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      10-13-2019, 05:53 AM   #1
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Test driven an M2C and said not worth it?

I originally cross shopped the OG M2 and the m240i. In the end I decided the only thing the OG m2 had over the m240i THAT MATTERED to me was its looks and sound. I actually prefer the b58 over the n55, the better ride of the m240i and the all wheel drive capability of the m240i. So I got one.

I've enjoyed it, but I don't find I am that passionate about the car.

Anyhow, reading many positive reviews of the M2C I thought I would focus on that car, as perhaps I would prefer it over the m240i.

I recently test drove one. My impressions:

the s55 is a beast in terms of torque, but I actually didn't find it pulled as strongly as the b58 at low revs. When I got back into my car, I was actually surprised that around town at anything less than full throttle it actually felt faster than the s55 m2c. There is also an eagerness to the b58 that the s55 didn't seem to have. It just feels like it wants to go.

The s55 did not sound as bad as I expected, but it also didn't sound as good as the b58 (with m exhaust)

I also found the s55 seemed to have more turbo lag, which is something I have a unique sensitivity to.

So bottom line I preferred the b58 over the s55.

the ride of the m2c definitely felt more composed that of the Og m2. I could live with it.

The handling is as expected next level. The M2c felt almost as good as my old 981 Cayman S.

And of course, the looks, the M2c makes me look back at it, the m240i not so much.

So overall, I definitely liked the M2C more than the OG M2. But I didn't walk away saying I must make this move now.

Anyone had a similar experience?
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I originally cross shopped the OG M2 and the m240i. In the end I decided the only thing the OG m2 had over the m240i THAT MATTERED to me was its looks and sound. I actually prefer the b58 over the n55, the better ride of the m240i and the all wheel drive capability of the m240i. So I got one.

I've enjoyed it, but I don't find I am that passionate about the car.

Anyhow, reading many positive reviews of the M2C I thought I would focus on that car, as perhaps I would prefer it over the m240i.

I recently test drove one. My impressions:

the s55 is a beast in terms of torque, but I actually didn't find it pulled as strongly as the b58 at low revs. When I got back into my car, I was actually surprised that around town at anything less than full throttle it actually felt faster than the s55 m2c. There is also an eagerness to the b58 that the s55 didn't seem to have. It just feels like it wants to go.

The s55 did not sound as bad as I expected, but it also didn't sound as good as the b58 (with m exhaust)

I also found the s55 seemed to have more turbo lag, which is something I have a unique sensitivity to.

So bottom line I preferred the b58 over the s55.

the ride of the m2c definitely felt more composed that of the Og m2. I could live with it.

The handling is as expected next level. The M2c felt almost as good as my old 981 Cayman S.

And of course, the looks, the M2c makes me look back at it, the m240i not so much.

So overall, I definitely liked the M2C more than the OG M2. But I didn't walk away saying I must make this move now.

Anyone had a similar experience?
I drove the OG M2 when I had my M235i and was looking for a replacement. I felt like it wasn't enough of a step up to justify the premium over the M235i. I then drove the M240 (twice actually) and was blown away by the B58. When I ordered the M240i end if last year I considered the M2 comp. Again, I couldn't justify the premium over the M240 and really prefer the AWD in New England.

At the time, I didn't drive the M2C but got the chance to drive it over the summer. I agree that it lacks some low end compared to the B58. This is actually backed up by several reviewers. It was nice, and definitely looks more aggressive than the M240 but I don't regret the decision for a second.

Compared to the M235 the M240 is a little less engaging in some areas. The engine and efficiency do it for me though. I also look forward to the winter with the xDrive. My next car will be a Porsche but I plan on keeping the M240i too. It's the best all around car I've ever owned.
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I did and you are spot on. See my test drive impressions here.
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I did and you are spot on. See my test drive impressions here.
thanks, nice detailed review, interesting shared perception of the s55.

it is really the thought of giving up engine experience for the rest that causes me to hesitate and think I should just wait for the s58, but that will be years away...and I miss manual in the meantime and in the modern landscape there isn't really much out there in manual that has me interested other than the M2C

Are you still contemplating the M2C?
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I test drove OG m2 and it did not feel faster than my m240i but more stable. Then I went to test drive OG M4. I preferred m240i dash layout and I found the exhaust sound from M4 quite weird and unpleasant but loud compared to m240i.

Overall I did not think jumping early with the financial penalty was worth it

It would also be far cheaper to keep m240i long term as a DD
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I drove the OG M2 when I had my M235i and was looking for a replacement. I felt like it wasn't enough of a step up to justify the premium over the M235i. I then drove the M240 (twice actually) and was blown away by the B58. When I ordered the M240i end if last year I considered the M2 comp. Again, I couldn't justify the premium over the M240 and really prefer the AWD in New England.

At the time, I didn't drive the M2C but got the chance to drive it over the summer. I agree that it lacks some low end compared to the B58. This is actually backed up by several reviewers. It was nice, and definitely looks more aggressive than the M240 but I don't regret the decision for a second.

