[lixiang7349]

Assuming cost is not an issue what’s the best intake/downpipe/ecu tune combo there is? I’ll need cat.
What hp can I expect out of them?

[marcthedark]

Any you want. Open <> closed intakes vary in sound more than in gains
Tune BM3 <> MHD <> all have reliable OTS tunes
DP > depends on how much you want to spend as between cat less the $ difference is probably more for fit&finish as the gains should be comparable

YOU define what best is "best price" "best noise" "best gains" "best customer servioce" will all get you different results

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by lixiang7349

Assuming cost is not an issue what’s the best intake/downpipe/ecu tune combo there is? I’ll need cat.
What hp can I expect out of them?

Its impossible to answer your questions with the given info.
Best in terms of what?


Example

Intakes will give you the same performance.
Open intakes are loud, closed intakes are quieter.
As for the look, it's a personal preference.

[lixiang7349]

Best in terms of most hp gain.

[lixiang7349]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Its impossible to answer your questions with the given info.
Best in terms of what?


Example

Intakes will give you the same performance.
Open intakes are loud, closed intakes are quieter.
As for the look, it's a personal preference.

Best in terms of most hp gain, build/finish quality. Loudness is okay.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by lixiang7349

Best in terms of most hp gain, build/finish quality. Loudness is okay.

An answer to this question will require pages and I'm not sure we can get to a conclusion.

For example, I don't know if there is a way to tell whether Wagner or Evolution Racewerks have better build. Both are top-notch, etc...

I suggest you do some reading on the forums and pick the ones you like most

[lixiang7349]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

An answer to this question will require pages and I'm not sure we can get to a conclusion.

For example, I don't know if there is a way to tell whether Wagner or Evolution Racewerks have better build. Both are top-notch, etc...

I suggest you do some reading on the forums and pick the ones you like most

What’s the triple combo are you talking about?
I’m looking for which 3 works best together.

[BimBimM2]

Originally Posted by lixiang7349

What's the triple combo are you talking about?
I'm looking for which 3 works best together.

Originally Posted by lixiang7349

What's the triple combo are you talking about?
I'm looking for which 3 works best together.

Hey OP, people on this forum love to over complicate their options. Quite honestly, your question isn't as difficult as it is being made to sound. The key to "best combo" is simple: you have to pay to play. Since money is no problem here is what I would recommend:

- if you want to avoid the bullshit hassle of CELs and and don't want to go cat-less, get a FabSpeed Sport Cat DP (~$1600.00). Bulked proof build quality and built to pass strict European emissions standards. Built by HJS.

- if you want to go cat-less, then you are in the loud-ass trashy territory and I can't help you. I really don't understand the attraction with smelly trashy-loud cat-less dps. I really don't. These offer minimal, approx ~10% more power, over the sport-cats mentioned above.

- as for the tune, the platform doesn't really matter actually because, again, if money is no option you will be getting a custom tune anyway, no matter which platform you use. You will hear a new platform name everyday, but the tried and true Bootmod3 will never let you down with its app interfaces and its user experience. Once you have BM3, get someone like Cary Jordan to do the custom tune for you. Spend money get a fantastic tune. However given how much Jordan is in demand, it might be difficult to have him do a custom tune for you.

- you May also want to spend money on a transmission flash, but that's dependent upon your goals.

- Don't bother with intakes. But if you do, Dinan makes an expensive ass CF cold air intake. Top notch stuff.

- if you are upgrading turbos, look into Vargas Turbo Tech B58 upgrade option (with Cary Jordan tune) or that Pure 800 Turbo upgrade by Pure Turbos.

- however before you do turbos, upgrade your HPFP. You can get the Supra A90 HPFP orrrr, go big money, and get the Dorsch (sp?) Engineering Stage 2 HPFP for B58. I would go with the latter.

This is pretty much top notch stuff.

