[hyperzulu]

Originally Posted by mmmmm235i

Well I guess you didn't get my point, but I'll address that. The effect on the resale value would probably be moot because someone interested in a tune is much more likely to have supporting mods or FBOs. Like someone else said its always smarter to return the car to stock when selling because even someone interested in modding would like to do it themselves to their taste and the dealer could care less in terms of resale value about what extra/performance parts you have even if they are OEM. My main point was that when you said you have to factor in supporting mods when considering the Dinan tune raising your estimated price to 4-5k, you seem to overlook that most people pushing their cars with the stage 2 jb4 would likely have the supporting mods as well or at least they should.

That makes sense now that you explained, but I still think from what I have seen of a Dinan flash on dynos is that you're paying quite a bit for what just a jb4 and e85 can do. You do the rest of the mods to extract more power, but I was just trying to compare apples to much smaller, but super expensive apples. With the jb4 you can, but don't have. If you value piece of mind at $4000+, rock on I would much rather get the LSD.

[BLK235iNJ]

Originally Posted by hyperzulu

That makes sense now that you explained, but I still think from what I have seen of a Dinan flash on dynos is that you're paying quite a bit for what just a jb4 and e85 can do. You do the rest of the mods to extract more power, but I was just trying to compare apples to much smaller, but super expensive apples. With the jb4 you can, but don't have. If you value piece of mind at $4000+, rock on I would much rather get the LSD.

Not to be a pain but can you itemize the components that make up 4k? 4k is not bad for a tune and supporting mods if that is the case.

m

[hyperzulu]

Originally Posted by BLK235iNJ

Not to be a pain but can you itemize the components that make up 4k? 4k is not bad for a tune and supporting mods if that is the case.

m

It's just a rough idea as the tune and other accessories are not available yet, but a Stg 2/3 flash should be $2k or more, an oil cooler might also be required at $1.5k, along with a FMIC at $1k and a free-flow exhaust for another $1k. That's $5,500-6,000 in parts alone, plus installation costs at a Dinan authorized location, which isn't cheap in itself. All in all, you're walking away with $8k in parts in labor.

[kerm1t]

Originally Posted by BLK235iNJ

Not to be a pain but can you itemize the components that make up 4k? 4k is not bad for a tune and supporting mods if that is the case.

m

if you can get it to stage 2 at 4k it MIGHT be ok but i doubt it at that cost (with dinan). but at stage1, doesn't matter how paranoid you are, thats a plain rip off.

even if you have money to dump, its just plain stupid imo to go that route.

[daisy16905]

2 1/2 pages of garbage fellas.........can we avoid the thread jacks please!!!!

[Delnari]

Dinan Software Upgrades are taking a slightly different path as you may have noticed on their site lately. They are now using a programmable module that that plugs inline with the ECU. Similiar to the Piggyback systems with the main difference being all the ECU subsystems can be reprogrammed without ever touching the main ECU code. This is very similiar to other devices on the market like the COBB AccessTuner, but with the main difference being the Dinan tuner has no customer interface and must be programmed by Dinan directly. COBB stopped making tuners for the newer BMW do mostly to the lockdown of the BMW ECU and not worth the engineering cost to develop a box such as Dinan's device.

By using an auxillary device for the ECU reprogramming the DME can be copied (flashed) to the auxillary device and changes made there. My hope is you can use the purchased tuner on your next BMW and save a little money by having it updated with the new model information. Haven't checked, but you might simply just need to disconnect the device to return back to stock programming. How new factory flashes get applied is a question, where as before the BMW dealer could copy and reload the Dinan software back on the ECU.

[Medik]

https://www.facebook.com/16692370751...type=1&theater

Getting closer to some product release!

[phoenixbmwlife]

Originally Posted by Medik

https://www.facebook.com/16692370751...type=1&theater

Getting closer to some product release!

What was the purpose of that link? It doesn't show any information about it.

[mjposner]

As someone who has used Dinan products in the past, I agree that they are higher cost and less power than other tunes. If my car was out of warranty I would have a different take, but the risk of warranty issue over a few more $$ for the tune and a few less hp is not a risk I personally want to take.

(I had a Stage 2 tune with intake, exhaust and throttle bodies on my 2000 M Roadster.)

The cost of the Power Package for a 135is is $2,878.20 and gets you 47 more hp and 65 lbs of torque. Does not include intake (perhaps not needed?)

[ska///235i]

Dinan M235i on instagram

[Johnnohoff]

some items are up...

http://dinancars.com/products/?serie...i-f22&mid=1183

[Medik]

So word is that stage 1 ecu dtronic will be available for order next Thursday:

Around 360 hp and 400 ft/lb peaking around 3k rpm (don't have exact numbers yet)

This should be priced at $2000

[F80_M]

See the way my bank account works is......

[ska///235i]

Originally Posted by Medik

So word is that stage 1 ecu dtronic will be available for order next Thursday:

Around 360 hp and 400 ft/lb (don't have exact numbers yet)

This should be priced at $2000

So just a tune/software flash
Or comes with better cooling???

If just a tune for $2k...Fuk you Dinan

[Medik]

Originally Posted by ska///235i

So just a tune/software flash
Or comes with better cooling???

If just a tune for $2k...Fuk you Dinan

Just tune...

[HX_Guy]

Originally Posted by Medik

Just tune...

Welll...you would get to put a Dinan license plate frame on your car too.

[phoenixbmwlife]

Originally Posted by Medik

So word is that stage 1 ecu dtronic will be available for order next Thursday:

Around 360 hp and 400 ft/lb peaking around 3k rpm (don't have exact numbers yet)

This should be priced at $2000

38HP for $2,000??? Wow! The Armytrix Exhaust gives an additional 25HP. I'd rather buy the exhaust and get less HP but better sound.

[ska///235i]

Originally Posted by Bennu

38HP for $2,000??? Wow! The Armytrix Exhaust gives an additional 25HP. I'd rather buy the exhaust and get less HP but better sound.

I know, wtf is dinan thinking
I know they are pricy but not $2000 pricier

[kerm1t]

back to the old discussion hahhaha yea dinan is making bank off yall

[BLK235iNJ]

I'm definitely going Dinan.

[alz0rz]

They use crank HP as the "Stock Horsepower" on the website.. if that is the baseline, then is the advertised 364 at crank also? If so.. that would translate to lower at the wheels even.

If it is roughly 364 to the wheels (keeping in mind that stock is roughly 300) that is a again of ~60hp+ which is not too bad...

[BLK235iNJ]

These are the specs on the website... not very clear
Torque looks great!

Max HP Gain 64
Max Torque Gain 77
Peak Horsepower 364
Peak Torque 407
Stock HP 320
Stock Torque 330
Included Notes D-TRONICS Performance Tuner, Dinan® wiring harness, Dinan Stage 1 softwareMax HP Gain 64

Originally Posted by alz0rz

They use crank HP as the "Stock Horsepower" on the website.. if that is the baseline, then is the advertised 364 at crank also? If so.. that would translate to lower at the wheels even.

If it is roughly 364 to the wheels (keeping in mind that stock is roughly 300) that is a again of ~60hp+ which is not too bad...