[Kidu]

MPE vs Dinan?? and what other options are out there?
MPE is about 1200 and Dinan is about 1500 bucks here in Denver.
I cant decide based on youtube videos.... I heard the Dinan and its LOUD but I havent heard the MPE in person.

on either one, does it go quiet when you are in Comfort?

Thanks in advance and sorry for the 'basic questions' ;-)

[kevinh211]

I have the Dinan exhaust. Ill give you a quick review.
Cold start ups are very loud, it sounds aggressive. If you leave for work early and don't want to wake up your family it may not be the best exhaust.
Warm start ups are moderate. Its almost to quite when the engine is warm and idling normal.
Drone is non existent. When cruising on the highway with the windows closed I don't hear the exhaust at all. When the windows are open there is a slight rumble.
Full and partial throttle sounds amazing, I got a lot of complements that they can't believe a BMW sounds this good.

If you are in comfort mode the car is very quite and livable. Sport mode completely changes the car and sounds mean as hell. Lots of pops and bangs out of the exhaust.

[bmw235iSD]

Originally Posted by Kidu

MPE vs Dinan?? and what other options are out there?
MPE is about 1200 and Dinan is about 1500 bucks here in Denver.
I cant decide based on youtube videos.... I heard the Dinan and its LOUD but I havent heard the MPE in person.

on either one, does it go quiet when you are in Comfort?

Thanks in advance and sorry for the 'basic questions' ;-)

I went for the AWE touring without midpipe, got it for 1191 plus 138 but that is with the optional black 102mm diamond tips. Sounds really nice!

[crbalch]

A few things based on experience:

1) I had AWE, but unfortunately returned it due to some droning between 2.5k-3k RPM. If you can deal with that, its definitely an amazing sounding exhaust.

2) Dinan is probably going to net you similar results as the MPE in terms of sound. I like the sound of the Dinan, but it doesn't provide a different enough exhaust note to warrant the $500 premium over the MPE (which brings me to my next point)

3) The MPE can be had from Sun Motor Cars for $790 shipped, without tips. Reuse your stock tips, or add in a few hundred for the M-Performance ones, your choice.

4) My ultimate recommendation: Go with the Fabspeed Sport Cat Downpipe. I recently had this installed and it provided the following:
- Very noticeable power increase, especially with regards to torque
- Noticeable sound increase (more burbles, deeper note)
- No CEL or bad smells that you get from a catless downpipe
- With installation, I was around $1150 all in (got a good deal when Fabspeed was running a promo, but they should work with you on the price)

My plan is to ultimately mate the MPE with my Fabspeed Sport Cat, but as of now the sound and power of just the DP is great.

Good luck!

[bmw235iSD]

Originally Posted by crbalch

A few things based on experience:

1) I had AWE, but unfortunately returned it due to some droning between 2.5k-3k RPM. If you can deal with that, its definitely an amazing sounding exhaust.

2) Dinan is probably going to net you similar results as the MPE in terms of sound. I like the sound of the Dinan, but it doesn't provide a different enough exhaust note to warrant the $500 premium over the MPE (which brings me to my next point)

3) The MPE can be had from Sun Motor Cars for $790 shipped, without tips. Reuse your stock tips, or add in a few hundred for the M-Performance ones, your choice.

4) My ultimate recommendation: Go with the Fabspeed Sport Cat Downpipe. I recently had this installed and it provided the following:
- Very noticeable power increase, especially with regards to torque
- Noticeable sound increase (more burbles, deeper note)
- No CEL or bad smells that you get from a catless downpipe
- With installation, I was around $1150 all in (got a good deal when Fabspeed was running a promo, but they should work with you on the price)

My plan is to ultimately mate the MPE with my Fabspeed Sport Cat, but as of now the sound and power of just the DP is great.

Good luck!

Little to not noticeable droning on my end, so maybe I lucked out. Planning to install the Fabspeed DP when it arrives =) should sound like a beast.

[Beartato]

Just have a local shop do a muffler delete, it'll do the same thing at a fraction of the cost. Can't vouch for any drone, but this is my plan once I find a shop/stop being lazy and actually call around.

[Kidu]

I am not sure about the muffler delete - I have no idea how that sounds plus the drone supposedly goes up. I need to hear one first.

As far the Fabspeed SportCat downpipe, if I were to get a Dinan exhaust as well, which one should I get first? also does the Sportcat downpipe mess with the BMW warranty?
Again, excuse my ignorance, trying to learn a lot of new stuff here! And Thank you for all your replies.

[louielouie]

Originally Posted by Kidu

I am not sure about the muffler delete - I have no idea how that sounds plus the drone supposedly goes up. I need to hear one first.

As far the Fabspeed SportCat downpipe, if I were to get a Dinan exhaust as well, which one should I get first? also does the Sportcat downpipe mess with the BMW warranty?
Again, excuse my ignorance, trying to learn a lot of new stuff here! And Thank you for all your replies.

Been contemplating the delete as well. Sounds amazing. This ones a forum members but I don't remember who. Most of them say there's no drone - I just need to get off my lazy butt and schedule it with a local shop.

[crbalch]

Originally Posted by Kidu

I am not sure about the muffler delete - I have no idea how that sounds plus the drone supposedly goes up. I need to hear one first.

As far the Fabspeed SportCat downpipe, if I were to get a Dinan exhaust as well, which one should I get first? also does the Sportcat downpipe mess with the BMW warranty?
Again, excuse my ignorance, trying to learn a lot of new stuff here! And Thank you for all your replies.

