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      08-19-2016, 03:19 AM   #1
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F series adaptive - Bilstein damptronic PnP dampers

Taken from Bilstein website - F series damptronic PnP dampers. Aftermarket alternative to OEM adaptive dampers.....



From L to R in the picture above
B4 - OE adaptive
B6 - upgraded adaptive
B16 - c/o's


Extract from Bilstein EU website:-
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05.08.2016

Perfect replacements: BILSTEIN announces DampTronic® components for BMW 1 Series to 4 Series

The new generations of the 1, 2, 3 and 4 Series BMW are equipped with clever suspension technology which makes them well versed in the core virtues of agility and handling. To ensure that the ultimate driving experience lasts throughout the service life of the vehicles, BILSTEIN will expand its range of standard replacement components and complete suspensions. Details will be announced at automechanika in September. In addition to the already available products for models without adaptive shock absorbers, vehicles with standard EDC are then also covered by the new DampTronic variants. In contrast to the competition, BILSTEIN will offer a complete portfolio of components for 1 Series to 4 Series vehicles. Plug-and-play makes installation easy.

The gas-pressure shock absorber type B4 DampTronic will be the replacement for standard parts in best OE quality, offering constant damping under any load, precise handling and high traction. “Better than the original” was the principle for the development of the BILSTEIN B6 DampTronic shock absorber, that features twin-tube or mono-tube upside-down technology. It delivers uncompromising road holding and increased tracking stability even in extreme situations, for example when pulling a trailer or with a heavy load in the vehicle.

Customers with standard active dampers looking for an even sportier driving experience with variable vehicle height can soon find their ideal partner in the BILSTEIN B16 DampTronic. The coilover suspension additionally allows adjustment of the damping force and features an adjustment range that is suitable for approval, permitting subsequent height adjustment without renewed approval. The “robust lightweight design” with numerous aluminum parts also supports the dynamic handling of the vehicle while ensuring a long service life.

BILSTEIN has been offering numerous standard replacement parts and suspensions without DampTronic® for all mentioned vehicles without actively controlled shock absorbers for some time. For example, the BILSTEIN B4 and B6 shock absorbers as well as the B8 are designed for combining with lowering springs. Other highlights in the range are the complete suspension BILSTEIN B12 Pro-Kit and the B14 and B16 coilover suspensions. The latter is available in the ridecontrol® version which offers ride modes that can be selected from the cockpit.

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BILSTEIN B4 DampTronic
•Article number: 23-238916 FAL, RRP: 407.00 euros excl. VAT
(for 2WD BMW 1-4 Series)
•Article number: 23-266469 FAL, RRP: 427.00 euros excl. VAT
(for 4WD BMW 1-4 Series)
•Article number: 23-238923 FAR, RRP: 407.00 euros excl. VAT
(for 2WD BMW 1-4 Series)
•Article number: 23-266476 FAR, RRP: 427.00 euros excl. VAT
(for 4WD BMW 1-4 Series)
•Article number: 20-238933 RA, RRP: 305.00 euros excl. VAT

BILSTEIN B6 DampTronic (for 2WD BMW 1-4 Series)
•Article number: 23-250727 FAL, RRP: 469.00 euros excl. VAT
(for 2WD BMW 1-4 Series)
•Article number: 23-266483 FAL, RRP: 479.00 euros excl. VAT
(for 4WD BMW 1-4 Series)
•Article number: 23-250734 FAR, RRP: 469.00 euros excl. VAT
(for 2WD BMW 1-4 Series)
•Article number: 23-266490 FAR, RRP: 479.00 euros excl. VAT
(for 4WD BMW 1-4 Series)
•Article number: 20-250744 RA, RRP: 359.00 euros excl. VAT


BILSTEIN B16 DampTronic (for 2WD BMW 1-4 Series)
•Article number: 49-255935, RRP: 2280.00 euros excl. VAT
•Article number: 49-255980, RRP: 2380.00 euros excl. VAT
Shame they don't offer B8 damptronic for our cars....

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Shame they don't offer B8 damptronic for our cars....

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Any word on pricing? KW already makes an EDC coilover but it's pricey at 3500 USD.Though that B6 looks attractive to me.
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No word on USD pricing yet - only whats shown in Euro as its lifted from Bilstein EU website.

Agree B6 DT look like a better aftermarket solution, esp as I'm running lowered springs, for when replacing worn out OEM adaptive dampers
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No word on USD pricing yet - only whats shown in Euro as its lifted from Bilstein EU website.

Agree B6 DT look like a better aftermarket solution, esp as I'm running lowered springs, for when replacing worn out OEM adaptive dampers
That's my thinking,too.I just might spring for CO if I want to do any lowering.
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Hopefully we get more info about this soon.
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Update via Bilstein UK customer services

B6 and b16 damptronic for F2x and F3x go into production July 17 for deliveries by end August 17
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Any information / links on the actual design, that is, how the EDC compatibility is implemented?

ps: I saw some preliminary info / pictures (supposedly from Bilstein) on those that showed the wiring would go into the strut through the top and would require additional wiring to be made to make it work. I wonder if it's true for the final product(s) because that would be a pain to install.
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Any information / links on the actual design, that is, how the EDC compatibility is implemented?

ps: I saw some preliminary info / pictures (supposedly from Bilstein) on those that showed the wiring would go into the strut through the top and would require additional wiring to be made to make it work. I wonder if it's true for the final product(s) because that would be a pain to install.
Damptronic [DT] for F8x are same as stock ie cable runs up thru top mount at the front AFAIK.

