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      11-26-2023, 11:31 AM   #177
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No amount of wind tunnel can help their strategy team I'm afraid.
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but it can't hurt
Being faster is usually the best strategy
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      11-26-2023, 11:32 AM   #178
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That's for sure . Today Ferrari was fast enough to beat Mercedes in the WCC ...

But the Italian Ferrari clown strategy screwed it up (as usual)!

We are waiting.... For a safety car !
Watching the full race now.
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      11-26-2023, 12:18 PM   #179
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Check the finger from the greatest driver ever in F1 history !

MAX = #UnLeashTheLion !!!
At the start if it was Checo on pole, Charlie would have been through. Only Max's know how kept the quick starting Chas behind.
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      11-26-2023, 12:25 PM   #180
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Watching the full race now.
Wolff post race :

I'm very impressed by MAX's new record of 19 wins in one season ! But....

We've done that too in the 2016 season !

But with 2 drivers
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      11-26-2023, 12:27 PM   #181
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Wolff post race :

I'm very impressed by MAX's new record of 19 wins in one season ! But....

We've done that too in the 2016 season !

But with 2 drivers
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      11-26-2023, 12:34 PM   #182
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Check the finger from the greatest driver ever in F1 history !

MAX = #UnLeashTheLion !!!
At the start if it was Checo on pole, Charlie would have been through. Only Max's know how kept the quick starting Chas behind.
Yes , both had a great start and Charlie was very fast in the first 6-7 laps .
The fight from Charlie vs MAX was a clean fight .

No dirty tricks . No dogs fight !

MAX would win this race 100 times ...'

How this 2023 season looked like ?
MAX has racing in his blood, the others drivers were bleeding while racing.
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      11-26-2023, 12:43 PM   #183
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And insider information
My source was this Dutch article => https://www.f1maximaal.nl/formule-1/...-ongeloofelijk

If you wish Google-Translate can be your friend . => https://translate.google.com/?hl=nl

Just Copy&Paste my friend
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Yes , both had a great start and Charlie was very fast in the first 6-7 laps .
The fight from Charlie vs MAX was a clean fight .

No dirty tricks . No dogs fight !

MAX would win this race 100 times ...'

How this 2023 season looked like ?
MAX has racing in his blood, the others drivers were bleeding while racing.
Max knows this track from '21 where he crushed LEW so could almost drive it with one hand on the wheel..showing the finger with the other hand to where tots was sitting
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Max knows this track from '21 where he crushed LEW so could almost drive it with one hand on the wheel..showing the finger with the other hand to where tots was sitting
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No way Checo should have got 5 sec penalty with Norris clash, LN turned into Checo while Checo was ahead.
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      11-26-2023, 01:11 PM   #187
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No way Checo should have got 5 sec penalty with Norris clash, LN turned into Checo while Checo was ahead.
McLaren lost it in the last 2 races . Too bad !

I'm still in disbelief that a fast Ferrari lost it from the Mercedes 5H1Tbox !

As for the Ferrari strategy : Ferrari Fred is even worse than Bino !
But the main reason is ITALIAN !
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McLaren lost it in the last 2 races . Too bad !

I'm still in unbelief that a fast Ferrari lost it from the Mercedes 5H1Tbox !

As for the Ferrari strategy : Ferrari Fred is even worse than Bino !
But the main reason is ITALIAN !
Charlie did the swap with Checo too late to try to hold Russell beyond 5 seconds to Checo !
Chas was doing all the strat while Ferrari was ASLEEP !!! ..shpagetti and vino verde on the red team lunch again...
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Watching the full race now.
=> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TA0Aq0GFrjc
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Max's pole, race win and FL perfectly complements that quick vid of his F1 start year to the present...and leading more than 1000 laps this year smashes another record, leaving just one or two more to go, this is just the start
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Drivers can't say anything, can't undo their race suit a bit after race... the gov. body have turned into a bunch of strict headmasters.
Perez has definitely a right to disagree and to state his opinion. But he should refrain from making ad hominem statements, viciously attacking the Stewards. He has the right to appeal decisions taken by the stewards if he believes those to be ill-founded.

Referees don't expect you to agree with all their decisions or to glorify them. But they do expect you to respect them; they do the same vis-à-vis the drivers and drivers may expect that too - that's fundamental. Referees are present to make the sport happen in an orderly way. And as human beings, can mistakes too. Feel free to dispute the merits of a decision, consider appealing a decision, but, at all times, leave out ad hominem comments. Even if worked up in the heat of a fight, engage brain before speech.

Furthermore, Perez should watch the replays and analyze why Stewards blamed him for the Norris collision.
Formal warning for Perez.

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Remember Vettel insulting the late Charlie Whiting during the Mexico 2016 race:

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Imagine for a moment that during the post-race interview of the 2021 Saudi Arabian race in Jeddah on Dec 5, 2021, a journalist would have told Hamilton: "Lewis, congratulations on your hard-fought race win. Well done, as expected from the reigning 7-time F1 world champion. But do enjoy this moment as much as you can, because you will not manage to win even one single race of the next 45 races. Verstappen, on the other hand, will win 35 of those. Mark my words."

As absurd as that might have sounded back then, that's what has happened over the course of the past two years: 0/45 (0%) versus 35/45 (77.78%).

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Formal warning for Perez.

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Remember Vettel insulting the late Charlie Whiting during the Mexico 2016 race:
I don't think that Checo said anything that bad and he was then forced to apologise (what for ?) to answer to their own written sporting code and it's detracting from the actual incident.
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I don't think that Checo said anything that bad and he was then forced to apologise (what for ?) to answer to their own written sporting code and it's detracting from the actual incident.
Good for Checo
According to a Dutch article, Perez attacked the competence of the F1 stewards by messaging via the onboard radio that they are "F1 unworthy".

Say what you want, but that's a poor way of challenging the merits of a decision. Better point out why the decision is wrong according to you, instead of stating that the decision is wrong because the referees (stewards) are allegedly incompetent. And if it's truly your personal conviction that the referees (stewards) are unfit for the job, feel free to contact FIA to explain what bothers you about them.
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According to a Dutch article, Perez attacked the competence of the F1 stewards by messaging via the onboard radio that they are "F1 unworthy".

Say what you want, but that's a poor way of challenging the merits of a decision. Better point out why the decision is wrong according to you, instead of stating that the decision is wrong because the referees (stewards) are allegedly incompetent. And if it's truly your personal conviction that the referees (stewards) are unfit for the job, feel free to contact FIA to explain what bothers you about them.
This is all it was, he called them a joke and I don't see anything that bad there and I'm sure many Checo and other fans would agree with me.
https://racingnews365.com/perez-lear...dhabi-stewards
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According to a Dutch article, Perez attacked the competence of the F1 stewards by messaging via the onboard radio that they are "F1 unworthy".

Say what you want, but that's a poor way of challenging the merits of a decision. Better point out why the decision is wrong according to you, instead of stating that the decision is wrong because the referees (stewards) are allegedly incompetent. And if it's truly your personal conviction that the referees (stewards) are unfit for the job, feel free to contact FIA to explain what bothers you about them.
Listen to the radio. All he said was basically that there were bad calls all season and that this one was a joke. 100% on Checo's side on this one.

The penalty was a joke and then calling him in to kiss their feet is pathetic. Those in charge need to be able to take criticism or they shouldn't be there.
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