My dealer doesn't care about the downpipe. I would go downpipe first personally. You get some sound, but lots of good power. Go MPE or Dinan later on.

I would never do muffler delete because if my awe had drone it that 2-3k RPM range, I can guarantee the delete will too. I'll stick to MPE so as not to go down that path again.

[XutvJet]

Originally Posted by crbalch

3) The MPE can be had from Sun Motor Cars for $790 shipped, without tips. Reuse your stock tips, or add in a few hundred for the M-Performance ones, your choice.

I went this direction a few months ago. The sound is amazing: at idle, revving in neutral, part throttle, and full throttle. There's no drone. It maintains the exhaust valve thus full OEM operation as BMW intended. The sound is linear and has no rasp, hissing, or other questionable noises that some aftermarket exhausts can have. The popcorn "overrun" sound on neutral revs and letting off is very amusing even to me, a 42 y/o business professional. It sounds menacing and somewhat exotic. There's more turbo spool and wastegate sounds. It fits perfectly and installs very easily.

I couldn't fathom spending $1,500-2,500 on an exhaust like some guys do on this site.

[BentZero]

There's a dude on here that had a vid of his mpe with sport cat. sounds really good, but it's in a parking garage. I'm immediately sceptical of any growl I hear when the video is taken in a parking garage.

[Fabspeed Motorsport]

I love the setup on my personal M235i. I have it equipped with Fabspeed's Sport Cat Downpipe (first mod) and also our Muffler Bypass Exhaust. Check out the link below to the setup I'm running

[Thebush121]

I'm in the same boat. Now that I know VW is buying my golf back... I'll have money for mods and can't decide.

[MrBucket]

Originally Posted by crbalch

A few things based on experience:

1) I had AWE, but unfortunately returned it due to some droning between 2.5k-3k RPM. If you can deal with that, its definitely an amazing sounding exhaust.

2) Dinan is probably going to net you similar results as the MPE in terms of sound. I like the sound of the Dinan, but it doesn't provide a different enough exhaust note to warrant the $500 premium over the MPE (which brings me to my next point)

3) The MPE can be had from Sun Motor Cars for $790 shipped, without tips. Reuse your stock tips, or add in a few hundred for the M-Performance ones, your choice.

4) My ultimate recommendation: Go with the Fabspeed Sport Cat Downpipe. I recently had this installed and it provided the following:
- Very noticeable power increase, especially with regards to torque
- Noticeable sound increase (more burbles, deeper note)
- No CEL or bad smells that you get from a catless downpipe
- With installation, I was around $1150 all in (got a good deal when Fabspeed was running a promo, but they should work with you on the price)

My plan is to ultimately mate the MPE with my Fabspeed Sport Cat, but as of now the sound and power of just the DP is great.

Good luck!

Damn, Sun Motors has gone up by $140 since I purchased my M Performance Exhaust from them. Still quite nice at $790, but it was amazing for $650 shipped.

Also if you want to really help the sound get a cold air intake, I think it might have even done more for the sound vs the exhaust. With the stock intake you can't even hear that there is a turbo somewhere under the hood. With the BMS intake (I've had no issues now having run it for 2 years) it you can now hear the turbo spool up and sucking all that air in, plus when you let off the throttle you can hear either the wastegate or diverter valve making a whooshing noise as it bleeds off pressure.

With the M Performance exhaust and BMS intake the car finally sounds more like I think it should have from the factory, aka it sounds great.

[crbalch]

Originally Posted by MrBucket

Damn, Sun Motors has gone up by $140 since I purchased my M Performance Exhaust from them. Still quite nice at $790, but it was amazing for $650 shipped.

Also if you want to really help the sound get a cold air intake, I think it might have even done more for the sound vs the exhaust. With the stock intake you can't even hear that there is a turbo somewhere under the hood. With the BMS intake (I've had no issues now having run it for 2 years) it you can now hear the turbo spool up and sucking all that air in, plus when you let off the throttle you can hear either the wastegate or diverter valve making a whooshing noise as it bleeds off pressure.

With the M Performance exhaust and BMS intake the car finally sounds more like I think it should have from the factory, aka it sounds great.

I have a cold air intake! I love the sound right now but the three mods together will make for a beast...DP, Intake, MPE

[pikcachu]

Will a muffler delete sound the same as when you cut the stock exhaust and start the car before putting the MPE on ?

Is it even safe/ok to start the car with the muffler cut before you put the MPE on ?

[Drpoomanchu]

I have the Armytrix exhaust dual 2.5" exhaust runs from collector just downstream of the DP. My DP is an ER catless. Sounds amazing. No droning. I leave valve open 24/7 in comfort its quiet. In sport it lets the dogs bark..!

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[matthewcassity]

Correction, see below

[matthewcassity]

Mods - MPE Exhaust, ER Catless DP, Jb4+EW+FF

It gets compliments for days from all different people. Young, middle age & old.

Now here it is in Sport+ Mode

[Vortexginge]

Thanks for this thread.Trying to decide myself on a nice exhaust and was leaning to an MPE.You guys are so lucky everything is so cheap in the states
I was looking at a Milltek exhaust as well as I had heard they had a great sound
Should check them out if you can get em?

[psi_blades]

I bit the bullet and ordered the Dinan one since my local shop had a monthly special of free exhaust installs. Scheduled for next week.

[BentZero]

Originally Posted by psi_blades

I bit the bullet and ordered the Dinan one since my local shop had a monthly special of free exhaust installs. Scheduled for next week.

Nice. Please post a vid if you can. Not many out there for the dinan.