F2x and F3x B16 "ride control" products have the cable tails in the same position as oem struts and damper, so do Bilstein B4 DT.

I doubt therefore B6 DT and or B16 DT will have cable tails routed elsewhere but I guess we will have to wait and see......
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Hi,

new to the forum but keen to see what you think about the new B12+Damptronic offering from Bilstein/Eibach.

Seems to be released to the market but I can't find them for sale anywhere?

https://www.bilstein.com/us/en/blog/...ries-4-series/

https://www.fastcar.co.uk/products/b...-m-suspension/
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Seems pretty expensive!

Fronts: 23-250734 & 23-250727 ($500/ea)
Rear: 20-250744 (~$400/ea)

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Seems pretty expensive!

Fronts: 23-250734 & 23-250727 ($500/ea)
Rear: 20-250744 (~$400/ea)
Price wise that's not really that bad compared to using the OEM adaptive suspension if you wanted to go that route, or going some of the EDC capable coilovers.

But none of these seem to have the M235i listed as a supported vehicle, I wonder why.
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So I emailed Bilstein inquiring into fitment of these to our cars, since nowhere was the M235i listed as a supported car and this was the response I got:

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We cannot confirm fitment for your M235i. We have not verified fit on the M model car and have not cataloged them due to the ride height difference in the M235i. I do not have updates as far as tuning for this chassis.

They may physically bolt in however with the heavier spring rates found on most of the M model cars I’m not certain the dampening forces would be adequate.
Now, granted in theory our cars and the 335 or 340 should be more or less similar, but officially our car is not a platform they specifically developed for, and no info available on if/when it will be either.

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I would recommend just going wit the KW DDC coilovers designed specifically for this car.
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F2X / F3X RWD Bily B6 DT now available on Oscaro site:-....

Left front €410 https://www.oscaro.pt/pt/amortecedor...42#/?vid=47466

Right front €424 https://www.oscaro.pt/pt/amortecedor...43#/?vid=47466

2 x rears €634 https://www.oscaro.pt/pt/amortecedor...20#/?vid=47466

In the UK, YT vlogger Joe Achilles has had a set of B6 DT's retrofitted by Motech to his adaptive M140i RWD.....



Motech selling these dampers @ £1285:

https://motechperformance.*********....m235-m140-m240
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Until a vendor in the US starts carrying them and someone is willing to put them on and give feedback, there will be limited uptake here in the US.
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F2X / F3X RWD Bily B6 DT now available on Oscaro site:-....

Left front €410 https://www.oscaro.pt/pt/amortecedor...42#/?vid=47466

Right front €424 https://www.oscaro.pt/pt/amortecedor...43#/?vid=47466

2 x rears €634 https://www.oscaro.pt/pt/amortecedor...20#/?vid=47466

In the UK, YT vlogger Joe Achilles has had a set of B6 DT's retrofitted by Motech to his adaptive M140i RWD.....

Any movement on this product I'm very intrested



Motech selling these dampers @ £1285:

https://motechperformance.*********....m235-m140-m240
Any movement on these I'm very intrested.
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Has anyone tried them in the US yet? Thinking of trying these with some Swift Springs as my next suspension upgrade.

RWD:
https://www.bimmerworld.com/Suspensi...BoClWQQAvD_BwE

AWD:
https://www.bimmerworld.com/Suspensi...xoClmYQAvD_BwE

Springs:
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-swift-pa...xr/4x915r~swt/
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Has anyone tried them in the US yet? Thinking of trying these with some Swift Springs as my next suspension upgrade.

RWD:
https://www.bimmerworld.com/Suspensi...BoClWQQAvD_BwE

AWD:
https://www.bimmerworld.com/Suspensi...xoClmYQAvD_BwE

Springs:
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-swift-pa...xr/4x915r~swt/
This is not going to work on the 235/240i because the damping MO and hardware is slightly different and specific to this vehicle model, over the ones listed on their website as compatible.

It would operate fine on the 228/230i though.
So the M235/240 EDC won't communicate with the Bilstein dampers?

The KW DDC kit for F2X and F3x is the same and there are multiple kits installed in both platforms without issues.

Have you tried it?
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Has anyone tried them in the US yet? Thinking of trying these with some Swift Springs as my next suspension upgrade.

RWD:
https://www.bimmerworld.com/Suspensi...BoClWQQAvD_BwE

AWD:
https://www.bimmerworld.com/Suspensi...xoClmYQAvD_BwE

Springs:
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-swift-pa...xr/4x915r~swt/
This is not going to work on the 235/240i because the damping MO and hardware is slightly different and specific to this vehicle model, over the ones listed on their website as compatible.

It would operate fine on the 228/230i though.
So the M235/240 EDC won't communicate with the Bilstein dampers?

The KW DDC kit for F2X and F3x is the same and there are multiple kits installed in both platforms without issues.

Have you tried it?
Nevermind, I was looking at a different model. It seems like it's listed as compatible. Ignore what I said.
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Interested in seeing a comparison between the b6 dampers + aftermarket springs vs the KW v1 EDC. One of them will be the major suspension upgrade for my car.
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I am leaning KW because of the stainless steel bodies... Important consideration for me as I live in NJ.
Are the Bilsteins not stainless steel?
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