bootmod3 flash tune platform - announcement

[sA x sKy]

Told you guys proper flash tuning is here

[AM4ZING]

Originally Posted by sA x sKy

Told you guys proper flash tuning is here

Did you dyno your car

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by sA x sKy

Told you guys proper flash tuning is here

Almost. Wont be proper til the ECU stays in the car the whole time. This is the best it gets minus that though!

[proTUNING Freaks]

Originally Posted by dmk08

Almost. Wont be proper til the ECU stays in the car the whole time. This is the best it gets minus that though!

If/when that 'convenience' feature gets figured out we'll bundle it in but until then we want to have fun out there Minor hassle to unlock the DME is really nothing.

In terms of proper tuning, its really just the one that make both the driver and motor happy at the end of the day. Having been in the tuning business for quite some time we strongly believe that no single tune, canned tune, or approach can be 'best' for everyone in every possible situation.

Having ability to switch maps, monitor, datalog, go back to stock and custom calibrate if you wish to do so to get the most out of your car is what we want from our own personal cars and we won't have it any other way. If you can't make the post power for what you need you can't be happy, if you can't datalog/monitor you can't make your motor happy.

[Bluesun]

I think this is what would finally get me to pull the trigger on upgraded turbos. Well done guys, truly. Very excited to see what gets done with this.

[proTUNING Freaks]

Originally Posted by Bluesun

I think this is what would finally get me to pull the trigger on upgraded turbos. Well done guys, truly. Very excited to see what gets done with this.

[A418t81]

Excellent work Dzenan. I'm intrigued enough that it might be time to start looking for another M for a DD

[///F80M3]

Originally Posted by dmk08

Almost. Wont be proper til the ECU stays in the car the whole time. This is the best it gets minus that though!

Whoever does that will make a shit load of money!!

[proTUNING Freaks]

Originally Posted by A418t81

Excellent work Dzenan. I'm intrigued enough that it might be time to start looking for another M for a DD

Thanks Greyson!

[TruthGuY]

Originally Posted by proTUNING Freaks

Thanks Greyson!

Guys still waiting on a time frame or even pricing

[Anthony235]

A question. Sorry if they have already been addressed.

Car is m235.

Is there any benefit to running a jb4 stack on top of bootmod3?

I know there is on other flash tunes (logging, map 6 custom maps, dash controls, etc). It does seem like bootmod3 does all of this though, correct?

[Anthony235]

Also what happens with the checksum log and flash counter when putting the stock flash back on?

Thanks.

[proTUNING Freaks]

Originally Posted by Anthony235

A question. Sorry if they have already been addressed.

Car is m235.

Is there any benefit to running a jb4 stack on top of bootmod3?

I know there is on other flash tunes (logging, map 6 custom maps, dash controls, etc). It does seem like bootmod3 does all of this though, correct?

You get to switch the maps by flashing the DME so its a pull over engine off type of deal and it takes about a minute for a map flash via the app. Unless you're changing octane there's really no need to change boost maps but if you like that or any other feature of the JB4 or any other external system (AIC for PI, Aquamist HFS-4 for meth, etc) you're more than welcome to run them provided you know what you're doing

Originally Posted by Anthony235

Also what happens with the checksum log and flash counter when putting the stock flash back on?

Thanks.

Assuming warranty is your concern you should believe that your dealer or BMW service department can always find a trace of modifications to the car including a flash tune or a piggyback and its entirely up to them what they'll do, just like when you walk in for service with dowpipes or an intake bootmod3 just as other mods can void your powertrain warranty.

bootmod3 provides for the ability to flash back to stock performance (stock calibration originally read from the car at the time of unlock).

[Anthony235]

Originally Posted by proTUNING Freaks

You get to switch the maps by flashing the DME so its a pull over engine off type of deal and it takes about a minute for a map flash via the app. Unless you're changing octane there's really no need to change boost maps but if you like that or any other feature of the JB4 or any other external system (AIC for PI, Aquamist HFS-4 for meth, etc) you're more than welcome to run them provided you know what you're doing



Assuming warranty is your concern you should believe that your dealer or BMW service department can always find a trace of modifications to the car including a flash tune or a piggyback and its entirely up to them what they'll do, just like when you walk in for service with dowpipes or an intake bootmod3 just as other mods can void your powertrain warranty.

bootmod3 provides for the ability to flash back to stock performance (stock calibration originally read from the car at the time of unlock).

