04-01-2016, 12:42 PM | #23 | |
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The first digit is the relative viscosity of the oil on startup, the second when it is hot. I'd just go with a BMW stamped oil under warranty and change it at regular intervals. Edit: Perhaps I was thinking about subarus with the ultra thin 0w20 oil, disregard my previous posts. |
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04-01-2016, 03:59 PM | #25 |
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oops, app double posted. :/
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04-13-2016, 04:48 PM | #26 |
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Anyone notice that for the 2016 M235, BMW is requiring 0W-30 vs 5W-30? OW-30 is arguably a more robust oil for a performance engine, but will impact MPGs slightly. I'm fine with that. Most performance cars in Europe run 0W-30, OW-40, or OW-50. 5W-30 spec oil is very much a US thing and used to boost MPGs. In turbo motors, you want a robust oil because turbos are very hard on oil, specifically heat.
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04-13-2016, 07:25 PM | #27 | |
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Going to 0W oil would be for mileage gains in the M235i like BMW did in switching from 10W60 in the M cars to 5W30 .IMHO |
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04-28-2016, 09:39 PM | #29 |
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My owners manual and the sticker under the hood specifies 0w30 for my 2016 M235. 5w30 is not found anywhere. Looks like BMW wised up.
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04-29-2016, 06:01 AM | #30 |
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My dealer (where I got my oil change done) at first said to use the 0w30, but they thought i had a M2. When they switched my info to M235i they said that it called for 5w30.
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05-24-2016, 02:44 PM | #31 |
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As does mine. Also, I will be doing a blackstone analysis and posting the results for those curious whether a 1,200 mile oil change is necessary. I'm not changing any of my other fluids (LSD on the mod list, want to break the tranny in more before a fluid change).
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05-27-2016, 11:50 PM | #32 | |
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The 1200 mile service is done on all the M-cars but the transmission fluid is not changes. Engine oil and rear axle fluid followed by de-activation of the run-in inspection service and a road test. It is very common to see the Oil from all the drive-line components be a nasty colour. this is due to the additives BMW places in them from factory to help parts seal properly and components to break in properly as well. Will usually see Rear diff fluid come out Dark grey. This is from the Diff oil mixing with the Paint markings they use when building the rear diffs from factory which is completely normal. So if you see nasty fluid coming out when you do your first service, this is completely normal. Me personally I change my engine oil myself Every 5000km. |
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05-27-2016, 11:54 PM | #33 |
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My dealer wasn't willing to do mine of course, I paid to have a oil change and SM waived the whole $12 labor charge lol
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05-28-2016, 12:14 AM | #34 | |
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Do you have any way to confirm the transmission fluid is not changed? For the 1M it was changed at 1200 miles and we have the exact same gearbox they did. If you look at older BMWs that started with this lifetime fluid BS, you see them grenade early or perform very poorly. Have you ever rebuilt an old transmission or examined one apart? I've looked at old 915 gearboxes and old transaxle boxes. There are a lot of pieces and a lot of parts that have to wear together since tolerances are very tight. Changing the fluid makes the most amount of sense. I have 20k miles on my F22 so far and my transmission shifts perfectly fine. Your mileage may vary but I still take Mike Millers advice and change the transmission fluid. I plan on keeping the car for a long time and putting 200k miles on it, I guess time will tell if the box remains in good health. I guess the only way to settle this would be an oil analysis sent to Blackstone labs. List of fluids for the 1 M break in service: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=594265 Edit: Guess they don't do the transmission oil service anymore: http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1007985 |
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05-28-2016, 12:24 AM | #35 |
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I am not Saying Do not change your transmission Fluid.
I was just saying We as techs in North America do Not change it on the 2000KM service on any M-car. I personally believe Changing your Fluid Much earlir is nothing but good for the vehicle. Especially with Engine Oil regarding the N55/N54 Cylinder heads! I have Not seen inside any of the newer BMW transmission when they fail, simply because BMW or the Dealer I work for. does not pay me to take it apart and inspect unless advised from BMW them self, which pretty much never happens (and if it did, it would most likely go to the master tech in the shop). If the vehicle is under warranty, they say remove it and send it back to Germany for inspection and they send us a new one to install and program. |
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Also Regarding the 1200mile/2000km run in service...
This is the PUMA measure put out from BMW regarding what is done on the Service for the M2,M3, and M4 vehicles. Same thing apply s to the X5/X6M vehicles as well just with 9.5L of engine oil. Measure The following tasks must be performed during the 2000 km running-in check: Engine oil change. Engine oil filling capacity and quality: Engine oil filling capacity with oil filter element = 6.5 l Oil quantity in the oil sump = 6.0 l Oil quantity in the oil filter element = 0.5 l Engine oil quality: 0W-30 or 5W-30 Transmission oil change - NO -. The oil in the manual gearbox (HG) and in the double-clutch gearbox (DKG) does N O T need to be replaced; both gearbox types are filled "for life". Rear axle differential oil change. The oil fill quantity in the rear axle differential is 1.0 litre. The F8x (M2/3/4) is equipped with the same electronically controlled rear axle differential as the F1x, F06 (M5/6). Therefore the same differential oil is used as for the F1x, F06 , (M5/6). Rear axle differential oil quality: Trade name -> BMW part number -> container BMW axle differential oil, synthetic MSP/A -> 83 22 2 365 988 -> 1 l bottle BMW axle differential oil, synthetic MSP/A -> 83 22 9 407 870 -> 60 l drum BMW axle differential oil, synthetic MSP/A -> 83 22 9 407 871 -> 208 l drum Attention: Filling of the rear axle differential with the known "booster" oil from E9x M3 leads to a decline in the performance of the complete system and should be avoided. Check the coolant level in the expansion tank for the charge-air cooler and, if necessary, fill it up to the MAX mark. Reset CBS display "Running-in check": => The running-in check MUST be deactivated using the diagnosis system. (system function: Reset CBS -> DEACTIVATE RUNNING-IN CHECK) ATTENTION: DO NOT RESET THE CBS DISPLAY "ENGINE OIL"! For F8x (M2/3/4) models such as the F10 (M5) from 07/2013 as well as F06, F12, F13 (M6) from 03/2014 the maintenance work should be transferred into the electronic service booklet. |
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if I don't have the know-how to do this myself, has anyone ever gotten a quote as to how much a dealer would charge for this service?
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11-07-2016, 01:50 PM | #38 |
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Is the 'special oil filter wrench' the fairly standard type that fits a standard filter housing end? I have one that looks like the photo in the link from EEBreh, but haven't counted the 'faces' and DK details for what they sell specific for the BMW. I'm thinking of doing this myself, at least for the 'mid-point' 7500mile changes. My dealer was quite willing to do it early, but at a fairly high cost for just an oil/filter change (I didn't change the diff, and I have an AT).
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And Shell is also featured in most BMW commercials. Default petrol station in connected drive navigation as well (insert creepy X-Files music.)
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