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      07-04-2019, 11:25 PM   #23
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BMW is no longer the ultimate driving machine, that's for sure. I see no reason to settle for an expensive FWD hatch. Too many choices out there, and suddenly, Audi with its Quattro setting looks already better. Sour conclusion but that's the truth.
The BMW 1 Series is no longer an ultimate driving machine, that's for sure. Not all others (yet).
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      07-05-2019, 08:27 AM   #24
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With the fanatic sales and interest that the 2 series has captured, not only from loyal and ole time BMW fans that prefer the older BMWs, but many, many new generation fans, it would be absolutely foolish, might I even add moronic to make the new 2 series in FWD.

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      07-05-2019, 09:50 AM   #25
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So I assume a detuned S58 with a ZF slush box is on the horizon for the G87 M2. How exciting.
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      07-05-2019, 10:29 AM   #26
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"Next Gen BMW 2 Series Coupe Will Retain RWD Says BMW Chief Engineer"

We've known this for a while now (courtesy of resident product info guru yngulgyn), but BMW’s chief engineer Klaus Fröhlich has now confirmed that the next generation 2 Series Coupe will be RWD.

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This will not apply to the upcoming 2 Series Gran Coupe however, as we already know that it rides on BMW's UKL (FWD/AWD) platform.
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BMW bosses suggest that, unlike the new 1 Series, the upcoming 2 Series Gran Coupe will sport a rear-wheel drive platform

It has been several months since BMW teased us with a shadowy image of the new 2 Series Gran Coupe, but now more details about the compact saloon have emerged. A recent interview with BMW’s chief engineer Klaus Fröhlich suggests that, contrary to previous suggestions, the new model might keep a rear-wheel drive layout.
Also, what's this about? From the article too:

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The 2 Series Gran Coupe will be an entirely new model for BMW, taking the place of the previous two-door model and forming part of its growing ‘Gran Coupe’ family.
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      07-05-2019, 11:05 AM   #27
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To me it sounds like AutoExpress is confused and interpreted the "we will have RWD from 2er to the X7" quote from Fröhlich to include the 2GC.

Or rather, it sounds like they didn't know the next 2 coupe will (i) still be around and (ii) retain RWD and just assumed Fröhlich must be talking about the 2GC because why not?
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      07-05-2019, 11:31 AM   #28
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To me it sounds like AutoExpress is confused and interpreted the "we will have RWD from 2er to the X7" quote from Fröhlich to include the 2GC.

Or rather, it sounds like they didn't know the next 2 coupe will (i) still be around and (ii) retain RWD and just assumed Fröhlich must be talking about the 2GC because why not?
That’s exactly my interpretation. Unfortunately the G42/F44 2 Series being split between two platforms has created a lot of confusion across the automotive media. If someone has a link to an article that reports on Fröhlich‘s comment without adding inaccurate commentary to accompany it, please share.
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That’s exactly my interpretation. Unfortunately the G42/F44 2 Series being split between two platforms has created a lot of confusion across the automotive media. If someone has a link to an article that reports on Fröhlich‘s comment without adding inaccurate commentary to accompany it, please share.
Well those quotes I commented on were from the article in the top post (which only quoted the very narrow "RWD from 2er to X7").

Not sure there is some background material / transcript of what he actually said around.
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      07-05-2019, 12:41 PM   #30
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Well those quotes I commented on were from the article in the top post (which only quoted the very narrow "RWD from 2er to X7").

Not sure there is some background material / transcript of what he actually said around.
The nuance of his quote - “2 successor” - makes the context clear. That word rules out any possibility that the reference could be to the 2 Gran Coupe, since it is not a successor to an existing model - it is a new addition to the lineup. He is therefore referring to the 2 Series Coupe. Incidentally, we can also rule out the 2 Series AT, GT, and Convertible since all of those will die once the current generation models end production.
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      07-05-2019, 04:42 PM   #31
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More incentive to keep the older 1 series cars.
Will be a classic some day!
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It's sad to consider BMW is killing the 2er Convertible.

Super sad because the 4er is too large for my taste.

No way the Z4 will make up the loss in sales.
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      07-05-2019, 08:34 PM   #33
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      07-07-2019, 04:29 AM   #34
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Lets just hope the next 2 Series Coupe and M2 will have a shorter wheelbase so it’s a more nimble car to drive. They should also concentrate on less weight, not more power. We don’t need 400hp+ if they can keep the weight down. My M2C is a pig compared to my former 1M. There are other M products for those who want lots of power. Lets keep the M2 a pure drivers car!
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Smaller car as next generation, I say very unlikely...
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If it’s heavier and has a longer wheelbase than the current generation, I’d rather buy a Supra or 718 GT4.
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      07-09-2019, 05:12 AM   #37
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Dimensionally probably no smaller would be my guess.

If they can get the weight down (see F10 vs G30 5 Series - bigger but lighter) then it would be good enough for me.
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Thank you Klaus! Really, thank you!! Please fire the person who bastardised the new 1 series M135i with a fwd platform & 4 cylinder motor.
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