Great, thank you for the honest answers and not beating around the bush about the warranty. Most tuners will just say "you can flash back to stock".

I do tend to switch between an e35 mix and 100oct on a fairly regular basis. I assume you'll have maps for those in additional to 91/93 pump maps...?

If the ethonal/race gas maps aren't immediately available the best thing would be to run your 91oct map and then stack jb4 custom maps for other fuel mixes, correct?

No port injection or methanol integration with BM3?

Thanks again.

[proTUNING Freaks]

Originally Posted by Anthony235

Great, thank you for the honest answers and not beating around the bush about the warranty. Most tuners will just say "you can flash back to stock".

I do tend to switch between an e35 mix and 100oct on a fairly regular basis. I assume you'll have maps for those in additional to 91/93 pump maps...?

If the ethonal/race gas maps aren't immediately available the best thing would be to run your 91oct map and then stack jb4 custom maps for other fuel mixes, correct?

No port injection or methanol integration with BM3?

Thanks again.

As for the flash, you can indeed go back fully to stock/original programming but you'd need to get the DME on the bench. That'd set it back fully 100% back to how it was before software was changed. That isn't to say other modules in the car didn't register something funny to set a flag somewhere or that they wouldn't be able to tell the DME case was opened for flashing Its a risk just like any mod and we'll never beat around the bush on that, end of story.

To start we'll have stage 1 and 2 91/93 octane maps and very possibly a blend of ethanol which we're also testing. There is a large number of software versions out there for these cars and depending on how well we can automate the OTS map generation process you can expect others as well down the road. At the moment the process is a manual one but we're working constantly on automating these things. You always have the possibility of working with a tuner to make you a custom map for what you need including a flash to run with your piggyback. Pump gas OTS maps won't be ideal to be stacked for ethanol as you'll very quickly max out fuel trims as ethanol requires roughly 30% more fuel than gasoline.

We'll eventually be looking into meth integration natively on this car possibly by using an Aquamist kit/components. No promises there and if we had to say anything it probably won't be possible but we'll see when we get there.

For port injection there are a ton of options. You can run the AIC fuel controller that we typically run on the N54s and have it run on its own or wire it into the JB4. You could also use a standalone such as the AEM EMS-4 or a Haltech which has also been done on the N54s on some cars.

When it comes to cars we like keeping things simple, or better said, only as complicated as they really need to be. Where that magic spot is though takes years of experience and headache with a given platform and this platform is VERY young still.

[Anthony235]

Originally Posted by proTUNING Freaks

As for the flash, you can indeed go back fully to stock/original programming but you'd need to get the DME on the bench. That'd set it back fully 100% back to how it was before software was changed. That isn't to say other modules in the car didn't register something funny to set a flag somewhere or that they wouldn't be able to tell the DME case was opened for flashing Its a risk just like any mod and we'll never beat around the bush on that, end of story.

To start we'll have stage 1 and 2 91/93 octane maps and very possibly a blend of ethanol which we're also testing. There is a large number of software versions out there for these cars and depending on how well we can automate the OTS map generation process you can expect others as well down the road. At the moment the process is a manual one but we're working constantly on automating these things. You always have the possibility of working with a tuner to make you a custom map for what you need including a flash to run with your piggyback. Pump gas OTS maps won't be ideal to be stacked for ethanol as you'll very quickly max out fuel trims as ethanol requires roughly 30% more fuel than gasoline.

We'll eventually be looking into meth integration natively on this car possibly by using an Aquamist kit/components. No promises there and if we had to say anything it probably won't be possible but we'll see when we get there.

For port injection there are a ton of options. You can run the AIC fuel controller that we typically run on the N54s and have it run on its own or wire it into the JB4. You could also use a standalone such as the AEM EMS-4 or a Haltech which has also been done on the N54s on some cars.