Compared to the M235 the M240 is a little less engaging in some areas. The engine and efficiency do it for me though. I also look forward to the winter with the xDrive. My next car will be a Porsche but I plan on keeping the M240i too. It's the best all around car I've ever owned.
What Porsche you thinking of getting?
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I drove the OG M2 when I had my M235i and was looking for a replacement. I felt like it wasn't enough of a step up to justify the premium over the M235i. I then drove the M240 (twice actually) and was blown away by the B58. When I ordered the M240i end if last year I considered the M2 comp. Again, I couldn't justify the premium over the M240 and really prefer the AWD in New England.

At the time, I didn't drive the M2C but got the chance to drive it over the summer. I agree that it lacks some low end compared to the B58. This is actually backed up by several reviewers. It was nice, and definitely looks more aggressive than the M240 but I don't regret the decision for a second.

Compared to the M235 the M240 is a little less engaging in some areas. The engine and efficiency do it for me though. I also look forward to the winter with the xDrive. My next car will be a Porsche but I plan on keeping the M240i too. It's the best all around car I've ever owned.
What Porsche you thinking of getting?
I've always dreamed of owning 911 Turbo but I'm in love with the Taycan at the moment. I'm waiting for an all electric 911 variant now.
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Are you still contemplating the M2C?
No. That ship has sailed for me. I was hoping it would work out based on my track needs and the fact that I don't want to spend an easy $5-6k on new suspension and whees/tires for my M240i, which it desperately needs, but after the test drive of the M2C, I'm 100% certain I'd be less happy in the end with the M2C even if money were no object. The recipe BMW used with just adding power and weight, while understandable from an emissions and regulations perspective, is really going in the opposite direction of what I'm ultimately after. My plan is to keep the 6-speed M240i, add suspension and wheels for track use, and hold on to it for as long as I can afford to keep it running. I will then add cars to the stable in the future to fulfill different needs. Maybe another Porsche in my future, but this time with PDK so the wife can enjoy it too. Or the G80 M3 to complement my other DD SUV for hauling the kids around on nicer days. Lots of cool cars out there, but I really don't think anything can replace the fun my M240i provides at the moment.
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I've always dreamed of owning 911 Turbo but I'm in love with the Taycan at the moment. I'm waiting for an all electric 911 variant now.
Just get a Taycan. Beautiful cars. Sorry, but 911s should always come with a screaming flat-6. Even an e-hybrid version would suffice, but all electric would be , IMHO.
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I've always dreamed of owning 911 Turbo but I'm in love with the Taycan at the moment. I'm waiting for an all electric 911 variant now.
Just get a Taycan. Beautiful cars. Sorry, but 911s should always come with a screaming flat-6. Even an e-hybrid version would suffice, but all electric would be , IMHO.
Not to mention they should always have a manual. The PDK is great, but when it comes to 911's and Cayman's/Boxster's, a manual is just the best experience.
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I've always dreamed of owning 911 Turbo but I'm in love with the Taycan at the moment. I'm waiting for an all electric 911 variant now.
Just get a Taycan. Beautiful cars. Sorry, but 911s should always come with a screaming flat-6. Even an e-hybrid version would suffice, but all electric would be , IMHO.
I get it...totally. Just as we're seeing the demise of the manual transmission, the internal combustion engine will someday be a thing of the past. That's why I'm keeping the 2. I'd rather drive a sub 3 second electric car with instant torque and auto pilot on my 80+ mile daily commute. I'll have the 2 to drive on the weekend when I want to burn some petrol.
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I've always dreamed of owning 911 Turbo but I'm in love with the Taycan at the moment. I'm waiting for an all electric 911 variant now.
Just get a Taycan. Beautiful cars. Sorry, but 911s should always come with a screaming flat-6. Even an e-hybrid version would suffice, but all electric would be , IMHO.
I get it...totally. Just as we're seeing the demise of the manual transmission, the internal combustion engine will someday be a thing of the past. That's why I'm keeping the 2. I'd rather drive a sub 3 second electric car with instant torque and auto pilot on my 80+ mile daily commute. I'll have the 2 to drive on the weekend when I want to burn some petrol.
Honestly electric cars in my opinion are great daily drivers, but not sports cars (at least for enthusiasts). They just lack the soul and joy of doing such things like shifting gears, revving out an engine, or listening to the exhaust.

If Tesla could make an interior that could get close to my CLS, I'd be sold. I would like a Taycan, but range, charging availability, and price seem to let it down in my opinion, but it is a great first attempt at an electric car for Porsche, and in Mamba Green it does look fantastic.

As many things that are wrong with Tesla, there are some things they've gotten right, like the 370 mile range of the Model S Long Range, Supercharging network, intuitive technology, and start of autonomous tech (autopilot).

Anyways, I may have went a bit off topic!
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