[lixiang7349]

Originally Posted by BimBimM2

Hey OP, people on this forum love to over complicate their options. Quite honestly, your question isn't as difficult as it is being made to sound. The key to "best combo" is simple: you have to pay to play. Since money is no problem here is what I would recommend:

- if you want to avoid the bullshit hassle of CELs and and don't want to go cat-less, get a FabSpeed Sport Cat DP (~$1600.00). Bulked proof build quality and built to pass strict European emissions standards. Built by HJS.

- if you want to go cat-less, then you are in the loud-ass trashy territory and I can't help you. I really don't understand the attraction with smelly trashy-loud cat-less dps. I really don't. These offer minimal, approx ~10% more power, over the sport-cats mentioned above.

- as for the tune, the platform doesn't really matter actually because, again, if money is no option you will be getting a custom tune anyway, no matter which platform you use. You will hear a new platform name everyday, but the tried and true Bootmod3 will never let you down with its app interfaces and its user experience. Once you have BM3, get someone like Cary Jordan to do the custom tune for you. Spend money get a fantastic tune. However given how much Jordan is in demand, it might be difficult to have him do a custom tune for you.

- you May also want to spend money on a transmission flash, but that's dependent upon your goals.

- Don't bother with intakes. But if you do, Dinan makes an expensive ass CF cold air intake. Top notch stuff.

- if you are upgrading turbos, look into Vargas Turbo Tech B58 upgrade option (with Cary Jordan tune) or that Pure 800 Turbo upgrade by Pure Turbos.

- however before you do turbos, upgrade your HPFP. You can get the Supra A90 HPFP orrrr, go big money, and get the Dorsch (sp?) Engineering Stage 2 HPFP for B58. I would go with the latter.

This is pretty much top notch stuff.

Hi BimBimM2,
Thank you for taking the time to type up your detailed reply. I really appreciate it.
"Don't bother with intakes" by that you mean the gain is minimum?
The turbo upgrade is something I'm not sure of. I know I want it but I don't know how long the stock transmission (or whatever else that may brake) will last with that kind of power/tq.
I have heard of transmission tune but don't know how it works in detail. Does it do anything else other than changing the rpm shift point?
I'm shooting for the power level as reported in this article:
https://www.motor1.com/news/170040/b...rgring-record/

[dradernh]

Originally Posted by lixiang7349

I'm shooting for the power level as reported in this article:
https://www.motor1.com/news/170040/b...rgring-record/

Have you determined how you will put the power on the ground?

[WolfGTI]

This topic hurts my head. Op seems not to want to do research or listen to what is being said.

[marcthedark]

Just google Tom Wrigley M240 you get forum posts, YouTube..... including his 710BHP video
If you want to spend $10-20k research do not listed to what random people post

[lixiang7349]

Originally Posted by dradernh

Have you determined how you will put the power on the ground?

Jrz suspension-Yet to do.
Forged wheels and mps4s tires- Done.

[lixiang7349]

Originally Posted by marcthedark

Just google Tom Wrigley M240 you get forum posts, YouTube..... including his 710BHP video
If you want to spend $10-20k research do not listed to what random people post

Thank you for the pointer!

[dradernh]

Originally Posted by lixiang7349

mps4s tires

How wide of a tire do you think you'll be able to fit? The reason I ask is that it takes a very wide tire to be able to use so much horsepower.

Have you considered going with an OEM widebody kit like the one that BMW offers for the M235i: https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-389863-f22-m235ir-conversion-parts/? pdk=AQIAAQEBAQABAQEBAQEBAQEBAQI? With that kit, you'd have a much greater deal of flexibility when it comes to mounting rubber that will allow you to use the amount of horsepower you're contemplating.

This member's forum post has photos showing what the kit looks like on the car: https://www.2addicts.com/forums/show....php?t=1607481. He's done a spectacular job of building his car out, although in his case he didn't think it was necessary to add more power.

Whatever you end up deciding to do, good luck with it!

[lixiang7349]

Originally Posted by dradernh

How wide of a tire do you think you'll be able to fit? The reason I ask is that it takes a very wide tire to be able to use so much horsepower.