When it comes to cars we like keeping things simple, or better said, only as complicated as they really need to be. Where that magic spot is though takes years of experience and headache with a given platform and this platform is VERY young still.

Makes sense about stacking a jb4 ethonal map on top of your 91 map. I didn't think about that. Don't want my pumps to crash.

I've already come across that issue with my friends M2.

I've been helping my buddy tune his new M2 with JB4. It's seems the M2 DME is doing something different when compared to my m235 with the same fuel hardware (I checked all the part #'s on realOEM). His car tends to run a full point richer at redline and is able to run considerably more boost on pump gas. Because of this his logs (fuel pump pressures) show that his m2 from the factory has very little headroom when adding E.

Maybe you will come across the difference in the m2 DME during your testing and other n55 cars can take advantage of it.

Anyways thanks for the info PTF. I'll be paying attention to your developments.

[tom @ eas]

Originally Posted by proTUNING Freaks

As for the flash, you can indeed go back fully to stock/original programming but you'd need to get the DME on the bench. That'd set it back fully 100% back to how it was before software was changed. That isn't to say other modules in the car didn't register something funny to set a flag somewhere or that they wouldn't be able to tell the DME case was opened for flashing Its a risk just like any mod and we'll never beat around the bush on that, end of story.

Professional tool such as autologic would flash back to stock without DME removal, we have done this to verify on other flashes.

However, the DME would need to be pulled in order to unlock again.

[Anthony235]

Originally Posted by proTUNING Freaks

As for the flash, you can indeed go back fully to stock/original programming but you'd need to get the DME on the bench. That'd set it back fully 100% back to how it was before software was changed. That isn't to say other modules in the car didn't register something funny to set a flag somewhere or that they wouldn't be able to tell the DME case was opened for flashing Its a risk just like any mod and we'll never beat around the bush on that, end of story.

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Professional tool such as autologic would flash back to stock without DME removal, we have done this to verify on other flashes.

However, the DME would need to be pulled in order to unlock again.

Very good info that I haven't read elsewhere. Thank you.

Is there a tamper proof seal, or similar, on the DME?

[proTUNING Freaks]

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Professional tool such as autologic would flash back to stock without DME removal, we have done this to verify on other flashes.

However, the DME would need to be pulled in order to unlock again.

Autologic, you mean the crappy version of ISTA?

Many tools can flash the DME back to factory programming including bootmod3 but like all others the devil's in the details

Once again, you can't fully 100% reset the DME back to factory, to exactly how it was originally, without getting the DME on the bench and using the original readout file. Trust us. We've built this bootmod3 flashing from the ground up and tools including Autologic are all at our disposal.

Lastly, bootmod3 will do the exact same level of 'revert to factory with lock back on' as Autologic, ISTA or any other tool out there along with 'revert to stock without reverting unlock'.

Advice, use ISTA

[Anthony235]

PTF, what about the seal around the DME? Are you, or one of your dealers, able to reapply the seal after opening up the DME?

Thanks again.

[proTUNING Freaks]

Originally Posted by Anthony235

PTF, what about the seal around the DME? Are you, or one of your dealers, able to reapply the seal after opening up the DME?

Thanks again.

Yes of course, always. DME must be sealed off to protect from the elements. Unfortunately some shops, quite a 'big' name in this business, didn't do that for this local beta customer that is converting to bootmod3 with his 435i:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BJD9gi-j...rotuningfreaks

They just cut the silicone seal, lifted the lid and after flashing put it back on it takes literally no time to reapply unless they 'ran out' of silicone LOL unbelievable..

[CaryTheLabelGuy]

Originally Posted by proTUNING Freaks

Yes of course, always. DME must be sealed off to protect from the elements. Unfortunately some shops, quite a 'big' name in this business, didn't do that for this local beta customer that is converting to bootmod3 with his 435i:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BJD9gi-j...rotuningfreaks

They just cut the silicone seal, lifted the lid and after flashing put it back on it takes literally no time to reapply unless they 'ran out' of silicone LOL unbelievable..

This doesn't surprise me. I bet I could guess who the "big shop" was.