be very careful.
Dilution of the brand ethos is definitely a watchout...OTOH, they gotta pay for all that I3 I8 expense somehow..
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      07-17-2014, 10:28 PM   #33
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I wonder if this is aimed at the audi a3 sportback and mercedes a class. It looks great and practicle!
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      07-17-2014, 11:26 PM   #34
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      07-17-2014, 11:39 PM   #35
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BMW needs a new naming designation for this and I wouldn't care if they make FWD cars.
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This will do well in Europe..but please don't bring this to the US. There is really no market here for a FWD 2 series AT.

On a side note, the interior is really nice...better than the 3er
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This is a great addition to the BMW family in EU.
I wouldn't expect that much, since the pricetag should be "decent".
But then again the mini as a FWD drives great, and the X-drive is an option.
But it's competitor is B class.
And with such a nice interiour, and it's practical spacy layout and form, it will suit young families and senior drivers.
I think it will do better than the 3GT.
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Don't see this selling well in the US. Definitely be a hit overseas.
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      07-18-2014, 02:22 AM   #39
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The 2er Active Tourer (aka B-fighter) is gonna give MB a run for its money in Germany! I think this car will provide BMW households with a "practical" tall hatch for a lot of European customers. Just wish I could have gone to Innsbruck to test drive one.
and the new Golf Sportsvan is going to give the run for the money to both MB and BMW; the VW is gorgeous to look at and a normally priced. This Active Tourer has the price list of the 3series.
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I'm just saying... I'd rather go to work on that cow than in that BMW.
you would get a lot more attention with that cow for sure, poser
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      07-18-2014, 02:38 AM   #41
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I'm actually really excited about this car. If I were in a hurry to replace my old X3 right now, and this active tourer were out in the states already, I would probably get this car, or the i3.

I love driving the i3 but it's not that big. This has the practicality of an SUV, possibly great fuel economy, and I think it looks nice. It'll be great for trips and as a family car.

This, in Estoril Blue and M Sport, would look sick next to my EBII M235i.

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AUTOCAR says kerb weight is 1375kg = 3031lbs.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/...t-drive-review
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      07-18-2014, 03:52 AM   #43
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I would take the 2AT over the B-class..


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      07-18-2014, 04:36 AM   #44
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And WTF the HUD???????

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