[stevenkoiter]

Updated the E-sys and PSdZData on my laptop.

The error looks different now, but so is the E-sys version.
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[stevenkoiter]

Ok, got it (sort of) working now!

I forgot to add "6AE" (TELESERVICES).

So in short
-Change 606 and 6NH to 609 and 6NS
-Delete 698
-Add 6CP and 6AE

Still two issues.
-No audio
-Idrive controller not working

[shawnsheridan]

Originally Posted by stevenkoiter

Ok, got it (sort of) working now!

I forgot to add "6AE" (TELESERVICES).

So in short
-Change 606 and 6NH to 609 and 6NS
-Add 6CP and 6AE

Still two issues.
-No audio
-Idrive controller not working

I presume correct Amp and Controller settings must be either FDL Coded in HU.

[stevenkoiter]

So a small update, audio is only working with engine running. The car has the base audio so should not have an external amp. According to chatgpt I need to code the following.

HU_NBT2
└─ 3000 AUDIO_TUNER_TRAFFIC
AUDIO_SYSTEM = base
AMP_VARIANT = internal
INTERNAL_AMP_ENABLE = aktiv
EXTERNAL_AMP_PRESENT = nicht_aktiv

HU_NBT2
└─ 3001 AUDIO_POWER
AUDIO_ENABLE_KL30 = aktiv
AUDIO_ENABLE_KL15 = aktiv

HU_NBT2
└─ 3001 POWER_MANAGEMENT
TERMINAL_WAKE_ENABLE = aktiv
WAKE_ON_BUS_ACTIVITY = aktiv


I don't really trust chatgpt but during this retrofit it has helped some times.

[mrpingu]

Originally Posted by stevenkoiter

So a small update, audio is only working with engine running. The car has the base audio so should not have an external amp. According to chatgpt I need to code the following.

HU_NBT2
└─ 3000 AUDIO_TUNER_TRAFFIC
AUDIO_SYSTEM = base
AMP_VARIANT = internal
INTERNAL_AMP_ENABLE = aktiv
EXTERNAL_AMP_PRESENT = nicht_aktiv

HU_NBT2
└─ 3001 AUDIO_POWER
AUDIO_ENABLE_KL30 = aktiv
AUDIO_ENABLE_KL15 = aktiv

HU_NBT2
└─ 3001 POWER_MANAGEMENT
TERMINAL_WAKE_ENABLE = aktiv
WAKE_ON_BUS_ACTIVITY = aktiv


I don't really trust chatgpt but during this retrofit it has helped some times.

As audio is working with engine running I suspect you should code this part. This references to the KL15 and KL30 terminals which are ignition (15) and always (30)

The first block looks also logical and correct and the last block I am not sure but could be needed. All in all do I think ChatGPT is not far off with these codes.

[boldorider4]

Hey stevenkoiter, never rely on ChatGPT's parameters. At best try Germini, but I would refrain from parameters from LLM's, since there is too little data out there for them to provide accurate reponses.

I suspect your FA is invalid somehow. In the Expert panel, there's also an NCD preparation feature. It allows you to generate an NCD file (basically the CAFD, the file you upload to code the device) for a given FA and a given SVT ist (look for the tab that allows creation based on SVT). The SVT ist you can save it from the Coding step after you do Read ECU.

The generated CAFD (NCD) can also be later used to code the respective ECU.
If the FA is indeed the problem, the CAFD generation will fail at the preparation step.

[boldorider4]

If you still can't manage, we can have a zoom call (or GMeet) where you show me around your E-Sys when we both have time.

[stevenkoiter]

Originally Posted by boldorider4

Hey stevenkoiter, never rely on ChatGPT's parameters. At best try Germini, but I would refrain from parameters from LLM's, since there is too little data out there for them to provide accurate reponses.

I suspect your FA is invalid somehow. In the Expert panel, there's also an NCD preparation feature. It allows you to generate an NCD file (basically the CAFD, the file you upload to code the device) for a given FA and a given SVT ist (look for the tab that allows creation based on SVT). The SVT ist you can save it from the Coding step after you do Read ECU.

The generated CAFD (NCD) can also be later used to code the respective ECU.
If the FA is indeed the problem, the CAFD generation will fail at the preparation step.

Thanks, I'll try your suggestion and get back with the results.

[stevenkoiter]

Yesterday finally had some time to check the "no audio in accessory mode".
The car I have originally came with the CIC HU. This HU when powered up send 12v to the "Radio_on" pin (pin 13). I noticed my radio reception was not that good with the NBT evo unit. Searching via google gave me several thread were this issue has been fixed by connecting the 13 cable to the 15 "Power 12v -Terminal 30 - 20amp" pin.
For the CIC to NBT evo retrofit you need a OABR - retrofit cable, so I could just modify this cable without changing the original car wiring.
Setup is working perfect now

This upgrade makes the car so much more modern, highly recommended! Only debating if I want to add a GPS module to the unit, as I don't have the ATM module in my car. I would do this only to make the retrofit as OEM as possible, Carplay with Waze / maps and Spotify is such a game changer.