Have you considered going with an OEM widebody kit like the one that BMW offers for the M235i: https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-389863-f22-m235ir-conversion-parts/? pdk=AQIAAQEBAQABAQEBAQEBAQEBAQI? With that kit, you'd have a much greater deal of flexibility when it comes to mounting rubber that will allow you to use the amount of horsepower you're contemplating.

This member's forum post has photos showing what the kit looks like on the car: https://www.2addicts.com/forums/show....php?t=1607481. He's done a spectacular job of building his car out, although in his case he didn't think it was necessary to add more power.

Whatever you end up deciding to do, good luck with it!

I’m currently running 235/40 square. Not a fan of wide body kit. Doesn’t look good and adds weight. Thanks for the info!

[MrShowOff]

My 2017 M240i Xdrive has the Dinan Stage 1 Tune, Dinan CAI, Dinan High Flow Exhaust and the Dinan Mid Pipe.
I'm really considering adding a Downpipe. Not going catless...don't want the smell or the CEL!
Not gonna go cheap but I'm not gonna spend $3000.
It already sounds great so a little louder is just a plus.
I want more performance, power, Hp and torque!
I'm leaning toward the 200 CEL option. What kind of Hp and torque increase can I expect? What are your thoughts?

[Oldbay]

Originally Posted by lixiang7349

I’m currently running 235/40 square. Not a fan of wide body kit. Doesn’t look good and adds weight. Thanks for the info!

Hey man...I agree. But just one note: adding maybe 20-30 more HP might be okay, but unless you are planning on moving to a fatter tire I think you're going to have big problems trying to put the power down. You could be breaking the back-end loose pretty easily. That is why so many guys crash Mustang GTs. So many of them lose the back-end in corners. In many respects they are overpowered for the tires that come on them. You could potentially run into the same issue if you start tacking on big HP gains. It might not be worth it to go too far overboard.

Good luck!

[kriszty]

Originally Posted by MrShowOff

My 2017 M240i Xdrive has the Dinan Stage 1 Tune, Dinan CAI, Dinan High Flow Exhaust and the Dinan Mid Pipe.
I'm really considering adding a Downpipe. Not going catless...don't want the smell or the CEL!
Not gonna go cheap but I'm not gonna spend $3000.
It already sounds great so a little louder is just a plus.
I want more performance, power, Hp and torque!
I'm leaning toward the 200 CEL option. What kind of Hp and torque increase can I expect? What are your thoughts?

i have the Wagner 200cell Downpipe, soundwise this is a great sound improvement ( even not too load ) improvement in HP , i thought almost every downpipe it, in the range from 20hp or more. but the most benefit is that with a dowpipe the turbo is less restricted... With the wagner i do not smell the exhaust gas. a Cel it gives, but you need a tune with the DP , otherwise choose the 300 cel

[lixiang7349]

Originally Posted by Oldbay

Hey man...I agree. But just one note: adding maybe 20-30 more HP might be okay, but unless you are planning on moving to a fatter tire I think you're going to have big problems trying to put the power down. You could be breaking the back-end loose pretty easily. That is why so many guys crash Mustang GTs. So many of them lose the back-end in corners. In many respects they are overpowered for the tires that come on them. You could potentially run into the same issue if you start tacking on big HP gains. It might not be worth it to go too far overboard.

Good luck!

Mine is stage 1 390 wheel. I think 235s are doing just fine. And I have awd. Never had that issue ever. Unless in the rain.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by kriszty

i have the Wagner 200cell Downpipe, soundwise this is a great sound improvement ( even not too load ) improvement in HP , i thought almost every downpipe it, in the range from 20hp or more. but the most benefit is that with a dowpipe the turbo is less restricted... With the wagner i do not smell the exhaust gas. a Cel it gives, but you need a tune with the DP , otherwise choose the 300 cel

[dradernh]

Originally Posted by lixiang7349

Mine is stage 1 390 wheel. I think 235s are doing just fine. And I have awd. Never had that issue ever. Unless in the rain.

Lean on the car harder. It will get quite a bit more exciting and with no rain required. Trust me on this one now!